AlumniFan Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 This really hurt after leading by 12 early in the 1st half. Reggie had 22 (I think), but went cold in stretches. We missed some good, open looks and then got hurt on fouls. Overall, you can say it was a good effort, and it was, but the NCAA doesn't care about good efforts, they care about wins. I HATE LOSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StlCardinal Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Man, we should have won that one! We shut down Brown, we shut down Plavich, and we contained Withers, but we still can't pull out the W. It didn't help that Basden (i think that was his name) had a career night against us, but we should have defended him better. We had some uncharacteristic stupid turnovers, and then we just couldn't hit an outside shot to save our lives, especially in the second half. I can't remember one made 3 in the second half. This really hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Yes we could have used this one. We need to win some of these road games. We have gone from being terrible on the road the last few years to now being almost good enough. We need to take that next step and be road warriors. We gotta defend the home court and pick up 2 on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenslunatic Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 They had been getting all the calls example We GOT SCREWED fishers drive to hoop should have been called an intentional foul and the shot that went over the backboard and they said it went off us (SORRY ABOUT ANY TYPING ERRORS I HAVE A SPRAINED WRIST I AM TYPING WITH ONE HAND) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 This really hurts us. The team reamins on the road to play UAB. It will take a tremendous effort to get a win there. We almost have to win these next 2 road games to stay in the NCAA hunt. Cold shooting and a bunch of TOs is a losing equation. More than 11 TOs on the road by SLU and we will almost always lose. Gotta take care of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 withers and basden dominated the game. i dont know the final numbers, but they both probably had double doubles. our guards played fantastic imo. the game was probably lost in the first half when izik and frericks got their two fouls and had to sit. the momentum was gone. foul shots were extremely uneven, but i cant say that i thought we got hosed on the fouls from the way the game played. ian was fairly useless and his lack of foot speed really showed. last, i thought i heard scott or frank say near the end of the game that reggie was 0-7 from the 3 pt line? normally he makes 3 of those on an average night. we win the game if he does. not blaming reggie, because he found other ways to score then. but as good of a job as our guards did on their shooters, they did the same to us. the game was the forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Despite the play of their forwards, we had these guys right where we wanted them with 2 minutes to play, down 60-58. Reggie was coming around the screen to tie the game with a jumper when Drejaj inexplicably threw the ball into a crowd of three players in the paint. Charlotte got the turnover and scored on us before our defense could get set. I know Playa feels terrible about it so I'm not going to harp on it. He'll make up for that miscue somewhere on this road trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 i personally dont like it that he has been muzzled offensively. he looks somewhat confused compared to the old drejaj and it seems like he is making more mistakes. i say let him play his game. if they dont like his offense, play izik, but right now, drejaj isnt drejaj on the offensive end. also, if we were being dominated by the forward position, wouldnt it have made sense to play izik to at least match up better at the other spot? it just seems that game was lost and shouldnt have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Basden was too quick for Izik. Didn't you see the offense for defense substitution that Coach was doing with Izik/Drejaj at the end of the game? We're still a year away from addressing our perennial problem with defending quick small forwards on the perimeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Drejaj had several bad turnovers. Then there was another air ball launched from an open look. I know the guy plays defense ... but he can't guard forwards. Going small didn't help us on the defensive end and Drejaj was clearly a detriment on the offensive end. I don't get the strategy. Might coach have had a little Rich Grawer-itis yanking Izik after he dribbles the ball out of bounds in the second half and then, again, when he got beat baseline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 i agree with that, but izik was also capable of creating offense on the other end. he scored fairly easy on the few tries he actually made at the basket imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 yeah what was with the baseline thing? does soderberg preach giving the baseline? we got beat there at least 6x. i have heard other coaches preach this before, but i have never seen the merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I don't think the offense - defense mutiple switches helped tonight. It breaks up the flow offensively. Izik is killing his man on the offensive end but keeps getting yanked in the second half for a defensive substitution ... but Drejaj had his own problems when we were going 3 guard ... he can't guard a large forward. Then they tried Frericks, Varner, Sloan for awhile with Sloan guarding the 3 ... but Varner got overpowered by the opposing 4. Yes, you are right, we don't have enough athletes on the floor yet but help is on the way. Here is to hoping JJ puts on another 10 pounds of muscle in the offseason. We'll need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 1st half fouls 11-5 and they got three of theirs in the final 2-3 minutes. TF's second foul was a terrible call ... took him out of the game and they started to make the comeback. With that said we had the chance at the end and turned it over or missed an open look. TF missed another front end of a 1-1. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGB91 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 DOES ANYONE ELSE FEEL THAT JOHNSON WITH ATHLETIC ABILITY WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD FIT IN THIS GAME? JUST WONDERING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=240282429 per the box score, basden and withers outrebounded the entire billiken team by themselves, 22-21, and scored a combined 32 points. sloan had 4 points and 1 rebound, izik 6 points and 1 rebound, drejaj 4 points and 1 rebound and varner 2 points and 3 rebounds. so our players matched up against their two main forwards for the whole game had 16 points and 7 rebounds. game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trich Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I thought Fisher made that ill advised pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 >yeah what was with the baseline thing? does soderberg >preach giving the baseline? we got beat there at least 6x. >i have heard other coaches preach this before, but i have >never seen the merit. If you watch the way our guys setup on player with the ball on the wing, they shade to the middle. I can only assume some other defender is supposed to slide over and cut it off creating a two man trap against the baseline but the Charlotte bigs were strong enough to go over or through it and got lots of put backs after missing short shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 no that was drejaj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 attempts were 35 -12! i figured they were not balanced, but not that bad. and we shot 17% from the 3 line. i am wondering how we didnt get blown out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikan Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I thought that Ian gave us some effective minutes in the first half when he was matched with Iti. Obviously, he cannot guard a quickfooted forward. In fact, tom cannot do it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikan Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Varner played about as good of a game as you can expect from him, hitting a three and picking up a few big rebounds, but it would sure be nice to have a little more athleticism out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 broy, Coach Soderberg's defensive strategy is not to give up baseline drives. No baseline drives, pack the lane, overload to ballside, contest all three's, no transition baskets, dash back on defense making the opposition beat all five defensive players ..... defensive topics preached at all practice sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 You speak the truth - that's why this spring signing is so important. I don't care if the power forward the staff signs is 6'6, he just needs to be quick enough and strong enough to defend his position. Maybe Newborne is that guy. Jeff Harris did the job at 6'4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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