moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I'm just the messenger here, but WH is a well-respected poster on the A-10 board so i thought i would paste it here. Obviously, the bolded part is what caught my eye. WH posted: "Interesting development. Wonder why it took so long after the season for St. Louis to act. At the very least, he should have been canned before the team banquet a few days ago. Soderberg and his whole family attended. Some speculate about whether he broke some sort of rule in light of a curious school statement on the firing. In any case, I can't say I blame the admin. Soderberg can coach, all right, but he's easily the worst recruiter in the A-10. You've got Travis Ford signing up NINE kids for SIX scholies, and Soderberg can't get ANYBODY to sign in the early-signing period. I am eager to hear the list of candidates." (emphasis added) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 I'm not one to bump my own thread, but i thought the speculation on a broken rule was worthy of discussing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 He was at the AAU practice with the entire staff and Anthony Mitchell on Saturday. The whole Lisch family was at the rec playing ball as well, and he was chumming it up with Ms. Lisch. He also was talking to AAU players. Not sure if that is a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleBilliken Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Broke a rule? No effing way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 That was my 1st, 2nd and 3rd thought Nash, but WH doesn't seem to be one to throw wild internet rumors around willy nilly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 That was the first thing that crossed my mind when I read TDell's post this morning. The fact that they pulled the kids out of class and did it so precipitiously--why the need for all of that? Something is fishy! Also, the press release had a comment about following the NCAA rules that seemed odd to me. Who knows? It is really unfair to Brad to speculate but it did make me think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 The more I think about this the more I am starting to wonder. They have changed the post already on the web site. So it looks like this was done quickly. I had a friend tell me about the fact they have raised money that could cover the buyout, but that friend is shocked by what happened today. I mean shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Not for a moment. (If true though we might as well become hockey fans because no big name coach will come to SLU under a cloud/allegations/sanctions......) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Of all the things regarding Brad, I always respected his integrity and would never have suspected a rule violation. Nor do i now suspect he has broken a rule, but you are absolutely right, something is definitely fishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glanderm Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Brian- Just curious how the post has changed - I didn't pick up on that. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 bad recruiter - yes Cheater - no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 The part about part about AT taking over on interim basis was not in the original post. Also I wis I would have copied the original post because it does not read the same. Maybe I am just reading to much into it because I am shocked. I would have a hard time believing Brad actually broke any rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Maybe one of the assistants broke a rule? Brad would ultimately be responsible, correct? I'm sure the assistants are feeling as much pressure as Brad when it comes to recruiting. That is just specualtion and adding to this thread. I don't see Brad breaking any rules so if a rule was broken I would think it would come from an assistant as opposed to him and I really don't see any assistants breaking any rules under Brad's guidance or on their own. I also still think it is odd that Kramer is not playing with the Eagles this summer. I still am not sold on why he is not playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 even if he did (and i'm certainly not saying he did), i would have an even harder time thinking he did it intentionally. I've got to say that the chance that Sodie broke a rule is about the same as us landing Roy Williams. But i thought the suggestion was thought provoking to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostatic Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Kramer is a driven young man -- he didn't become physically stronger, and an excellent shooter by playing with the Eagles. He enjoyed playing with those players, but didn't feel he was able to develop his game during the offseason, with all the traveling they do in AAU ball. AAU ball isn't about getting better; it's about showcasing your ability and letting people see what you can do. It takes a very strong individual to walk away from that; a hard worker, a dedicated player. He's knows what is important. If you need an example, see Kevin Lisch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WH Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I'm certainly not trying to fan any flames. The thought that Soderberg would cheat would never occur to me, but I and others found the following sentence in the school statement rather curious: "The new head coach also must be committed to the University's history of following NCAA regulations and graduating its student-athletes." Of course, the school also talks about Soderberg's integrity in its statement, but why mention anything about following NCAA rules? It's to be expected that any new coach hired will follow the rules. I suspect someone got a little excited when writing the statement, but who knows. It would have been better to leave that sentence out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glanderm Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I noticed that too, but I guess I wouldn't read too much into it. I read it more as a statement that the successful candidate for the open head coaching position will be committed to winning but also to running a clean program that also emphasizes academics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 WH, i respect your insight and posts. It was not my intent to say you were trying to fan flames. On the one hand, I agree with your points above. On the other, isn't this normal boilerplate language associated with such press statements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 WH, welcome to SLU sports PR department. If you havent already noticed, the people who work there seem to be missing a few brain cells. You may be looking into this a little too much. But in todays collegiate athlectics, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 That was the sentence I was referring to earlier. Odd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I think the sentence is fine. It is probably just to quell all the talk about the guys out there who don't do it right. As of late, it is obvious some schools don't care. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 The original statement is posted on my blog at: http://billikenbasketball.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Thanks Nark. I should have known you would have it up over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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