Sheltiedave Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 From outside Springfield, IL. http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sportsstory.asp?id=133663 As far as Illinois high school player rankings, here is a decent site. Just select players, and then year to get the class you want. O'Rear is looking pretty high on their chart as well.... http://www.midstatehoops.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 If we get this guy (the article makes it sound doubtful) he would be a Freshman when Bryce is a Senior...We better get some someones in the spring signing period..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 St. Joes has a kid, not sure of his name, who sounds like similar. The kid was a pg until he had a growth spurt of about 10". He's a guard in a Center's body. 205 lbs? Course you can't teach 7' and there's always the gym to add bulk. Sounds like we have little chance. The kid bleeds orange and blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 We just need to lockup Brandenburg. We can win the A10 with local talent if we could just keep local guys home like Powell and Woodland in 2007, Bradenburg, Suggs, or even Roundtree in 2008, and Griffin or Allen in 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 I know we have to walk before we can run but long term, we have to be thinking about more than just winning in the A10. That is the Norm Steward goal - win your conferece and beat Kansas and that is all that really matters. I do agree that if we can become a consistent winner of the A10 it will help us recruit for the bigger event - although it did not work for Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 No we just need to win the A10 first. That will get us to the tourney every year. That will help us in every facet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 I tried to access the article, but the link no longer works. Was that a story about Mike Tisdale? If so, he already has a St. Louis connection with the Eagles. He'd be a good pickup for the Billikens, but he's raw. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Tisdale, Illinois mutually interested by Lindsey Willhite Daily Herald Sports Writer CHAMPAIGN - Illinois didn't offer a scholarship to 7-foot Riverton junior Mike Tisdale on Sunday. But don't be surprised if the 16-year-old prodigy gets and accepts an offer before the calendar clicks over to 2006. Wearing a gray Illinois sweatshirt, Tisdale attended the Illini's 61-42 victory over Coppin State. Tisdale admitted he didn't yet have a scholarship offer from Illinois coach Bruce Weber, but he knows what he'd say if and when it comes. "Yes," Tisdale said. At present, the 205-pound Tisdale has offers from Southern Illinois and Purdue, plus interest from Michigan, Saint Louis and others. But Tisdale, who has retained a guard's skills while growing 8 inches in the past two years and doesn't turn 17 until September, has "always" been an Illinois fan. He lives just east of Springfield, approximately 75 miles west of Champaign, and he racked up 33 points and 14 rebounds when Weber watched him play Dec. 6. If he accepts a scholarship, Tisdale would join Indianapolis guard E.J. Gordon and Peoria forward Bill Cole as juniors who've committed to the Illini since Thanksgiving. That would leave Illinois with just one open scholarship for current high school seniors and juniors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 Joe, right you are! We are chasing after Mike Tisdale(#5,) Lucas O'Rear(#7,) and Jeremy Felton(#16) amongst juniors on the Illinois side. Recruiting is not nearly the walk in the park VTime perceives it to be. Besides grades, mutual interest, available playing time and team needs, projected player development, and how the coaching staff likes the various kids they are recruiting, there are many other issues that may never come to light. Based on VTime's player assessments, it should be no problem for Harris Stowe and Forest Park to pick up all the outstanding academic nonqualifiers every year and DOMINATE JUCO and Dwhatever land, respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 >>We just need to lockup Brandenburg<< Would love to see us land the Spartan (hope there is no ill will between Brad and Steiner over the whole Blake Ahearn deal). But Brandenburg is a soph so I think we should get another center in an earlier class to slot behind Ian/Bryce. BTW, Ahearn is averaging 20 PPG and shooting 45% from 3 this year. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=15571 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Recruiting is not nearly the walk in the park VTime >perceives it to be. Besides grades, mutual interest, >available playing time and team needs, projected player >development, and how the coaching staff likes the various >kids they are recruiting, there are many other issues that >may never come to light. I have been saying this over and over. thanks for reminding us all. it seems like a curious waste of time to speculate about whther SLU is chasing some defect from a dirty program. Again, as a teacher at SLU, I can assure you that we are quite deliberate about the kinds of students who will succeed here. I have said before that personality and character, besides grades, are important factors. These are the realities of recruitment at SLU and comparable schools. anyway, there are limited resources for pursuing, and winning, top athletes, even besides those special considerations at a private Jesuit school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 >Recruiting is not nearly the walk in the park VTime >>perceives it to be. Besides grades, mutual interest, >>available playing time and team needs, projected player >>development, and how the coaching staff likes the various >>kids they are