cheesycow Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Alright, in order to put something tangible into the hatred that is felt towards me...i'm going to bet the billikens.com message board that the Tigers will have a better season than the Billikens this year. The terms of the bet can be determined later...any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I'm in as long as I get to detrmine what is better Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 i was thinking we could agree on a point system. +1 points for every win OOC +2 points for every win in conference -.5 points for every loss 10 points for NIT 20 points for NCAA i'm open to discussion, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 +2 points for every game played outside the state of Missouri and you have a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Look ... everyone here knows that I am an honest and fair person ... for pete's sake I am a used car dealer. I say we bet $50,000.00. I will decide at the end of the season which team had the better year. If I decide Mizzou had the better year all the posters on Billikens.com will chip in and we will pay you the $50,000.00. If I decide the Bills had the better year ... you pay us the $50,000.00 and we will split it up evenly. I am not even asking for an extra share ... to demonstrate how absolutely fair I am ... I am donating my services as judge. I am even willing to give you 2-1 odds ... if you win I will personally pay the 2nd $50,000.00 I am going to go ahead and assume that this bet is on as I can't imagine you would be foolish enough to waste an opportunity like this. Your response or non response to this post will act as acceptance of the wager. Good Luck to you cheesy ... may the best team win Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted October 15, 2004 Author Share Posted October 15, 2004 what's the purpose of that? just curious...does one team play a disproportionate amount of games in missouri? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 I just wish Mizzou would play SLU. I am a fan of both teams and it really bugs me that Mizzou won't let a real rivalry get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 Oh, they'll let it get started and when the games are too close for comfort or they lose, well, it's sayonora sailor....We ain't risking our national ranking and in state status as the premier big time program against a bunch of Mackeral Snappers. Why risk losing to SLU when you can lose to a powerhouse like Belmont? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 what is lyao? Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Laugh your a_s off. Great post. I guess he accepted....he didn't respond. mhg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted October 16, 2004 Author Share Posted October 16, 2004 i didn't think it was worth responding to. I think what i'm proposing could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I wondered how long it would be before you stated your claim of being fans of both teams. When I first saw your post, I debated whether to even open it. I about ready to be floored thinking that you would be starting a post about the Billikens upcoming season when I saw the subject of your post. But, as soon as I read, it was more of the same. I will bet you, Cheesy. If the Billikens win more than 2 games this season, you have to leave this board forever! If they go 0 and ? or 1 and ?, or 2 and ?, then you can stay around till next May and then you have to go away forever. Or, how about this bet: If Mizzou loses more than 2 games the whole season, you have to go away from this board forever. Or, how about this bet: if the sun rises tomorrow, you have to leave this board forever. Or, how about this bet. If it gets colder than 40 between now and January, you have to leave this board forever. Let me know. I think these are fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 No where in this thread did cheesycow say anything about being a fan of "both teams." It was eallstun who said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted October 16, 2004 Author Share Posted October 16, 2004 Listen- i think it'd be fun to make a little wager. I thought, perhaps, since bills fans think of mizzou as a big rival program, they'd perhaps get a kick out of making a bet as to the result of the upcoming season. if you don't want to take me seriously, that's fine, i shan't cry myself to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I am being serious about making a wager. I gave you bet options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted October 16, 2004 Author Share Posted October 16, 2004 and i'm not going to take any of them. as funny as they are, i'd prefer to wager with folks that might actually have fun with it and take it seriously, rather than those who take themselves far too seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Let's please look at objective measures to determine superiority. I think it's only fair to look at RPI and not records. If both teams make the NCAA, then I think it's only fair to look at who has the higher seed in the tournament. Granted, Mizzou will probably have the edge here due to presumably stronger conference, but with the stronger conference they'll have to play tougher teams. I just don't think comparing records or even head-to-head battles are effective comparisons. I know there are various RPI indexes, but maybe we could come up with some composite index of them and do an average. I realize that SLU finished one round further than Mizzou in the NIT, but I think that's somewhat tainted. For one, SLU barely beat a Iowa team on a "home" floor, while Mizzou barely lost on the ROAD to the eventual NIT champs, Michigan. I'm sure there are other RPI indexes, but here is http://www.collegerpi.com/cy/rpi.html I realize that Michigan as NIT champs are ranked below Mizzou, but I don't have a problem with that. Michigan barely beat Mizzou on their home court. If that game is played in Columbia, I could easily see the result being different. The NIT format is very unfair and quite frankly taints the overall competition. SLU is closing the gap and may overtake Mizzou this year, but I think it will be another year or two before that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickdraw Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 >that the Tigers will have a better season than >the Billikens this year. I assumed he was he was making reference to players' earnings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 AJ, rather than using a yardstick that is very biased toward the higher rated conference, use the yardstick generated within the conference each team is a member - preseason rank of finish voted by the coaches. The coaches are great judges of talent and have actually played against each team year after year. This method would be unfair fotr the Tigers, though, as the Big 12 coaches tip their vote toward talent, and so far Q has proven he can coach a team DOWN, but not UP with his March is the Month strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted October 17, 2004 Author Share Posted October 17, 2004 I think if a point system can be agreed on, it'd be the best way to go. rpi and ranking would favor the tigers too much for it to be fair. I mean, last year the Tigers had a better rpi. it's not so clear cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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