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18 hours ago, slufan13 said:
I know you are one of his biggest fans, but Yuri has been bad the past few weeks. So has the whole team. Ford has been the worst though. There's time to get it right
I agree with all of the above.
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10 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:
its as much the responsibility of the passer that the pass is caught as the receiver. i go to a lot of youngsters "select" games. most of the teams have a hotshot on the team far better than the rest. i see all the time that star make an incredible pass that the receiver isnt capable of catching. part surprise part just the receiver not being on the same level of skill. some of yuri's passes are like this. nice to watch but not catchable by the intended target.
I don't disagree but we're not talking about those passes. It's the routine passes that slip through our front court's hands that I'm referring to - and there's many of those.
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39 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:
the screener has to be completely set before the player with the ball drives. sorry, yes, okoro officially gets the foul but it was yuri's poor handling of the situation that caused the foul.
How often have we complained about moving screens? See: Obi Toppin. You and I both know they don't get called a VAST majority of the time. It's how the screen is set far more than it is when. Okoro set the screen with a shoulder, can't do that.
BUT if that's the logic we're using, let's talk about the turnovers credited to Yuri that are really the fault of the receivers
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1 hour ago, brianstl said:
In the last 5 minutes of the SIUE game Yuri had a layup blocked, a stupid turnover when he exposed the ball to the defender, had another layup blocked, missed a layup, caused Okoro to foul out with an illegal screen and missed another layup. The stat sheet gives Yuri one turnover in the last five minutes, but in reality he caused the ball to be turned over to SIUE six times in the last five minutes. We were up seven when Yuri had that first layup blocked. He had four layups blocked in the last ten minutes of the game and missed another two.
Is Yuri the only problem? No, but what has happened to him at the end of games where we have blown big leads is not what you want out of your PG.
Okoro fouled out because he laid a shoulder into the defender he was screening. Yuri might've left early, I'm not arguing that, but what got the call was the much larger Okoro setting an obviously illegal screen on a much smaller defender. He does this often and gets away with it.
The other argument I'm not willing to settle on is that Yuri's tendency to over-drive and take shots we'd probably rather he didn't is at least in part, arguably in large part or majority, due to his teammates lack of movement (Gibby excluded) and overall inability to score the fu**ing basketball.
Most importantly, yes, I wish Yuri was better at closing games. We'd be in a different situation right now and surely a lot happier. Wouldn't hurt if someone else could close out a game too, though, including Ford. -
1 hour ago, billiken_roy said:
i agree. if only that was all he aspired to be.
If coach installed a decent offense, we were running in transition more often, and the other guys were doing their jobs better he'd have the option to revert to only passing, but none of those seem to be the case.
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On 12/24/2022 at 8:51 PM, Old guy said:
Forgive me for saying this, but we are not a bad team. What we are not is a team that comes close to the exaggerated level of expectations this board had. We have big fails as a team, having Yuri control the ball is not something anywhere close to a path to victory. Not infrequently it is a path to defeat.
Yuri has cost us games and probably our chance to go to the Dance. But Yuri, of course, does not operate in a vacuum. It is Ford that agrees with whatever he is doing and does not stop him when he if rushing towards defeat, that is the true cause of our problems.
Coaches are responsible for the way players are allowed to play. He should yank Yuri off the court, at least like he does with Okoro and others.
You want a team with confident players capable of taking risks and scoring? Then you need a different coach leading the team.
Hey, Old Fart, watch games through a different lens once in a while. There are more problems than just Yuri.
I'll happily admit that he has issues, some much larger than I'd care for, but most ALL of his issues are greatly enhanced by the problems of those around him. Yuri Collins is still the best passing point guard in the country and that's how our team was built - to complement that truth. The issue is our entire team fu**ing sucks, and what can a pass first guard do when nobody can make a damn shot? Not a lot. Drive into trouble and hope for a foul I guess. A lot of this is on the coach, some of it is on Yuri, some of it is on every other player that steps on the court. There is not one sole reason or person at fault and your bit is getting real old. -
10 hours ago, BACKHANDtheRICAN said:
I see no correlation to his assist stats and us being a better team. So I find this thread utterly stupid.