recruiting, there are many other issues that >>may never come to light. > >I have been saying this over and over. thanks for reminding >us all. > >it seems like a curious waste of time to speculate about >whther SLU is chasing some defect from a dirty program. > >Again, as a teacher at SLU, I can assure you that we are >quite deliberate about the kinds of students who will >succeed here. I have said before that personality and >character, besides grades, are important factors. These are >the realities of recruitment at SLU and comparable schools. >anyway, there are limited resources for pursuing, and >winning, top athletes, even besides those special >considerations at a private Jesuit school. Way to show your ignorance. Secondly, Harris-Stowe has the same academic standards as most Division schools and a non qualifier for SLU would not be eligilble at Harris-Stowe either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Nothing wrong with starting Brandenburg as a freshman if he keeps coming along. Bryce and Brandenburg are both sophs so John would come in the year following Bryce's exhausted eligibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 >Way to show your ignorance. Since I assume that is directed at me, it might be helpful if you were to tutor all of us lowly readers on whatever it is you consider to be my ignorance. Or was that self-directed?? Who knows. To tell the truth: I doubt if I could have stated much more obvious and sober realities about recruitment than what I did say, but perhaps you just know a lot more about higher education than I do. I honestly have no idea why anyone might disagree, but then again some people believe in aliens. Anyway, thanks for your kind, attentive, and edifying observations during this holiday season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 i think chasing jeremy felton is a waste of time. this kid has had nothing but academic problems since he got to high school. he has yet to play an entire season in high school because of periodic suspensions of academic problems. this year he has only played in just a couple of games for belleville east due to academic suspensions and is currently not playing. the kid has a boat load of athletic talent. he jumps as well as anyone i have seen in a long time. but i think he will be at a juco in two years. not at a 4 year school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Vtime - that is what I said. Reread the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Law Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Saw Brandenberg recently - he needs a LOT of work but the potential is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 >Saw Brandenberg recently - he needs a LOT of work but the >potential is there. Centers take time to physically mature so, even if we landed him, I would not want to count on this kid starting as a freshman. It would be expecting a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 "it seems like a curious waste of time to speculate about whther SLU is chasing some defect from a dirty program." Doc, you seem to enjoy flinging out a statement like that from time to time. Blunt, to the point, and as you say, speculation. You know the kid is a "defect"? Who's doing the speculation here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 It is RARE for freshman to play much for UB. Note how special Lisch and Liddell are. Especially a big man. mhg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Looks like he'll eventually be an Illini. My guess is he'll redshirt is freshman year in '07-'08 due to the depth in Illinois' frontcourt. [http://www.pjstar.com/stories/122705/JOH_B8GK7TG1.080.shtml] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 a 200 lb 7 footer is a reach. i dont care how good his ball skills are. that is skinny!!! but his suitor list is pretty good. i would bet most everyone would want to redshirt him and then feed him for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted December 27, 2005 Author Share Posted December 27, 2005 Roy, if you grew 10 inches in a year starting tomorrow, you would be back at skinny a year from now! His body has had no chance whatsoever to keep up with his growth spurt, hence the 200 lbs. He will end up being in the 240- 250 lb range by his junior year, when it actually matters. He may be available, as Illinois has some maor players declaring their interest/committment to attend. Their junior early commit class is smoking, and he is right behind Cole in most rankings. The state actually has a high level of competition, so the downstate rankings are pretty accurate. The kid does have talent offensively. If he is "good enough" for Illinois, he would be smoking for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 sheltie, i didnt mean to infer i didnt want him to be a billiken. my only point was to advise that he is likely the candidate that coach soderberg referenced that would be a "project" that would be redshirted. a player that wont immediately come in and be the answer to all questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I agree, he is a reach. Evidenly Weber really likes his abilities, assuming this story is correct. He will redshirt if he goes to Illinois, no doubt. We'll have plenty of centers with 6'9' Shaun Pruitt a senior, 6'11" top 40 recruit Brian Carlwell a sophomore, 6'8" redshirt sophomore PF/C Charles Jackson, 6'9" sophomore PF Richard Semrau and 6'8" senior PF Brian Randle ahead of him. He'll have time to add weight and work on his game. Who knows, maybe Weber will talk him into going the 5th year prep route? From all indications, the kid bleeds O & B, so him might do that too, if a scholarship is promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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