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I always assumed that McKinney was a lock for Mizzou so he slipped my mind.
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Duh, forgot about Jimmy McKinney III from Vashon. My bad, Jimmy.
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26 minutes ago, crymdg2 said:
If there was ever a game for Schertz & Co to have recruits at, this has to be the one. Any word if any are scheduled to come tonight?
The top local players from 2026 and 2027 at John Burroughs, Chaminade, CBC and Webster Groves are all playing tonight.
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4 minutes ago, slu72 said:
The plot thickens. Injury? Attitude?
Ever since it was reported Thames was struggling with a chronic medical condition, you've been doubting it. Why? What reason would Coach Schertz have to make something like this up?
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41 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said:
So more people attend, buy concessions and merch, and kids bug parents to go again later?
If the only way to do that is to have the lowest prices in the conference despite having the best arena, then you have a product problem, not a price problem. I don't think you low ball on price because you currently have a questionable product. Just improve the product. Everything else will take care of itself.
VCU is not having a problem filling seats right now despite having higher ticket prices than us.
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37 minutes ago, Cowboy II said:
-sorry for the annual repetition with my riff on the ticket pricing policy but imo it continues to be ridiculous
-upper level center tickets for both VCU and SVU are $50, that is insane and there are a lot available
-upper level ends for VCU are $10, I can see that as reasonable but there are still a lot available
-upper level ends for SVU are $20 or $25, I don't see that as reasonable and there are still a good number available
-upper level center for Mason are $40 and upper levels ends are $15 and $20, crazy and many, many to be had
-why not price the tickets to sell, create atmosphere, help the team, generate excitement, let a family bring their kids to get them exposure to SLU and perhaps create livelong fans, but not again this season
I get that's what we want. But from a business standpoint, why should SLU have the cheapest tickets in the conference?
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We shot 20% in the first half. Props to the team playing well enough in the second half where we were a three-point shot away from tying it up in the final minute. But this is a road game against a solid team. You can't shoot 20% in the first half and expect to win.
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18 minutes ago, Dr. Holly Hills said:
It will be interesting to see what happens next year with jimerson and so much scoring production gone. We’ll cross that bridge when we get there I guess.
If Coach Schertz could get productive transfers to come to Indiana St., I have confidence he can bring them here.
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31 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said:
Yet it seems it is the only hope of every A10 team this year
If VCU manages to put a long winning streak together, they'll be back in the at-large conversation.
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35 minutes ago, Pistol said:
Most people or organizations aren't all good or all bad. They're somewhere in the middle. May is no exception. He's made some great coaching hires, he's raised a lot of money, he got the Champions Center built, he brought field hockey on campus, he's gotten some other upgrades here and there, and he's finally brought in some decent merch options recently. He's also made some poor hires (especially those that mired the most important program in mediocrity for a decade), he's ignored the needs of certain programs in the department, he's overseen a department characterized by a lack of transparency, and he's overlooked the needs of regular fans while prioritizing the top donors.
You guys mention culture at the university and I don't disagree that it could be better. There's also culture within the athletic department. To me, it seems a lot easier to change the culture at that level. Say what you will about the top levels of the University, but I don't see an institution standing in the way of what the AD wants to do.
When Chris May was hired, SLU was relatively new to the A10 and it was the best place for us when CUSA (as we knew it) fell apart. Rick Majerus was the basketball coach. Chaifetz Arena was just about to open.
If you asked yourself at the time, "Where would I want Saint Louis University athletics to be as we entered the year 2025?", would you be happy with the current state of things? Would you call these 17 years a success? A failure? A mixed bag? Have we moved forward enough?
Probably worth taking a step back and considering instead of just picking a side and digging in.
The culture of the AD is a direct result of the culture of the people who hire those people. I don't see how you can separate the two.
The best chance we have of a cultural transformation within the AD is a coach coming in, winning and deciding to stay 15+ years despite the cultural obstacles. That coach will attract like-minded people and you'll see some institutional changes. Over the last 60 years, no coach has managed to win enough and stay long enough for that to happen. -
5 hours ago, TheA_Bomb said:
50 years is a long time for it to be a who. Most likely multiple people. For instance, Billiken Roy lauded Chris May as the best AD besides Yow in 50 years. That timeline coincides with mostly decline of SLU athletics with very few highlights. So, being happy with the mediocre results is part of the problem.
The reasons that I've pointed out are lack of leadership, vision, and complacency.
Let's accept the premise that May is alright as an AD. But 13 years is still too long. There is natural complacency, and new blood is often necessary for an organization to evolve. I don't accept that premise, and there is so much complacency.
SMS had a Sweet 16, and they had a Women's Final 4 that I know of. In 50 years, you'd think even a blind squirrel could find a nut. 50 years of mostly mediocrity. The changes right now are an opportunity to be seized; you can't seize it with someone who has shown no propensity for ingenuity.
Exactly, it's a cultural problem. These visionary leaders you speak of haven't materialized at SLU in 60 years because the culture won't allow it. It's the same culture that ensures the BoT will pick another AD that doesn't rock the boat after Chris May retires.
Even with these restraints, I think we're in a good position to keep our basketball coach if he can replicate his previous successes. He spent a gazillion years at a D2 job much worse than this one.
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11 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said:
In 50 years what has SLU done in basketball?
Any Sweet 16s?
