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@thetorch: On May 22, in this thread, bottom of page four, you said "We threw around a quarter of a million dollars last year and this year Ford says we don't have even 6 figures to give a recruit?" My question remains .... where did you get a "quarter of a million dollars?" Without proper citations, statements like these become urban legends and are accepted as truth. Now, given your background, they very well may be truths but I'm asking for the source citations. Got any? In Brooklyn, I was told maybe two or three guys got about $7k apieces from some legit government program (which I doubt). And then Yuri got anywhere between $25k and $40k. That's a long way from a quarter of a million spent.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/01/19/David-Burns-of-St-Louis-University-Monday-was-named/8584348728400/ Could have been this game vs Memphis I've always considered Burns at worst the third best billiken individual player (Hughes and Bonner).

I was slightly bewildered this morning when none of the many streaming services I have featured war movies on Memorial Day. But we're in an on demand world and I queued something up. I'm smoking some meat and watching Battle of the Bulge. Great cast: Henry Fonda, Tully Sevalis, and Charles Bronson are so good. What's your go to war movie?

Haven't watched it in a long time. I did have a Vietnam vet, door gunner, tell me that it was a realistic depiction (sadly). Charlie Sheen in a Vietnam movie made years after his dad starred in an epic Vietnam film. Plus Willem Dafoe's epic death scene.

A little embarrassed......not sure if it's the same guy and too much of a puss to find out.....But a kid I grew up with was Paul Gosden.....I knew he was a Marine and never though to catch up with him. We'd always dreamed of being pilots as kids and it looks like he made it as Paul "Goose " Gosden. Chopper pilot with all sorts of action in the mideast.......God love him and keep him safe.....

I love that Kelly's Heroes is as much a counterculture movie from the late 60s/early 70s as it is a classic WWII movie.

Why don't you knock it with them negative waves.

We Were Soldiers. Mel Gibson in Braveheart form as the great Hal Moore. Sam Elliot........God I love Sam Elliot "Good Day Sargent Major!" Sam Elliot: "What are you a f'ing weatherman?" Gettysburg. Also Sam Elliot as General John Buford. Maybe one of the best speeches ever and almost to the letter of what Michael Shaara wrote in The Killer Angels: " Whole damn Reb army's gonna be here. They'll move through this town, occupy these hills on the other side, and when our people get here Lee'll have the high ground, and there'll be the devil to pay! The high ground! Meade'll come in slowly, cautiously, new to command. They'll be on his back from Washington. Wires hot with messages. "Attack! Attack!" So he will set up a ring around these hills. And when Lee's army is all nicely entrenched behind fat rocks on the high ground, Meade'll finally attack, if he can coordinate the army. Straight up the hillside, out in the open, in that gorgeous field of fire. We will charge valiantly... and be butchered valiantly! And afterwards, men in tall hats and gold watch fobs will thump their chests and say what a brave charge it was." Also Jeff Daniels in his one role where he wasn't a puss or a commie.....

A Bridge Too Far or Kelly's Heroes.

Love all these. I recommend Tom Rick's book "The Generals" each chapter outlines an American General good or bad in chronological order. Patton was both terrible and great from Rick'sperspective. This realization that some people are the right person for a certain job has influenced my view of many things to include college sports coaching. Every time I think of Bridge over the River Kwai, I have to whistle.

Saving Private Ryan, I once took 5 Germans to the Army Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) Theater in Wiesbaden, Germany to see the movie (they wanted to see it) it wasn't a fun Friday after that viewing. Band of Brothers is the absolute best military movie/show ever. Me and a fellow Lieutenant had our cots close inour tent and would watch on a portable DVD player before we went to sleep every night days before we went into Iraq 2003. We were there day 1 of the invasion. Spoiler alert I survived.

A lot of contemporary ones on this list. I met Durant the Bllackhawk Down pilot once after his talk about the incident. Nice guy a little (actually a lot) salty about Clinton not approving a armored vehicle to be in Somalia. It would've made a difference in the situation but it wasn't foreseen as necessary at the time. Ya'll may not know but we have some troops in Somalia today. The Strait of Hormuz is very strategically important.

Some great ones mentioned. I’ll add Patton, Full Metal Jacket, The Bridge on the River Kwai and Kelly’s Heroes.

Seriously.......you've been here long enough to know what you were saying and how it would be perceived

Why would it be strange? Is that a serious comment? When you are the key player on the local D1 team and hold them hostage for a ransom payment, you should expect some blowback. The situation gets even worse when you underperform in that ransomed year. And why do you refer to Sloan and Meyer, but not Larry Hughes, or Roland G or M. Douglass or Erwin C, all of whom are locals and held in "high regard" by Billiken fans?

I don’t necessarily agree with it and I definitely think it’s over the top but I get it. He threatened to bail on the program at an awful time, he was the leader of what some consider a very underachieving team, trying take over close games and failing. when you are QB1 you are going to get most of the blame when things go bad.