I see no correlation to your tired message board b!tching and the betterment of either your life or ours. So I find your existence here utterly stupid.
- Billiken Rich and slufanskip
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1 hour ago, Westy03 said:
The guy who the arena is named after and his son are pretty active on twitter - maybe reach out to them there.
I bet at least one of them sees this message board post, too.
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Just now, BC1764 said:
Can’t handle some truth telling ?
It's the delivery. You're intentionally obnoxious and overwhelmingly unwanted here.
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22 minutes ago, BC1764 said:
And if I’m wrong about him, who cares ? I don’t need to answer to him. The core part of the fanbase is aging and they need every casual fan they can get to care about this program and not turn them off.
What we need is for you to go f*** yourself
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1 minute ago, Soderball said:
That ended after we had a home loss to Boise State. We come in first in conference season, win the A10 tournament, or we are going to the NIT.
I - and most basketball brains, too - disagree with you.
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13 minutes ago, Compton said:
Someone mentioned that Providence and Drake beating Top 25 teams moved us up all of ONE spot. That may have been in reference to NET. In KenPom we actually dropped one spot after yesterday's games.
We have a few quality wins. To parrot what you and @wgstlare saying, what we clearly need is more beat downs of low-level teams.
One spot may seem insignificant but that was all while we were sitting at home. We didn't even play a game.
Important things to track:- Drake's win moved them up 15 spots to 84, and they're now only 9 spots away from turning to a Q2 win. That development would (likely) show far more improvement. Drake has as many as 5 Q2 games in conference play and could easily win 15+ games in conference play so 9+ spots in NET is very realistic if not likely.
- Providence's win moved them up 7 spots to 79th and if they can climb 29 more to 50th they will be a Q1 win. If that happens I bet we move 5-10 spots in NET and our at-large chances go through the roof. Providence has as many as 9 Q1 games and 5 Q2 games left on the schedule (the Q2 games could increase if some of the Q1 fall in rankings) so moving 29 spots is not out of the question though could be difficult. KenPom does have them projected to finish 10-10 in conference play in which case they would not be anywhere near 50, but they'd have to be below 100 to lose the Q2 status for us, and if they play like they did last night they will be laughing at 10-10.
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As I posted in the "B!tch about Coach Ford" thread:
Dayton is now the 88th ranked team in NET after climbing 20 spots from 108 following their 40-point victory yesterday. Just 4 days ago they moved 29 spots from 145 to 116 after beating Wyoming by 17 in a game they were only favored by 2.5, and just 6 days before that they moved 30 spots from 189 to 159 after beating UNC Asheville by 23 in a game they were only favored by 10.5. They improved 101 spots in the NET rankings in a span of ~11 days.
This goes to show two things: There's a LOT of room for movement in the NET rankings (albeit maybe less in the sub-100 range than there is above it), and it's very important that we win big in the games we can.A10 NET Rankings (and Games on the Schedule):
87th SLU
88th Dayton (02/10 @ Dayton, Q2 - 13 spots from a Q1 game | 03/03 @ Chaifetz, Q3 - " ")
103rd Fordham (01/31 @ Fordham, Q2 - 28 spots from a Q1 game)
106th UMass (01/04 @ UMass, Q2 - 31 spots from Q1)
130th George Mason (01/11 @ Chaifetz, Q3)
134th Duquesne (02/18 @ Chaifetz, Q3)
138th Davidson (01/27 @ Davidson, Q3 - 3 spots from Q2 | 02/15 @ Chaifetz, Q3 - 22 spots from Q4)
145th VCU (02/03 @ Chaifetz, Q3 | 02/28 @ VCU, Q3 - 10 spots from Q2)
152nd Richmond (02/21 @ Richmond, Q3 - 17 spots from Q2)
191st St. Bonaventure (01/07 @ Chaifetz, Q4 - 31 spots from Q3)
204th George Washington (01/14 @ GW, Q3)
220th Loyola Chicago (01/18 @ LoyChi, Q3 - 21 spots from Q4 | 02/25 @ Chaifetz, Q4)
(Everyone else is well out of reach of being anything more than a Q4 game either at home or on the road, F*** this year's A10)
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On 12/19/2022 at 9:31 AM, Bills By 40 said:
I hope we win by 20+, that's more important than freshman playing right now. (See: NET.)
