Bizziken Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Per the live-rpi.com feature on RPIforecast.com, this pushes LMU's RPI all the way up to 90. Thus, they are now officially out of 'bad loss' territory. Currently, the RPI of certain games for SLU are as follows: Tenn St. (W) - 136 Washington (W) - 56 Oklahoma (W) - 110 (how disappointing!) Villanova (W) - 105 (Grrrrrrr!) Vermont (W) - 139 LMU (L) - 90 New Mexico (L) - 29 Dayton (L/W)- 66 Temple (L) - 18 Xavier (W) - 54 UMass (L) - 71 St. Joe (W) - 50 LaSalle (W) - 89 Don't forget Duquesne with an RPI of 85...that at least makes our record against Top 100 RPI's a respectable 6-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Big win for LMU (C+ ) over St. M (A- ) at SM's place. I never considered LMU a bad loss. They have always hung around C+. When I do the numbers tomorrow they will still be around C+. They weren't that bad before and they are not that good now. It is hard to move much this time of the year. This win though is very important for the non tech people. These are the people who still have SLU around 40. Wins like this will catch their attention and make them think SLU doesn't have any really bad losses. Of course, we all knew that. I had New Mex winning this game by 4 so not much help to SLU....NM(A+ ) beats SDS (B+ ) ..no surprise. Vermont (C+...in fact very similar to LMU) beats Albany (D+ ) ...no surprise and not much help. Nova (B ) loses to USF (B- ) @ USF ....no help there but littlle damage. Bottomline and biggest help was that we won and came in right on target. That's all we have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Bottomline and biggest help was that we won and came in right on target. That's all we have to do. -this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Big win for LMU (C+ ) over St. M (A- ) at SM's place. I never considered LMU a bad loss. They have always hung around C+. When I do the numbers tomorrow they will still be around C+. They weren't that bad before and they are not that good now. It is hard to move much this time of the year. This win though is very important for the non tech people. These are the people who still have SLU around 40. Wins like this will catch their attention and make them think SLU doesn't have any really bad losses. Of course, we all knew that. I had New Mex winning this game by 4 so not much help to SLU....NM(A+ ) beats SDS (B+ ) ..no surprise. Vermont (C+...in fact very similar to LMU) beats Albany (D+ ) ...no surprise and not much help. Nova (B ) loses to USF (B- ) @ USF ....no help there but littlle damage. Bottomline and biggest help was that we won and came in right on target. That's all we have to do. st mary's as an a+ maybe be considered too nice. id say closer to "B" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Big win for LMU (C+ ) over St. M (A- ) at SM's place. I never considered LMU a bad loss. They have always hung around C+. When I do the numbers tomorrow they will still be around C+. They weren't that bad before and they are not that good now. It is hard to move much this time of the year. This win though is very important for the non tech people. These are the people who still have SLU around 40. Wins like this will catch their attention and make them think SLU doesn't have any really bad losses. Of course, we all knew that. I had New Mex winning this game by 4 so not much help to SLU....NM(A+ ) beats SDS (B+ ) ..no surprise. Vermont (C+...in fact very similar to LMU) beats Albany (D+ ) ...no surprise and not much help. Nova (B ) loses to USF (B- ) @ USF ....no help there but littlle damage. Bottomline and biggest help was that we won and came in right on target. That's all we have to do. Obviously, I agree with everything you say and I pretty much subscribe to your methodolgy. But, of course, we also know that the selection committee definitely uses RPI as a major contributing factor when selecting a team to the dance. And one thing they like to see are lack of 'bad losses'. Now that LMU has moved into the top 100 of RPI, coupled with the fact that it was a road loss, then I think we can all agree this gives the committee less of a reason to try to screw over SLU when it comes to at-large selection and seeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 SLU #22 RPI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 st mary's as an a+ maybe be considered too nice. id say closer to "B" He had St. Mary's as an 'A-'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 He had St. Mary's as an 'A-'. Ah my bad.....I just wish nova would do a bit better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Duh. Congrats, btw on the Wedding! I'm assuming your bride-to-be passes the "eye test." Ha. She totally passed the 'eye test' for me. But when choosing me, she noticed that my Sagarin rating was much higher than my AP Poll and decided to take a chance on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I still consider Okla ( B ) a quality win. They don't look so hot only because they play in the 2nd best conference. (B10 I think is the best.) As for LMU, I think one more win in their tourney against one of the Big 3 (Zags, SM, BYU) would push them to B-.. And finally let us not forget about Wash (B+ ) who I think is right there with St. J, La S, and X all B+....all quality wins. The outlook is still showing us favored in all the remaining games including the A-10 tourney. And projecting even further ....and depending on the seeding...I am showing the Bills can reach the Elite 8. Obviously a bad seed such as 8 or 9 would change things dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 She totally passed the 'eye test' for me. But when choosing me, she noticed that my Sagarin rating was much higher than my AP Poll and decided to take a chance on me. Grats 2 you on the wedding. If you stop by the sports book, you will notice not only are the Bills 75 to1 to win the NC but Temple the team many think is better than us is going at 200 to 1. Sounds like Vegas uses computer programs too. Those greenhorns.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Doesn't look like RealTimeRPI has been updated yet. We're 22 but listed at 19-5 and 8-3 instead of 20-5 and 9-3. Should we expect a boost when it refreshes today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Doesn't look like RealTimeRPI has been updated yet. We're 22 but listed at 19-5 and 8-3 instead of 20-5 and 9-3. Should we expect a boost when it refreshes today? Not sure we get much of a boost from the win, but I would hope New Mexico and LMU getting big wins could give us a little boost. I'll be interested to here what our resident numbers crunchers have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Game over. New Mexico wins by 10. LMU up by 11 with less than 5 left. Clearly San Diego State lost because Steve Fisher was running those "boot camp" practices leading up to the New Mexico game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 She totally passed the 'eye test' for me. But when choosing me, she noticed that my Sagarin rating was much higher than my AP Poll and decided to take a chance on me. So she relies more on numbers than on beauty contests. (The softball has been pitched.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Not sure we get much of a boost from the win, but I would hope New Mexico and LMU getting big wins could give us a little boost. I'll be interested to here what our resident numbers crunchers have to say. The influence of other teams can cumulatively maybe move SLU up a ranking or two but usually things are cancelling each other out. MOST of the movement up has to do with teams ranked ahead of us losing or playing a terrible team at home. Our own wins and losses will not be helping much and simply playing Fordham at home will knock SLU down several points even if SLU wins. Basically, when you are ranked 22 it is hard to move up. Against most teams winning will keep SLU level (winning on the road against a .700 WP or more team would help but SLU does not have any of those games left); even beating Xavier will only move SLU up a few points this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The influence of other teams can cumulatively maybe move SLU up a ranking or two but usually things are cancelling each other out. MOST of the movement up has to do with teams ranked ahead of us losing or playing a terrible team at home. Our own wins and losses will not be helping much and simply playing Fordham at home will knock SLU down several points even if SLU wins. Basically, when you are ranked 22 it is hard to move up. Against most teams winning will keep SLU level (winning on the road against a .700 WP or more team would help but SLU does not have any of those games left); even beating Xavier will only move SLU up a few points this time of year. Yeah, I understand that. I was just surprised that it wasn't updated at all this morning. I'm curious to see where SLU and our opponents will be. I know that the win last night won't do anything, but the LMU and UNM wins are intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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