prebilliken Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Props to BillikenFan05 for that great Jordair clip. I still think he could get a glass of water in the Association as a defensive specialist... Like Patrick Beverly sans jumpshot... And by "he" I mean Jett, no offense 05. Anyways, I clicked on the link which took me to the NBL's twitter page and who did I see in one of the first posts? Yet another Billiken! Kevin Lisch! No less Kevin Lisch in an odd take on the famous Shepard Ferry Obama '08 "Hope" poster... Which caused me to think, with so many prominent Billiken Alumni playing in Australia, what is keeping us from opening a healthy pipeline to recruit down under? Why don't we mobilize such a force? Now there is a disclaimer to this question: Such a request would assume that SLU currently has a coach with energy enough of capably recruiting at the D1 level... Furthermore, it would assume we have a sentient human being capable of asking abstract questions as our Athletic Director, not a lifeless bag of leaves magically able speak to speak but other wise show no other human displays of intelligence... BUT assuming we have those things soon, shouldn't this be a reasonable expectatio Oh Kevin, you gave me hope once. Miss you. https://twitter.com/TheBarrow/status/699538365176090624 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 -I'll take good players from any and all places, jeez there are how many good players in the area one could see on one tank of gas? -Rick had a name and connections in Oz, unless the next coach or their assistants have the same, it will be tough to get the next Cody or Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 -I'll take good players from any and all places, jeez there are how many good players in the area one could see on one tank of gas? -Rick had a name and connections in Oz, unless the next coach or their assistants have the same, it will be tough to get the next Cody or Rob Two Bills have been MVP of this league in the past 5 years. The ground game is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 Two Bills have been MVP of this league in the past 5 years. The ground game is there. So let me elaborate on this... And my frustrations... -Two Billikens have been MVP's of the NBL in Australia over the past 5 years, there are numerous other Bills in the league. -It is unreasonable to expect Professional Players, in the midst of their career, to carry out recruiting duties... No doubt. -An athletic department should note this current situation and see an opportunity to create a recruiting pipeline. -Have an Assistant Coach, one already familiar with the recruiting process, perhaps an Aussie himself, dedicate himself to Aussie recruiting, or Oceanic recruiting, or international recruiting... -On those trips, link in your former players, have them reach out to the recruits, espouse the virtues of the Billiken family. I'm not saying we get the next Ben Simmons, but what of the next Dellavedova? Or Rob? Or Cody? Plus, we want to foster relationships with our old players, that's what HEALTHY basketball programs do. THIS IS LOW HANGING FRUIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I've heard Steve Lavin has ties to Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 So let me elaborate on this... And my frustrations... -Two Billikens have been MVP's of the NBL in Australia over the past 5 years, there are numerous other Bills in the league. -It is unreasonable to expect Professional Players, in the midst of their career, to carry out recruiting duties... No doubt. -An athletic department should note this current situation and see an opportunity to create a recruiting pipeline. -Have an Assistant Coach, one already familiar with the recruiting process, perhaps an Aussie himself, dedicate himself to Aussie recruiting, or Oceanic recruiting, or international recruiting... -On those trips, link in your former players, have them reach out to the recruits, espouse the virtues of the Billiken family. I'm not saying we get the next Ben Simmons, but what of the next Dellavedova? Or Rob? Or Cody? Plus, we want to foster relationships with our old players, that's what HEALTHY basketball programs do. THIS IS LOW HANGING FRUIT. I don't know all the NCAA rules on recruiting but I would think having any past players do recruiting would be a violation - they would be considered boosters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 I don't know all the NCAA rules on recruiting but I would think having any past players do recruiting would be a violation - they would be considered boosters. Hey Cheese, hope you're well. I thought that they could meet at occasions arranged and under supervision of the school... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 All three former Bills have won MVPs--Lisch in '12, Conklin in '15, and Jett in '16. Almost-Bill Rotnei Clarke was in there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 All three former Bills have won MVPs--Lisch in '12, Conklin in '15, and Jett in '16. Almost-Bill Rotnei Clarke was in there too. Jett only won his team MVP, Lisch and Conklin were league MVPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I've heard Steve Lavin has ties to Australia. Why hasn't this man been hired yet? #CrewsFiredLavinHired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Kevin won his 2nd League MVP today/last night and NBL Defensive Player of the Year. Congrats! http://www.hawks.com.au/featured-news/nbl-awards-kevin-lisch-nbl-mvp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David King Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 What are the salaries like in Australia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hey Cheese, hope you're well. I thought that they could meet at occasions arranged and under supervision of the school... Now I have to figure out who you are . You may be right about the situation you lay out - I know the rules are very tight but how would the school supervise this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Now I have to figure out who you are . You may be right about the situation you lay out - I know the rules are very tight but how would the school supervise this? Maybe YOU'RE not who I thought you are... I had a buddy in College we called Cheese. My last name is in my user name so if you can't figure it out I guess I was the one that was mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Kevin won his 2nd League MVP today/last night and NBL Defensive Player of the Year. Congrats! http://www.hawks.com.au/featured-news/nbl-awards-kevin-lisch-nbl-mvp He'd make a great head coach one day. The great Billiken savior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Maybe YOU'RE not who I thought you are... I had a buddy in College we called Cheese. My last name is in my user name so if you can't figure it out I guess I was the one that was mistaken. You are right I am not who you think I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Jett only won his team MVP, Lisch and Conklin were league MVPs Huh. Pretty nice trophy for just a team MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Crikey Mates! The answer is right in front of you. Benjamin Lisch, will play for the Billikens in 2032. Both mom and dad are professional basketball players. G'day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 I think its a dire sign of how little faith we have in the athletic department that setting up a scouting program Down Under is some impossible feat on the level of having a football program with the CFB Playoffs.May has lowered expectations to incredible depths of sorrow. Cheeseman- Sorry for the mistaken identity. I still wish you well though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I think its a dire sign of how little faith we have in the athletic department that setting up a scouting program Down Under is some impossible feat on the level of having a football program with the CFB Playoffs. May has lowered expectations to incredible depths of sorrow. Cheeseman- Sorry for the mistaken identity. I still wish you well though! I think you would have to give up one of your coaches here to name one down there. When RM was recruiting down there he had a coach from there who traveled there on a regular basis and still had duties back here. I did not mean they could not figure it out just that thinking all it would take is asking KL or JJ or CE to start recruiting would not be how it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 I think you would have to give up one of your coaches here to name one down there. When RM was recruiting down there he had a coach from there who traveled there on a regular basis and still had duties back here. I did not mean they could not figure it out just that thinking all it would take is asking KL or JJ or CE to start recruiting would not be how it would work. For sure. They are the sweetener in the situation though. It just truly bothers me that we have this alumni base, if you will, and no effort down there. It seems like low hanging fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 For sure. They are the sweetener in the situation though. It just truly bothers me that we have this alumni base, if you will, and no effort down there. It seems like low hanging fruit. Well, even though Australia is a rather large country, I'm sure three alumni can cover it just as easily as a U.S. city or state! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 For sure. They are the sweetener in the situation though. It just truly bothers me that we have this alumni base, if you will, and no effort down there. It seems like low hanging fruit. Sometimes things aren't always as they seem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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