1 NIT Runner up.
1 WBB NIT Championship.
SLU Soccer had a National Championship 50 years ago, and what since? 2 Final Fours.
A lot of mediocrity. Just like May, underachieving.
Sad.
How about just success? Has SLU been successful? See above.
Long term success requires the ability to have some vision and the leadership ability to adapt the organization to best take advantage. The landscape has changed rapidly and continues to change. May is a step behind.
So keep CJS. Fire May, find someone that has some vision, leadership, and communication skills. Maybe then we can achieve success, and possibly long term success.
Your position on Chris May is well known. What I don't know is this: In your opinion, why has SLU been mediocre for over 50 years and who is responsible?
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If Coach Schertz repeats his prior successes, we have a chance for long term success. He's young enough to keep it going, we're paying him a lot of money and there's virtually no media pressure.
Long term success is what every MBM wants. We're so close, I can taste it. It's ironic that this could happen under an AD with so little fan support. Life is strange.
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5 minutes ago, willie said:
As I posted previously. Do you want him back? I haven’t seen enough to form an opinion but maybe the coaches have.
Next year the scholarship limit increases to 15. Coach Schertz's rotation didn't exceed 8 guys, even going back to his Lincoln Memorial days. There's absolutely no downside to bringing back a 6'9 former top 100 player to give him one more summer to rehab. You still have multiple scholarships you can use on bigs.
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1 hour ago, okay said:
Are we officially a 1 bid league now with the Bonnies collapse against La Salle?
It's still possible for Dayton, the Bonnies or VCU to go on a 10 game win streak and get back into the at-large conversation. But the window is closing.
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49 minutes ago, Crewsorlose said:
Goodwin obviously a different caliber of player but what were Goodwin's skils or his "carrying tool" as a frosh? He couldn't shoot, like, at all. He wasn't really a PG. He wasn't an interior player. He was just a baller. Warlick was signed by Wyoming. That's been a good program. And like Goodwin, he has a physicality to him. He was so far behind the other frosh just one month ago and now he's the one playing the most. For the record, I like all of the frosh and hope they stay but he's the one I'm watching.
Goodwin was a great post-up guard and an elite rebounding guard. He had a knack for stealing the ball. The same things that he excelled at in high school, were the same things he excelled at in the A10 and the same things he excelled at in the NBA.
There was never a time where Goodwin didn't excel at those things. He could never be behind another frosh on a mid-major team because he was always that guy.
If you're saying that Warlick is the lesser version of that guy, we're on the same page. I think comparing Warlick to Luke Meyer, a jack-of-all trades small forward with P5 offer from Nebraska, is a compliment.
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2 hours ago, Crewsorlose said:
Not sure about these takes that Warlck is some kind of under-talented scrapper. He's a flat out baller. Goodwin wasn't basketball good or athletic when he came here. Just a football player with great competitive drive, although he did have really long arms. Likewise, Warlck just a player who can do everything (pass, rebound, defend, score inside, score outside) well enough.
I think I understand where you're coming from but Goodwin was a top 60 recruit and one of the greatest rebounding guards in NCAA history .
The most obvious Warlick comp is Luke Meyer. Practically the same size, great high school player, hard-nosed competitor but doesn't do anything particularly well. Those players usually become glue guys at this level.
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Just like that Dayton's in a position where they have to finish in the top of the standings just to get their at large bid status back. It takes a dominant conference season just to wipe out a blowout Q3 loss. There is no room for error.
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Some comments from the Saint Joseph's 247 message board:
"We have a team that is predicated on shooting and we have no reliable shooters. The other troubling thing tonight is that we are not passing the ball well. Very few assists. One team scouted better than the other."
"They are very well coached. Quite a change from Travis ford."
"Another Erik Miss to a SLU 3…brutal. 1-7"
"Just can’t win with Erik playing like this." There’s no end in sight for the poor shooting."
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Like that the other team's fans can see in our coach what we're seeing. Our coach knows what he's doing.
Eric Reynolds, an A10 first-teamer last year who shot 38% from three came into this game shooting 28%. That may fall to low 20s after this game. Billy needs to figure out how to get Reynolds some easy shots.
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32 minutes ago, slu72 said:
I don’t get all this interest in the NET at this point. We could go 18-0 in the A10 and that gets us where in the NET, somewhere in the 40s? That ain’t gonna get us dancing. Our only hope is to win 4 games in March in DC. Is this team capable of doing that is the question. And at this point who knows?
It's muscle memory at this point. We talk about things all the time that we know don't make any difference. Back in the day discussions at the bar were actually lower quality.
If you've got more relevant discussion topics, please feel free to post them.
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6 minutes ago, JohnnyJumpUp said:
@ Fordham February 2021....Perkins led the way with 19, Jimerson had 14 and Goodwin had a double double with 12/10
Good catch, forgot about that. Yeah, that Fordham team was more challenged offensively than this one. They only averaged 52 ppg that year.
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36 minutes ago, CenHudDude said:
Let’s hope this is the turnaround we need. When was the last ime we won by 25 or more on the road?
Probably the Claggett and Highmark days. That's the last time we had a team that was capable of scoring 80+ this easily.
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12 minutes ago, crymdg2 said:
Sh!t, when was the last time we won on the road...period
Last March at St. Bonaventure.
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So happy for Jimerson. I didn't want him to leave SLU without having an en fuego performance on the road like this.
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