moytoy12 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 My grade is based on what i have heard about the players, watched on youtube and how i see the players filling holes. The class may even deserve an "A" as is, but it will definitely be an "A+" if we land Suggs or another high quality player. I have never been this excited about a recruiting class coming to SLU and it's only June of 2007! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 the hughes, tatum, baniak, henrich class was more exciting simply because hughes was a world class top 5 recruit plus other perfect support cast players. suggs is a fabulous talent, but by all accounts he isnt a top 10 player like larry was. but i would have given the hughes class an A+. this one is pretty darn close to that if a suggs comes in as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I gave it a B. I think there is a lot of talent here, but to give it an A we need the big time recruit. If I was giving it a grade compared to past Billiken classes it would be an A Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Great compared to Soderberg's past recruits, but a "B" if you look at national scope. Need a big time big man or a top 25-50 to get to an "A-". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 we already have two big men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 If you rate it on what RM has accomplished in a short time and much of it in a dead period, it is a solid A. If you rate it by what is being accomplished nationally by other programs it is a B and maybe a B-. As it stands right now it is not a top 40 type class. I don't see how you can give anyone outside of the top 40 a grade higher than a B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 In the last 35 years, I would peg this class at the third best. Hughes' class is by far the best, as Baniak and Heinrich had better high school resumes than Reed and Thompson. Second would be the Claggett/Highmark/Winfield/Grant/left-handed UMSL transfer out that led to our first NCAA win in their junior year. Fourth through eighth would be a dogfight with the classes led by Roland Gray, Anthony Bonner, Jimmie Irving, and Harry Rogers contending for rank. As far as the letter grade, with regard for the timeline, it's an A-. With regard to the future, I fully expect this staff to sign no one lower than a three star in future classes, unless it is someone who flies under the radar, like Lisch did by not playing AAU. We are musch better situated than RM was in Utah, so we should see a better basement level of talent coming in every year than he had at Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I would put the Clagget/Highmark and the Hughes led class as a tie for the best. I think it is little early to put this class anywhere close to those two. It could be, but we will have to wait to see how this class performs on the court before we do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 That's why I gave it a B+. I don't know if any of the gurus are going to even rate it top 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahok Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 It really depends on your grading scale, if you want to grade on being competitive in the A10, then you it would get a B+ or an A-. If you are talking about comparing it to National Programs then you would give it a C or C+ at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 brian in hindsight you are correct only because we had no idea that a venice high school skinny kid would translate into the star that erwin claggett became. that said, upfront we expected huge profits from julian winfield, so maybe that also puts that class ahead. of course winfield and grant (horrible knee injury that freshman year) never came to fruition for the billikens either. many times i think a lot of the credit for claggett highmark memories get skewed because of h. waldman who was not a part of that recruiting class. h is the best point guard we had in the last 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 >we already have two big men Verbal only, and you can never have too many big men. Or too much pitching. Or too many wild chicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 Good point. My as they always are, was relative to the conference, past SLU classes, the team's needs and the strength of the players. My grade was not based on a side-by-side comparison with any other recruiting class. I agree, this recruiting class would probably be just above average or in the C+ - B- range on a national basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Had to be the Douglass/Gray class. That class saved the program from going Division 3. This class, '08 is important, but the next one will be the real key to the Majerus era. He will have a full year to work on that class and we will get a real feel for what he will be able to get done on the recruiting trail. If it is as good as I think it will be, watch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Competing nationally - this group is better than a C or C+. It should rank in the top 100 which is pretty good and Rick is still not done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I agree with you, Cheeseman. At worst it is a B- so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 I didn't mean to imply that an above average class in terms of national rankings is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahok Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 The way I would rate the class is if the recruits coming in will be able to be a major scorer 30+ a game or major rebounder 10+ a game it would get a rating of an A. If the recruits coming in will score a 10-15 points a game or get 15 ponts and 8 rebounds a game I would rate the class a B, If the recruits coming in will be able to contribute and fill an immediate need then I would rate a C or higher maybe a C+ on the number of recruits that are able to do these things. Remember that there is plenty of playing time available on this team for the incoming class to contribute ponts and rebounds. I see the possibility of one recruit coming in that might be a B player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahok Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Sorry meant to say 20+ points not 30. Also we must be able to compete in the A10, then be come national. So these recruits will enable us to compete for the future. So The C or C+ rating is not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 How many college players score thirty a game? Very few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 just saw your correction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahok Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Read my oops sorry post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BillikenReport Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I gave this class an A because I think it will help SLU get to the top of the Atlantic 10 and hopefully to the NCAA Tournament for a couple years. Not all of these guys will be great players in college and chances are one or two won't finish their careers at SLU, but this group of four players (with two more to come) addresses needs at almost every position and will provide depth for several seasons. Even though these guys will be freshmen when Tommie Liddell and Kevin Lisch are seniors, this group should be able to help out right away in some form or another. This is a great start for Majerus. Don't forget, the guy hasn't even been able to get out and recruit yet and he's already got four commitments. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahok Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I agree, this class would rate an A when it comes to helping us become a major player in the A10. I like the size and the athletic ability the incoming guys will bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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