brianstl Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Was Hinson on that show? Was the reporter who had the tape on that show? Why would SLU give a tape to a reporter? The first story was the reporter had the tape and had not shown it to Hinson yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoStBear Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 >Was Hinson on that show? Was the reporter who had the tape >on that show? Why would SLU give a tape to a reporter? The >first story was the reporter had the tape and had not shown >it to Hinson yet. SLU coaches gave the tape to Mo State. reporter saw it with one of guys from barry's staff before it was brought to Barry attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I think you guys have been punked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoStBear Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 >I think you guys have been punked. Yes. we have. that shot counted, when it should't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anynameMO Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 The report was that Barry got it from SLU which I guess is normal, have the home team tape and then share the game film so the visitors don't have to worry about taking film. SLU sent it to MSU, not a reporter. The reporter said he watched it with Barry, not gave it to him. It was a Creighton fan who said Barry was on the radio, why would he take MSU's side. Likely nothing will happen but an apology from the NCAA but I think it would only be fair to not count the loss against MSU when examining their resume. I think as long as MSU finishes top 3 in the valley they are a lock even with a loss to SLU which would be a bad loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I know that we are historically open to other peoples views but missouri state posters and other billiken trashers are getting rediculous i think we need to institute a banning policy 1st offense 24 hour 2nd offense 1 week 3rd offense 1 month 4th lifetime Or like the steroid policy 10 days then lifetime ban WHOS WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "I was on fire, I was hotter than a pistol" Jason McElwaine If theres no SLU basketball in heaven I'm not going!!!!!! Official Billikens.com Sponsor of Chris Sloan and Billiken Volleyball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoStBear Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Soderberg has appearently acknowledged this to the MVC. He said he was even surprised the call was reversed giving St Louis the win. The NCAA is looking into the evidence as we speak and since they origianlly called the game over and MSU the winner but then reversed it on bad evidence, it is still possible that even if Coach Soderberg wont forfiet that they may well declare MSU the winner. ESPN has picked up the story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOStateFan Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 http://www.springfieldnews-leader.com/apps...GS0701/61220020 I guess the Springfield News-Leader is in on the "hoax." This pretty elaborate. Not nearly as elaborate as the Scottrade Center having the clock shown on TV be .3 seconds behind the official game clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 “It shouldn’t have counted but ... we move on,†Hinson said. That's great advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anynameMO Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Where has ESPN picked up the story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Billiken Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Can anyone put a video of this up on You Tube I would love to see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majerus Magic Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Hey MoStBear, last time I checked Oklahoma was still playing for a BCS championship. I don't care how much you ***** and moan you lost. You will always be from that shithole of a town you call Springfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoStBear Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 >Can anyone put a video of this up on You Tube I would love >to see it! News-Leader.com is working on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 "I was on fire, I was hotter than a pistol" Jason McElwaine If theres no SLU basketball in heaven I'm not going!!!!!! Official Billikens.com Sponsor of Chris Sloan and Billiken Volleyball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoStBear Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 >Hey MoStBear, last time I checked Oklahoma was still playing >for a BCS championship. I don't care how much you ***** and >moan you lost. You will always be from that shithole of a >town you call Springfield. Im from St.Louis and Springfield has been named one of best cities to live in..where St.Louis has been named the worst in 2006... good day and good luck in the NIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 its 10% finished "I was on fire, I was hotter than a pistol" Jason McElwaine If theres no SLU basketball in heaven I'm not going!!!!!! Official Billikens.com Sponsor of Chris Sloan and Billiken Volleyball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 1st of all it's loss, next what makes the clock the official was looking at wrong? Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 SLU's win over this mid-major must have been important. What's next? Will Loyola or Pacific uncover missing points? Will Tennessee-Martin uncover 25 lost points? Will the game against Quincy no longer count? Note how easy it is for these opposition fans to get on this board and wreak havoc, while it is not worth the time or effort to navigate their elaborate schemes that insulate theirs. I am close to the point of saying that SLU should drop Mo. State from the schedule once and for all. The one year hiatus didn't seem to teach them. And what good will it be to go down there next year and get homered again? They are the very definition of wannabes. You couldn't find many people outside the MVC territory who even know who Missouri State is. You tell them that we beat Mo. State and they think we beat Mizzou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I believe they always go to the tv feed if that is what they have available. Show me where it is wrong Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 No, his post is right. They looked at what they had. It was even said that if the game wasn't televised, there would have been nothing to look at, but since it was ... that is what they look at. Are we to watch the entire game and change any play that shows to be a mistake by an official (if in fact this was, and I don't think it was. They looked at the tape available to them, which to my understanding is what they are suppossed to do.) Isn't the scoreboard clock the official time? If it is ... then the light going off could have been an error ... and in fact the shot was on time. Show me a replay that shows the clock they used was off from the official time. The entire argument is stupid, unless someone can show that the clock on the replay was not the sychronized with the official clock. By the way OU has only 1 loss and is playing for the National Championship ... NO Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 are you a grad of Mo St. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 If I was Hinson, I would not go on TV wearing Sally Jessie's Glasses Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Look - the NCAA Tourney Committee is not going to even remember that this game was played other than to have the final results. The NCAA will not do anything with this other than perhaps release an official letter of explanation (not an apology) - with that and $2 you can buy a Grande at Starbucks. What is ashame about this whole thing is that some have to denegrate the game and the outcome. All teams come up on the short end sometimes that is life. Brad and Barry need to simply be quiet about it and look towards the next game to make sure cooler heads prevail. The refs used the video they had available and that is all anybody can ask of them - that is why the NCAA does not need to issue an apology since nobody made a mistake. If the Scott Trade Center wants to write a letter of apology then fine it apparently was their fault not the refs. By the way, all that Ian could go by was the time on the clock that he could see so everybody was impacted in someway or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 this won't be overturned either ... ask your gym teacher Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueCop Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 RaginCajin, I am a Billiken fan but your two comments on Blake Ahearn----sarcastically referring to him as ("Golden Boy")...and bringing up the fact that (he didn't score a point) is totally out of line. Ahearn showed a lot of class when he made statements to the press after the game about how our Dwayne Polk did such a great job guarding him saying he felt like he was his "siamese twin". The "St. Louis" kid was very complimentary. I am embarrassed for you. If we played Missouri State tomorrow our strategy and focus wouldn't be any different. It would still be on Ahearn. In my opinion he's a great basketball player and he showed a lot of class. But don't worry RaginCajin, when more ignorant people are born you'll have two birthdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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