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  1. 6 hours ago, ACE said:

    I think Fred was at his best as an undersized 3 - he had above average handles in that role. As a guard - below average. I wouldn't feel real good about him breaking the press for example.

    Fred was an "experienced ball handler" and much better in that role than Gibson, who you also mentioned.  Fred did bring up the ball quite often as I recall.  Was he interchangeable with Yuri? No.  Was he a solid option? Yes.  You are not giving him the credit he deserves in my opinion.......

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  2. 1 hour ago, cheeseman said:

    This is what people are saying that it is just not possible for kids today to financially work without going into debt in a big way

    Tuition is only $4500 a semester at SEMO.  Unless you're an athlete, have wealthy parents, are a scholarship winner, or getting financial aid out the rear, going to SLU makes no sense.  Work for a year and no one give a shiite who your diploma is from anyway...... 

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  3. 1 hour ago, billiken_roy said:

    i am not necessarily blaming yuri, because if ford didnt want it to happen he should have benched yuri.   but your "couldnt get anyone around him that could create their own basket" is a point that cant be proven when yuri would drive around in a circle.  stand at the head of the key dribbling in place for 10 seconds and then drive to the basket and get the impossible shot blocked.  

    meanwhile the likes of nesbitt or hargrove or parker were told to stand in the corner and wait for the 3rd or 4th option opportunity.  

    again, this is more likely on ford.  and the reason it became an issue his junior year is that it got worse each year.   yuri should have been used as a pure point guard.   not the man that would try to do it all.   i think the first two years he was.  the last two years he attempted to do everthing and imo he wasnt physically capable of doing that.  thus the animosity of the fan base who saw he was trying to be more than he should. 

    no doubt yuri was a great passer, but i think he screwed up his legacy by trying to be more than he was able to do.  

    Yuri was the best passer I've ever seen.  He's less loved than he should be due to the high jinks after his junior year and due to the lack of any post season.  His not playing in the NIT game was pretty shocking at the time and some still question it even after TheOne put it to rest.  I still think the loss of Perkins and the return of injured Perkins are much more to blame for our lack of post season than anything else.  Losing Thatch this year was also a huge loss.  Our toughness went straight into the crapper when Fred went down.     

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  4. 4 hours ago, Dr Bird said:

    I've moved on with respect to Vice.  His family situation changed and his recruiter left. 

    Let's see what we have with Zhang and perhaps 1-2 TBD transfers.

    Whether AD May says it publicly or not, CF knows this is an important year. 

    To help me get through the offseason,  I'm assuming we'll have some pleasant surprises. 

    Travis has always recruited his ass off.  I've no doubt this offseason will be any different.......

  5. 2 hours ago, SLUMedBilliken15 said:

    I don't know if this is accurate. SLU as an institution spends more on basketball than almost all the mid majors and spends more on coaching than half of the Big East schools. Money is more important than talk, and SLU is willing to pull out all the stops when it comes to basketball spending. One can argue that the spending hasn't been in the right places or on the right coach, etc. May's approach is to try to stay positive (Likely as a way to try to get more donations and keep people interested)vs Dayton's AD's approach which is to accept fault. The words ADs say and how they say them are less important than 1.) raising money and continuing to keep athletics a University spending priority (AKA increasing the basketball budget) and 2.) finding and ensuring we have the right coach. I understand arguing about May on point #2, but there are many examples of schools spending big on coaches who go on to have worse outcomes than Ford's. There is a good chance that even if Ford was fired that a new coach would have even worse results.   I also understand that we all want results, but you better believe May wants results even more than we do. 

    Well spoken sir (or written)

  6. 6 hours ago, willie said:

    Whose first? And does your wife read the board? 

    My lovely wife does not read the board but she understands the .01 second delay in grabbing her if the three of us were trapped in a burning building.......

    Dead Calm.......Nicole Kidman, sailboats, Nicole Kidman, Sam Neil, Nicole Kidman, Billy Zane, and last but not least, Nicole Kidman..........If it wasn't for the baby punching through the windshield like he was fired out of a cannon, at the beginning, it might be the best movie ever.........

