Duff Man

Let's talk about that 1990 MCC conf tourney loss. What the hell happened there? Grawer apologists take notes. Per the Post Dispatch (staff report, no named reporter), there were players who broke curfew but Grawer didn't discipline them and just played everybody after losing games earlier in the year after benching players http://timday.net/slu-1990-loyola.jpg Who was there? Who remembers? This is how Bonner went out. The NIT is a joke. Why did this season go so wrong?

Why are husbands running their wives purses back to the car? Just because the Cardinals adopted this non friendly policy doesn't mean we need to. What is this protecting us from? For decades though multiple wars we could bring bags in. Who made this call and why?

Mike Shildt has been hired to wear the Billiken costume at home games. He's also going to give profane locker room speeches after big wins but will remind everyone to put away their phones first.

Roy it was aimed at the entire thread mostly misspelling Shildt (including the original poster) not just you.

For the love of Gus Phillips... Joe Maddon with an O. Mike Shildt without a C. Madden is 85 and hasn't coached since 1978 and he's never had a baseball job.

Skip Schumaker won a World Series as a player in 2011. He drove in the only run in the Carpenter/Halladay NLDS game 5 duel. I would prefer Schumaker to another internal promotion. He had a long career as a role player (as have most good MLB managers) and has been part of playoff runs on other teams both as a player and coach. I do think ultimately Mozeliak runs the organization in order to be perpetually competitive but doesn't make the moves necessary to win the World Series and he doesn't appreciate a manager who challenges his authority even if that dynamic is a necessary component to win (the 2011 Cardinals don't win the WS if TLR doesn't go over Mo's head and get DeWitt to force Mo to trade Rasmus)

The only way STL ends up with a team (plus stadium) is if the judgement/damages are so extreme ($5-10B) to the point that Kroenke defaults on his indemnification contract with the other owners...leaving them to hold the bag and willing to offer a team plus X billion dollars for stadium/facilities as a means to end the ordeal. The magnitude of the damages hinges on whether the increased value of the franchise as a result of the move are recoverable damages and/or are factored into the punitive damages. It's not impossible but it's a long shot and many developments away in an absolute best case scenario. My prediction is that the NFL and the Rams are humiliated in court and after many years of appeals the Kroenke estate pays STL and the lawyers $1-3B in damages.

That's Roy in the corner. That's Roy in the spotlight. Losing his religion.

The SLRCSCA or CVC or whatever is funded by the City and County, who are co-plaintiffs. I'm sure it'll be like the Simpsons trying to figure out how to spend the oil money (won't somebody please think of the children) when it comes to how to spend it, and I don't necessarily have confidence it will be spent well...but I just think if we're using it for a new stadium, we need a partner (a team) who is willing to help maintain it. https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/RamsNFL.pdf

The Dome will be paid off by the time the settlement is reached (or damages enforced). The owners can't just make Stan settle nor can they make the STL lawyers accept a settlement. If the owners know they are going to lose, surely the STL lawyers know they are going to win, so why settle unless the amount is greater than what think they can win. Why the owners include a permanent cut of their TV revenue in the settlement? So you didn't quit the NFL when Stan crapped on our city on his way out the door in 2016 but the final straw was African American players protesting police brutality? Gotcha.

I'm sure there is some truth to the argument that the Rams made it harder for the Dome to book events in the 2nd half of the year. That said, you start the year with 10 events already booked. In a normal lease situation - which I know we didn't have because we built a stadium without a tenant and had no leverage in negotiations with the Rams in 1994 - but in a normal lease situation the flagship tenant is on the hook for some of the maintenance/operating overhead. How many weeks a year is your 50k retractable roof going to have events? How many of those events would have gone to Enterprise or the Dome (or the MLS stadium) had the new venue not existed? How many other cities have a 50k+ retractable roof stadium without a sports team that plays their home games there? Now, if you can guarantee that we're going to get the Final 4 every so many years, and Wrestlemania so many years, and USMNT/USWNT World Cup qualifiers so many years, and it's built somewhere that will actually enhance downtown and not just cannibalize from other venues...then maybe it would be a good idea... It just seems like there would be better ways to spend the money that would benefit the region 52 weeks a year.

re: St Louis getting a team I think going back a few years, when it became clear the LA Chargers were a problem in terms of generating so much less revenue than anyone else, combined with the STL lawsuit becoming a bigger threat, there was some "fixer" talk within NFL circles that couldn't we just solve both problems by moving the Chargers to St Louis? Spanos has no incentive to move. He's got a sweet lease in Stan's stadium. They can't make the Spanos move. They can't make him sell. Even if they could, who would be willing to step up and buy the team and own them in St Louis? It would need to be someone who already has a ton of credibility in St Louis and many billions of dollars and someone the owners would accept into their club. Expansion talk is also an extreme longshot for many of the same reasons. STL (if they win) will get a lump cash payment, not a team or any kind of perpetual cut of revenue. The reason the lawsuit is such a problem is that it's exposing that the NFL doesn't follow it's own relocation guidelines - which normally a private institutions guidelines would be far less important than a binding lease between a regional authority and a sports team...but the issue is that the relocation guidelines are part of the grand bargain decades ago that allows the NFL to maintain it's antitrust exemption. I'm not a legal scholar but my understanding is that damages are tripled in anti trust cases. re: The owners will just settle Easier said than done. Realize the only way the STL lawyers would settle is if the offer is greater than what they think they're going to win in trial (multiplied by their confidence factor that they will prevail). Stan is on the hook for it all anyway - so presumably he's the one who would have to settle. re: Building a stadium with the settlement money Don't build a stadium without a flagship tenant. That's what got us into this mess in the first place. We're not going to build a retractable roof 50k stadium to host Final Fours once every decade and the occasional soccer game that won't be as intimate as the venue a few blocks away.