Circling back to this, reminded of it by @wgstl
Dayton is now the 88th ranked team in NET after climbing 20 spots from 108 following their 40-point victory yesterday. Just 4 days ago they moved 29 spots from 145 to 116 after beating Wyoming by 17 in a game they were only favored by 2.5, and just 6 days before that they moved 30 spots from 189 to 159 after beating UNC Asheville by 23 in a game they were only favored by 10.5. They improved 101 spots in the NET rankings in a span of ~11 days.
This goes to show two things: There's a LOT of room for movement in the NET rankings (albeit maybe less in the sub-100 range than there is above it), and it's very important that we win big in the games we can. -
15 hours ago, brianstl said:
Absolutely zero people are thinking this. Some people are hopeful that he might enroll in school early and practice with the team. I am not aware of anyone who is hopeful he burns a year of eligibility on the second half of this season.
"aBsOlUtElY zErO pEoPlE aRe ThInKiNg ThIs" dude stfu.
In this one, not only was it quoting a response of yours - you even called it a good post! (I acknowledge that in other posts you recommend against him playing and instead redshirting, nonetheless):
Another one:
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Bills by a billion, it's cougar season.
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2 hours ago, MusicCityBilliken said:
What is the status of Zhang? Did he sign?
Yes, as of now the expectation is that he'll be here in the fall. He's technically already graduated high school so some are hopeful he will waste a year of eligibility to come early and magically be the answer to all of our front court woes.
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Old Guy for coach! Old Guy for coach!!
Hell, hire him now. He could really turn this ship around in time to make the tournament. TeamRankings stock would skyrocket if he were hired as a division 1 head coach. -
Zhang would be a very high risk, medium reward addition. I can't imagine he'd acclimate quick enough to be worth significant minutes over Forrester or even Momo. I could be wrong about Momo, but I'd hate to waste a year of his eligibility for an idea that's bound to fail from the jump.
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9 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said:
I thought Ford was hacking into Wiz’s computer? You mean he’s not?
I've never Seen Ford and The Wiz in the same room at the same time
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2 minutes ago, Old guy said:Which is a very good thing to do. If it was the board posts that got him to change that even better.
You must have missed the part of the presser where Ford said "I owe a lot of thanks to Old Guy, from Billikens.com, because I drew all of my coaching inspiration from him tonight. His statistical analysis and constructive criticism alone helped me find the answers to our problems and lead this team to victory tonight. In fact, I'm even thinking of cutting Yuri from the team - he made some points that opened my eyes to the cancer that he is to this program and I have come to the conclusion that we would be better off without him. Lastly, I am announcing that we have acquired a commitment from Carteare Gordon to return to Saint Louis University in a groundbreaking transfer move and this development is enough to elevate us to a national championship contending level."
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19 hours ago, GOSLU68 said:
I like Ford but I do think this year’s team needs to step up defensive effort to steal the ball an rebounding seems sporadic in effort.
I hope Cisse and the freshmen get to play a lot in the SIUE game
I hope we win by 20+, that's more important than freshman playing right now. (See: NET.)
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12 hours ago, Old guy said:
Lord, relationships come and go, and there is a lid for every pot. All you have to do is find it.
Old guy is really on a roll in the last 24 hours... You don't get to be both an idiot and an a$$hole, pick one or the other.
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Midtown Madness: S3E19 w/ John Klein; RIP At-Large Bid; What's Wrong With This Team?; Pep Band Future Uncertain
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Great episode.