  7. 14 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

    dear goslu68,

    i could possibly be in lockstep with you if Saint Louis University had maintained their academic standings nationwide over the years.   however slu continues to fall in their rankings for academics and imo it appears they are no longer close to being an elite academic institution.  maybe we are above average, but nothing as special as i felt 40+ years ago.  so i'm not sure how you can continue with this proud alumni thing you are selling in this thread.   at least at the level you are projecting.   

    yes, i am still a billiken.  as is my family.   but my wife and i were made billikens in the early 80's when academically a diploma from slu was a little more prestigious than it is now.   even my son who got his diploma 15 years ago doesnt have the same level of eliteness academically as he did back then imo.  

    so i am pretty confident, your willingness to excuse our on court mediocrity we have comfortably fell to due to the greatness of the university as a whole, isnt going to hold water with most of the billiken fandom.   and now with this new professionalism that division one college sports has opened up, it is just going to be that much tougher to accept our basketball program for what it is and it appears we are not going to play with the big boys.   it is my guess we will fall into the second category of schools being left out of most of the spoils in the future of college basketball.  

    so to review, saint louis university has fallen in academic standings tremendously over the last few decades.   and now in just the last few years our basketball program seems to have accepted mediocrity and is mocking the fan base for their support as well.  our hopes for national standings in at least basketball seem so far away now as compared to just 4-5 years ago.   

    there are no signs of either side (academically or basketball) attempting to turn the arrows back and start the climb back up towards respectability.   

    however, saint louis university does have an incredible not to be used endowment fund.   so we all have that going for us. 

    my suggestion is why not use about half of those unrestricted endowment funds to turn things around on both ends?   surely it would pay off on the education side with an increased reputation academically with more higher paying tuition students.  and on the basketball side, wouldnt more ncaa tourney points (which equals revenue) finally give us that holy grail of the big east or at least a higher ranking basketball identity?  i could accept this now watered down middling A-10 that bernadette has created if we truly were the gonzaga of the A-10.  we arent even close to such.  

      oh that's right no body uses their endowment this way.   that just wouldnt be right.  let's just keep pretending all is well and telling each other how good saint louis university is on both counts.

    Jesus Roy, get some coffee or maybe some of that legal weed.  The glass is at least half full not shattered and bloody on the bathroom floor........

    I know it's tax time but damn......

     

  8. 2 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

    Interesting comment from Mizzou Coach Gates in the PD.  We knew this was likely to happen, but it seems like a real thing.

    Until the May 11 portal deadline passes, Gates won’t know for sure how many scholarship spots are available. But for the roster mathematicians trying to calculate the team’s scholarship situation, a growing trend further clouds the picture. NCAA rules allow teams to carry a maximum of 13 scholarship players, but loopholes have emerged. Gates noted that several teams now feature scholarship-caliber players who aren’t on scholarship, subtly suggesting they’re being paid NIL income in lieu of scholarships.

    “Certain kids are qualifying for in-state tuition and some kids are now able to pay their own way,” he said. “So you can’t operate and assume that rosters are capped at 13 kids. You can’t assume that because ultimately there’s ingenuity into building rosters more than ever before.”

    Get ready for teams subbing offense for defense with two different squads......

  9. 13 minutes ago, johnbj14 said:

    I can’t believe the revisionist history with Marten right now. He was rock solid on offense and defense, only tailing off after a bad ankle injury that he dealt with the back half of his senior season. Give me a big man rotation of 3 Linssens and I’d be thrilled. 

    Agreed and I'd take him in a heartbeat over Jake or anyone else we are likely to get this summer......

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  10. 1 hour ago, gobillsgo said:

    whoa there buddy, touched a nerve?   Both Frank and Rammer campaigned for that exact thing when it looked like their pal was on the hot seat. 
     

    you probably think Oli Marmol isn’t out of his depth too…  🤣

    Honestly, I've become an October Cardinals fan.....The Bills and the mostly pathetic Dallas Cowboys are where most of my sports attention is focused.  I couldn't tell you two things about Oli other than He should've avoided the press.......

  11. 2 hours ago, slufan13 said:

    Frank said it multiple times while criticizing big donors for their attempted coup

     

    2 hours ago, brianstl said:

    Rammer said it, too.

    I'll be darned.  It is true that I'd rather listen to Yoko Ono than sports radio........missed this.....

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  12. 1 hour ago, gobillsgo said:

    So all the talk of “take the money for Ford’s buyout and invest it into NIL and see what the man can do” was just bull****??  

    Who said that other than MBMs?  I get it. Regarding Ford you are a glass is half full---of dogshit---kind of guy but c'mon.  I'll settle for the Billikens spending like the Cardinals.  If you want to follow the Yankees, be my guest...... 

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