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Pitbull will always be cool in 2 places: New commit threads on Billikens.com and within the mind of Ken Strode

Condolences for the family. Reality check for everyone else. Awful awful awful news, but if nothing else hug your loved ones and appreciate what you have, here and now. Tomorrow is promised to no one.

Sekeue Barentine was good at 2 things: -busting his ass down the floor for the occasional easy bucket -inducing lane violations with his quadruple clutch FT attempts

Add Oral Roberts to the ever growing list of 80s era MCC teams that have advanced to the Sweet 16 ahead of SLU. Best finish in parentheses. Xavier (2x Elite Eight) Marquette (Final 4) Butler (2x National Runner up) Dayton (Elite Eight) Loyola (Final Four) Oral Roberts

The casino story was a smokescreen. There were reports from individuals that Carlos Martinez was at the Wheelhouse right before they got shut down the first time for not following protocols - and this was before anyone knew who tested positive or how much it would derail the season. Wainwright was out there in PR mode dismissing the casino story - but nobody in the media ever really dug into Carlos Martinez (and others?) clubbing activities leading to the team getting infected. Don't blame Gardner for having the audacity to call attention to it after we've never been given an adequate explanation for how the team got so infected after being so careful. At least Gardner had the sense to wait until after Selection Sunday so it would not be perhaps used against them by the committee.

I thought I qualified my statement but reading comprehension is hard I guess. I'm not holding the first 2 years against Ford, just stating a fact that in 5 years not once has he had the team in a good spot for an at large bid.

They were not in line for an at-large bid in 19-20 before the pandemic hit. I like Ford and he's had to endure a lot of BS that's out of his control. The program/roster is in a good spot heading into next year. That said, his record is what it is. He's 0 for 5 having his team in a good spot to earn an at large bid.

Ford is a good fit for the program and the program is a good fit for him. If/when he starts making deep NCAA runs, there will naturally be suitors from the power conferences, but he's been there and he knows how tough it is to meet the expectations year in year out. He also knows he'll basically have a job for life here should he have that kind of success. He may one day leave but it would take a dream job opportunity. We should appreciate him, not take him for granted, but also not lose sleep over rumors/chatter about him moving/leaving.

Here's that list re-ordered with made FG factored in, ranked by Ratio of FG + A to Turnovers - providing a bit more context for positives (made FG and assists) vs turnovers. Player FG A TO A/TO FG/TO (FG+A)/TO Claggett 657 347 246 1.411 2.671 4.081 Waldman 189 295 120 2.458 1.575 4.033 Ellis 329 99 107 0.925 3.075 4.000 Douglass 766 279 267 1.045 2.869 3.914 Bess 300 136 112 1.214 2.679 3.893 Gray 694 279 250 1.116 2.776 3.892 McCall 413 339 197 1.721 2.096 3.817 Cobbin 365 143 135 1.059 2.704 3.763 Lisch 516 325 224 1.451 2.304 3.754 Cassity 234 320 148 2.162 1.581 3.743 Dobbs 376 125 137 0.912 2.745 3.657 Roder 158 353 144 2.451 1.097 3.549 Crawford 327 144 136 1.059 2.404 3.463 Mitchell 547 420 280 1.500 1.954 3.454 Bonner 774 265 316 0.839 2.449 3.288 Goodwin 490 353 265 1.332 1.849 3.181 Highmark 549 245 251 0.976 2.187 3.163 Willie 273 33 97 0.340 2.814 3.155 French 464 187 209 0.895 2.220 3.115 Burden 533 219 244 0.898 2.184 3.082 Pee Wee 233 370 199 1.859 1.171 3.030 Sloan 231 155 129 1.202 1.791 2.992 Jett 453 422 295 1.431 1.536 2.966 Newberry 267 424 234 1.812 1.141 2.953 Fisher 324 436 262 1.664 1.237 2.901 Evans 543 126 232 0.543 2.341 2.884 Loe 342 153 174 0.879 1.966 2.845 Roby 345 281 224 1.254 1.540 2.795 Liddell 567 313 317 0.987 1.789 2.776 Walker 217 350 206 1.699 1.053 2.752 Burns 399 229 229 1.000 1.742 2.742 Collins 76 229 113 2.027 0.673 2.699 Love 307 122 164 0.744 1.872 2.616 Perry 471 343 325 1.055 1.449 2.505 Conklin 404 105 206 0.510 1.961 2.471 Hughes 224 77 122 0.631 1.836 2.467 Drejaj 273 272 221 1.231 1.235 2.466 Vouyoukas 376 123 204 0.603 1.843 2.446 Henderson 336 89 183 0.486 1.836 2.322 McCauley 158 257 183 1.404 0.863 2.268 LaTodd 180 401 338 1.186 0.533 1.719