tseugnekillib Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I believe that today Bonner, one of my all-time favorites, might be ancient history to 80% of the current metro area high school players. Would Bonner be a possible replacement for Floyd Irons, if Irons stayed on the administrative side of Vashon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 If some alumni folks want to help Brad with his recruiting they should concentrate on finding someone to pickup the naming rights to the new on-campus arena. I believe Brad could easily find his own assistant, if and when one is needed. (Perhaps Beane will be the next head oach at SEMO.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Denny, I talk to young inner city kids all the time ... they know who Bonner is and everyone loves him ... I can talk about Billiken basketball with people ... nothing, but if I bring up AB ... everyone has something good to say. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 AB was at the game today ... sitting most of it with Scotty H, behind the goal the Bills shoot at in the second half Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 he was at humphrey's again and rode the shuttle home. none of the assistants we have are even close to "big name" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 If "big name" assistants are the answer.....why not have three of them? I wonder if Gonzaga or St. Joes or Xavier or Creighton (all highly successful Jesuit schools) have former players as "big name" assistants. I don't know, just wondering how those schools staffs are built. I believe AB could do SLU more good, and hundreds of kids more good, following Coach Irons at Vashon, and coaching with the St. Louis Eagles AAU team in the Summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Leave Irons out of it - he won't stop a kid from coming to SLU if the kid wants to come, Polk and Kern as examples. If AB wants 6 figures to coach at SLU but is also willing to take a high school gig - he is in for a rude awakening. High school coaches do not make 6 figures - and they have to teach all day and then coach. Not knowing AB's situation, it is hard to know what he really wants or needs. He would be a great asset to the program if it could be worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalensdad2002 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I talk to young inner city kids all the time ... they know who Bonner is and everyone loves him ... I can talk about Billiken basketball with people ... nothing, but if I bring up AB ... everyone has something good to say. I think that is due in large part to the Anthony Bonner League. All the top kids in Metro-St Louis compete in that league, I can only see positives in relation to AB being involved with SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I agree ... most probably don't know that he played at SLU ... or much about SLU basketball ... but as I said, they know AB and that he played in the NBA ... and I also think that is due to the summer league ... and just the way he is so accessible to everyone. Even if they don't know him they know the league and if it is named after him, he is somebody Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Then BROY welcome to college sports! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I spoke with Bonner after last nights game. I said something like I hope we can get your to work with our big guys. He said hopefully next year. To respond to the backward fellow's question a lot of high profile schools like Duke use former players as assistant coaches. As long as he wants to put in the work I think Bonner would be a natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Why do you pretend you are "in the know" ... I always wonder why some of you guys who post on here as if you are on the inside ... or have been on the inside ... don't just come out with who you are. Your username suggests you are Doug Woolard and you have insinuated you were on the inside previously ... but anyone who really was ... would not come on here and admit that they and others committ minor violations knowingly all the time ... Save it ... I don't think anyone is impressed. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 just like sppon jr at mizzery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Jalensdad, good point on the Bonner League keeping AB's name out front. I wonder if an assistant coach can fund an amateur league that includes top high school players? The NCAA may not like that idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Majerus Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Time for the Nelly league or Hughes league... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I was aware that Duke had Tommy A, Quin, Wojo, etc., as past and present assistants at Duke. I was just thinking of other comparable Jesuit schools. Hey, if (1) Soderberg wants Bonner on his staff someday and (2) if Bonner wants the college coaching life .......great! My stomach gets a little nervous when I hear BillikenCharlie say something to the effect that "some alumni want to bring in a big name recruiting assistant"! Soderberg needs help with the fund raising, but not with making personnel appointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 You would be suprised who I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 That is are job to help fundraising not BRADS. ALl of us need to start donating money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Two things - first if Brad resists hiring AB - not saying his is or would - then it might cause him to loose favor in the area for local recruits - just a thought. Second, I have donated to the program and the arena fund in the past but right now, there does not seem to be an overall direction on the project - I know Cherly is working on one since the one Woolard had was a bust and I think I read she was going to the Board of Directors of SLU to share it in Feb. sometime. Once we know what is happening, I as well as others can and will start donating again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcglotherirvin Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 billiken charlie - what exactly is a "big name" assistant. please name one for me besides some of the duke assistants. that is kind of a ridiculous statement that maybe only makes sense when you're riding a shuttle to the game and have already kicked back some brew-has. please, also let us know who you're strong alumni connection is with. you've been referring to this for some time now and its obvious you're waiting to drop a name. btw, i think our current assistants are doing a fine job - liddell lisch and polk will be a great trio - better than we've had in years. the past few classes have been tough, but i don't think any blame can be placed on assistants. the problem has come from going after kids who can't get in and then scrambling last minute. can blame brad for taking the risk or the NCAA for handcuffing a good school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 actually, other than duke, i dont know off the top of my head any school that regularly uses alum and big names for their assistants. not saying the following pertains to anthony bonner. and definitely not saying i dont want anthony bonner as an assistant, but think about the road trips, the hours, the scenarios that an assistant puts themselves through. now if you have made millions playing pro and european basketball, does it all seem worth it? yet you have some struggling assistant that played a support role in college if he played at all, and came through the ranks inching his way to the top and earning his promotions just dying for a chance. most of the assistants fall under that category not the fancy suits and fast cars scenario. as to making a splash for the benefit of the recruits, dont forget that summer basketball has changed everything. the top recruits have been wined, dined, gifted so much, they wouldnt care if a bit if a former pro player came up and stuck out his hand. in fact, they would probably be more apt to disrespect the legend than be in awe. i remember drexler being asked a similar question one time about his fame making a difference. he said something to the effect most of the recruits think they can beat me in one on one, they dont care who i am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 In response to Billiken Roy, maybe AB would be a "midwest" recruiter. In response to other posts. I would not consider anthony beane a big name assistant. You're all going to hate this, but I would consider Mizzou having, is it 3 former D1 head coaches, having "big name" assistants. Cameron Dollar, a player that westcoast kids can identify with, is a "big name" assistant for washington. KU has "big name" assistants. I don't feel that area highschool players can relate or would be more intrigued by our current assistants/recruiters than they would with Bonner. If Bonner was signed by USC as an assistant that wouldn't be a "big name" for them. But if he was an assistant for SLU that would be a big name to the talent here. Does that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 If one of the current assistants had to be pushed out to make room for AB, that would be a tough thing to do to someone. Would he be willing to take the graduate assistant slot until a full assistant position opens up? If so, it's a no brainer. Here's the deal. Perception is reality not only in college basketball but, sadely, in much of life. AB adds credibility to Brad and the program. Right now, the Bills have really not done much. When was the last time we went to the NCAA? I'm not faulting Brad here (just being real). As a for instance, take AB going onto to local radio to tell the meat heads that Brad is a great coach, give him time and he'll turn it around. The meat heads nod in agreement and say "yes AB". What is our most pressing need right now? A big who can actually score! Having AB on the staff immediately raises our chances in landing bigs locally and regionally. It's still Brad's show. AB is an asset to help the overall program. Having AB would also help energize the alumni. Alumni confidence and enthusiasm for the program is flagging at very critical juncture. I only see pluses. What exactly are the negatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 You are very right ... I am sure I would be Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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