billiken_roy Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 according to frank c this morning, the eagles held tryouts this past weekend. the first two practices no lisch. (doesnt surprise me) on sunday, kevin walks in, dominates the rest of the tryouts. the coaches pick kevin for the team, and then kevin politely declines the appointment and goes home. just wanted to see if he could beat the competition i guess. fine with me. the less the big boys know about him the better. frank said that his sources say that kevin will visit notre dame and illinois and then pick from the three schools. frank is betting on slu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 broy, I heard in early March that Belleville West's Arthur Sargent (sp?) was going to play for the Eagles. The Eagles may have tryouts, but several players make the team before the first practice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Frank also predicted that Grimes would pick SLU. I sure hope he's right this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Roy, The Eagles tryouts were more than two weeks ago -- the same weekend as the Missouri Class 4 and 5 final four. I was there for the Sunday session with the U-17 age group -- Frank was not there as far as I could tell -- and I wouldn't say Kevin Lisch dominated the kids there. He looked good, but to be honest, I expected more out of him. Arthur Sargent looked really good. He was knocking down shots from all over the floor. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 B' roy didn't you say one time his dad didn't want him playing AAU ball due to the "street" form of ball they play? I agree let him be a stealth fighter...off the radar screens of all the biggies. Good to see he's competitive enough though to go up against them. Never having seen him play would appreciate it if you guys could compare him to some of today's players nationwide. For example, is he a JJ Reddick type of guard? Also, what are his major strengths and where does he need work to be a real contributor at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 The only thing missing from this story is a little boy standing by the gym door yelling "Shane, come back!" Rusty's boy is truly the fastest gun in the west :7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I've heard he's a Travis Diener type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 Nate, is Sargent going to play football in college or he is focusing soley on basketball now? He, Dane Brumagin and Lisch are probably the best three shooters in St. Louis's 2005 class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 i would say he is a gerry mcnamarra that has the physical strength to go inside as well. or you could say he is a chris thomas that plays josh fisher defense. i do not compare him to deiner because deiner is so physically weak compared to the strong lisch. offense results would be the same though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 the thing that surprised and disappointed me about sargent this winter was his non-slashing. he seemed content to sit in the corner and wait for the kick out from jb jones or from a sean mcpeak rebound. arthur jumps with the best of them and should have used that athleticism more than he did. of course with all the weapons that west had this year, it is very possible that coach schmidt wanted him to just sit out in the corner and wait for ducks to come his way. i think arthur needs to develop that dribble a little bit to be considered big time. everything else about him though is already there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 jujst posting what frank said. regardless, the kid walked away from the big lights and big city show. gotta like that moxie. doesnt need it or want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I really like the way Gerry McNamara plays ball for the Orangemen, and if we can get Kevin Lisch and he is as good as McNamara then we really would have something IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 What is his height/weight and position for this out of town fan??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 he is about 6'5" and about 190 lbs. think about the build and size of the billiken version of larry hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I agree with you about Sargent sitting in the corner waiting for the ball. That's how I will remember him from the times I saw him this season. I have never talked to Sargent about the football/basketball question, so I don't know what he wants to do in college. Lisch is supposed to go to the Nike Camp in Indianapolis this summer, so if he plays well he won't be a secret to anyone. But it will probably be too late at that point for other schools to start pursuing him. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 nate said, "Lisch is supposed to go to the Nike Camp in Indianapolis this summer, so if he plays well he won't be a secret to anyone. But it will probably be too late at that point for other schools to start pursuing him." that is what i am hoping for. i hope he gets these trips to champaign and south bend out of the way and vebals to slu asap. all we need is for tubby smith or coach k to come around belittling his billiken thoughts and giving him doubts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 BRoy, From what you have mentioned on the board, Kevin seems like a level headed and well grounded kid and may not be easily BS'd by anyone trying to knock SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 true, but the likes of tubby smith, coach k, bill self, roy williams, etc are not normal human's either. sharks. any of us would have a hard time standing up to the likes let alone a 17 year old kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUNATE Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 any word on a possible juco transfer for the final scholarship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfunk Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 No offense, but both of those schools have much better basketball programs than any local schools (MIZZOU, slu, siu, Illinois) do. Also, Duke's academic reputation is also top notch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 No, I did not write that an offer from Duke would be BS...what I did write was perhaps the kid was intelligent enough to see thru the BS if someone from one of the top schools BRoy mentioned bad mouthed SLU. Now in my book that's a whole lot different...what you skipped the reading comprehension taught at SPUMAC or did you take the correspondence course version??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfunk Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Do you actually think that some kid could only choose duke/kentucky over slu b/c the schools knocked SLU? At Duke and UK you play for National Titles every year on the nations biggest stage. At slu you play in a much lesser conference and may struggle to make an impact on a national level. Staying close to home can be a major factor in choosing his college, but major national attention may open his eyes to all of the possibilities he has in front of him. I love how you have to resort to pointless and baseless personal attacks to try and get your point across. It clear that you're not clever enough to make persuasive remarks without trying to insult me. Your education obviously paid off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 yeah, the duke sociology correspondence course that jayson williams got thru in two and half years while playing basketball year round has to be a dandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfunk Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 ARe you saying that SLU doesn't have any easy majors or classes? That kind of crap goes on everywhere whether we like it or not. The point was that if an athlete wants to take his education seriously, Duke is not a bad place to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachstyles Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 the local kids who are going to elite camps this year that underclassmen are dustin maguire at the ABCD adidas camp.alex tyus and jared leonard at the nike hoop jamboree. Also kyle kirk from kickapoo will be attending the jamboree. Imo coach cant wait to not try to get an advantage on the local talent asap. He did a great job with lisch, hopefully he will do the same with this talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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