billiken_roy Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 this article with picture is on chris monter's site today. for those of you unfamiliar with chris monter, he is without a doubt the formost authority of the nba draft in the world. thus his need to keep up with the college and now more than ever the high school scene. anyway, here is chris's article. i would link, but his site is a paysite: "6-4 Tommie Liddell will announce college Friday By Chris Monter Date: Oct 1, 2003 6-4 Tommie Liddell of East St. Louis (IL) High will announce his college choice this Friday. Liddell averaged 17.2 points, 7.9 rebounds and 2.8 assists per game last season as the Flyers finished 21-7 last season. He shot 52.7% from the field, 26.7% from three-point range and 69.5% from the line. St. Louis head coach Brad Soderberg and assistant Angres Thorpe visited Liddell Monday. Liddell is expected to commit to the Billikens Friday. He played for the St. Louis Eagles AAU team." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleBilliken Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 That is good news...at least we know it's not just a message board rumor (no offense to jalensdad or pdiddy). I wonder where chris gets his information from.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 From Jalen's dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 it has always been my understanding that these guys surf the web and talk to contacts 24/7. if a credible rumor comes up, then they react by trying to get someone to verify. i.e. for all we know, chris reads our board. then he starts calling. he might call coach brad, the liddell's, his high school coach, the eagles coach, anyone that will know the straight story. once they believe it is solid they write it. judging from the fact the story mentions a visit from angres and brad to the liddell house, i would guess his source is either brad or angres or the lidell's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I thought coaches could not comment on possible recruits until they sign the LOI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 they cannot publically make such a statement. you are correct. a good reporter though can ask a question that the coach can answer in a way to get the message across. plus, you did not see a quote from slu did you. i.e. "dont quote me". or "i didnt tell you this". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 tiger roy is right ..... but there are other examples that can be used as well. We in the profession use something called that "background." Some could take to the level of "deep background." But to go this route you have to be confortable in trusting that the reporter won't reveal his sources. Some hide it. Woodward and Bernstein used their background so deep that it became "deep throat." Linda Lovelace on the other hand ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 ... will get this reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I don't think porn references are lost on any generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 I don't know if I qualify as young'un (mid thirties), but I didn't understand a thing you said. Please elaborate to benefit my comprehension, unless you relish leaving up communication barriers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 deep throat. Don't do it at work! It's a porn flick from the 70's I believe. The other equally famous deep throat is Woodward and Bernstein's mysterious source for the info that brought down Nixon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 and to complete the translation thicks, linda lovelace was the "star" of the film, "deep throat"........or so i heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 1, 2003 Author Share Posted October 1, 2003 :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I don't have a problem understanding "deep throat." What throws me are the "background" and "deep background" references that come before it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't take Taj's initial "professional" reference to mean anything related to pornography. Was the whole post related to it, or did Taj segue into it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 I'm like the character Michael Keaton played in the movie "Night Shift." Sometimes, when the mind gets going, its kind of hard to tell where I'm going to end up with things. Kind of like web site reporting ... blah, blah, blah .... porn! Some may not be able to see the connection; I not only see it, I can make it. And with a mind like mine ... one that so low it can play handball with the curb .... well, you get the picture, right thicks. Might have something to do with my formative upbringing on 16G. See other thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Edible underwear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 Oh nice! No flavor recommendation?!?! No restaurant review-like synopsis??!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 2, 2003 Share Posted October 2, 2003 That's all well and good, but are you going to enlighten me on the meaning of your "background" and "deep background" references? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 I work with the press .... television, radio and print. Like any other profession, we can have some codes we work through. For themost part, when talking, you have to assume its all quotable. So whatever you say, it can appear in print with the words "said so-and-so" behind it. But I can code my response by saying "this is on background." Basically it means that they can use it but I would prefer they not use my name on it. I don't care if at that point they attribute to "said an unnamed source" but I don't want my name on it at all. And if I can take it even further by saying this is on "deep background" meaning I would prefer that if they use it they don't attribute it at all. For the most part, you can almost bet that if a source is named in a quote, you're pretty close to whomever is feeding the background as well. I don't do this all the time .... I have to develop a rapport with my guys to feel comfortable going this route. I have that with a couple of the press contacts I've used over time. Monter may have gotten word from someone ... maybe even members of the SLU coaching staff. But you would have to believe that they would have to feel really really comfortable before doing anything like that. That's just my speculation. Of course, Monter is connected to the NBA and maybe SLU used a NBA-er to explain how great it is to stay and play at home for college. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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