aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Admittedly, I've been stubborn in my assertion of the Bills' lack of talent. However, I must admit to being impressed with their latest string of games. While I recognize the brilliance of Soderberg and the fantastic defense they play, I've underestimated Fisher, Frericks and Ohanon. Now that we've seen the Bills play three straight solid road games, I'm beginning to revise my assessment of this team. Bryant and Fisher have shown the ability to penetrate and drive off the dribble. Then you have the improved interior play of Frericks and Ohanon in the post and you have the ingredients to win on the road. Who knows this might be the best team in Missouri and who would have thought that? Though, I predict an upset win of Syracuse Monday night now that McKinney is at his natural 2 guard position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Bet any money on that Syracuse game. I don't think the Cuse has lost since UNCC beat them on opening night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 I'm probably speaking more from the heart than the head. Cuse's 2-3 zone is tailormade to frustrate Quin's team. However, I'm hoping Pulley proves me wrong and plays a sound floor game that involves feeding the post, while limiting the turnovers. He didn't impress me today, but I'm hoping he'll get his act together on Big Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdog Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Sorry AJ, Pulley is a joke and will not make them a better team. Also, as long as you are admitting underestimating SLU players, admit that you underestimated Reggie Bryant as well. 25 points again tonight, the Bills haven't had a scorer like him in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 I was only going on second-hand information with him. I was concerned because a previous coach said that Bryant couldn't play defense, which Brad confirmed. However, I did underestimate the value of Brad's teachings which has gradually improved Bryant's defense over the course of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 reggie has long since passed erwin claggett on all time billikens list to compare his game to. after that drive to the basket last night, he is approaching justin love or maurice jeffers game imo. he isnt as strong as justin or close to the leaper mo was, but he is a better shooter than either by far. and both justin and maurice were good shooters. bryant is a player. probably going to be an nba player if he continues to improve for the next year and a half. i am just baffled the villanova people let him get away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 The fact that Reggie was a sixth man at Villanova and is a star here just goes to show where our talent level is right now. Man, if only we could have Polk playing with Bryant for more than one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 The only thing holding him back is size. Right now, he'll have to play the point at the next level. With ballhandling skills which are much better than advertised, I think it's a possibility. He could be a Jason Terry type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 The more I think about it, I just think there was a personality conflict between the player and the coach. It was good that Bryant transferred out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 jason terry is a good description of reggie's game. thank you. i will use that as i have been racking my brain thinking of the comparison player. aj, i tend to agree with you on "personality conflict" with reggie and villanova. he is a better player than any guard they have playing rignt how imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 I never heard anyone in St. Louis question Bryant's ballhandling skills. Was that information from a Villanova fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markedman Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Just curious.How high was Bryant rated coming out of high school? Do you guys have any other current players that were top 100 guys coming out of high school? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 I would call Reggie a combo of Erwin and Marque ... not as much range as a shooter as Erwin had ... but better to the hole. Not as good to the hole as Marque ... but a much better shooter. This makes him very hard to stop as he can do either well. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 though he never said that Reggie couldn't dribble. He just said that Reggie was more of a spot-up shooter, but not as good off the dribble as Perry. Maybe I read too much into his comments because Marque Perry's off the dribble moves are top-shelf. But other than that, no one has questioned Reggie's ballhandling skills. I was just saying his ballhandling skills are very good, much better than anything Mizzou has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcglotherirvin Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 A win for Missouri against Syracuse should not be considered an upset. Based upon the Sagarin ratings, in which Missouri is today one spot ahead of SLU, the game on Monday should show a tossup or a one point advantage to Missouri. If Missouri does not win that game, I would consider its' position desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 that has Syracuse and Mizzou being in a virtual tie needs to be totally ignored. The link provided by Roy, www.kenpom.com has Syracuse ranked 27th and Mizzou 74th. Syracuse is nationally ranked and Mizzou is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 http://www.kenpom.com/cbbsked.php?a=171 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 is wrong. I should have questioned that Syracuse and Mizzou would have similar rankings. They do not. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkt0304.htm In fact, Mizzou is ONLY one spot ahead of SLU at 73. Syracuse is at 44. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 At this time of the year, the Sagarin rankings, with all teams connected, is uncanny in predicting the outcome, and frequently the point spread. With a 4.5 point home court advantage, Missouri becomes a one point favorite in the game. It is a must win for Missouri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted January 11, 2004 Author Share Posted January 11, 2004 I thought he was saying Syracuse and Mizzou had similar rankings, but you're talking about a point spread. Trust me if Mizzou wins, everyone will call it an upset regardless of point spreads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 and yes they can be confusing. The pure RPI (no point spread) has SLU at 103, Mizzou at 74 and Syracuse at 27. From the same site you can find the Pomeroy rankings which only considers margin of victory/defeat. In that one SLU is 76, Mizzou is 60 and Syracuse is 38. Sagarin has SLU at 74, Mizzou at 73 and Syracuse at 44. To call any one sight incorrect would be a mistake as they are all different. However, if I was trying to decide how much team A should be favored over team B should they play the last sight I would look at is the RPI which doesn't include margin of victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 if Mizzou is favored over Syracuse how can it be considered an upset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 oh i think he has every bit as much range as claggett had. he hit a couple last night that were nba 3's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickdraw Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 But still, Erwin had that great shake-and-bake. He could be well covered, yet jiggle himself about 2 feet away from the defender and get a bomb off. Of course, we had a lot more games to watch Claggett than we've had with Reggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 the great turn around jumper from the head of the key vs cincy in claggett's junior year will forever be etched in my mind as the turning point of the billikens under spoon. and yes, he had no trouble getting his own shot. but i have not seen reggie have any trouble getting a shot either. that jab step in and then step back and pop move he uses is deadly and lets him see the rim at will as well. if we are picking fantasy teams, i'll take reggie as my shooter over erwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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