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>All this BS about how we are on the verge of being a >tournament team. Does anyone know anything about bball. >The team is far from a tournament team. Get a clue. Wow. Such a negative, misinformed attitude. The glaring weakness from last years team was a consistent 3 point shooter and a legit 4. We have 3 guys who can play the 4 consistently now. We will have a decent 3 point shooter when Stemler signs. If DM doesn't redshirt, he can also provide a spark there. Doubting he gets much time behind the guards, but ya never know. But then again, I just dont know anything about bball. I should go looking for a clue. moron.

Anyone heard anything about this? Supposedly it has something to do with the police, stolen credit cards, football players, basketball players, and Grimes, Not neccessarily in that order. Hopefully it is true because rooting for Mizzou is like rooting for the house in blackjack.

>Bradley will descend(once again) into the murky depths of >lower division MVC with the departures of Somerville and >O'Bryant. Doubtful. Theyve got a lot of talent returning. The best PG in the MVC. OB may still come back. Les is flying around the continent banging down the doors of recruits. Amazing what winning a few games in a row in March will do for a program. The MVC will still be fairly strong. With Altman and Turgeon locked in, and Les looking like hes locked in, there should be some great teams coming out on a yearly basis. SIU will reload as always. SMS was never that great to begin with. Did anyone else see that Drake signed Dr Tom to a lifetime contract? Thats the equivalent of us hiring Norm Stewart and giving him a lifetime contract after a few years. Very strange.

> >Unfortunately, SLU has more competition and hasn't come >close to matching Tennessee's excellence. The Post-Dispatch >is fine. My opinion has nothing to do with the post's lack of coverage of SLU. However, the Post is quite possibly the worst paper i have ever read. I mean, the Peoria Journal Star kicks its ass. PS Has anyone heard who the commencement speaker is for this year?

>@ www.jucojunction.com > >They say he`ll visit here the 26th and Indiana on the 28th. It says in that, or a related article, that his visit to IU will be a 3 day trip. It says that his trip here will be an after class trip to SLU for a few hours. Eh? Also, Kelvin Sampson might face problems at IU for the crap he got himself caught in at OU. Good work, IU. Hiring those coaches from the weak conference...

>2. Academic requirements at SLU present some recruiting >challenges NO THEY DONT! Why does everyone think this? As much as I'm proud of the SLU education, it's not Harvard. It's not Duke. It's not Stanford. Its just as tough/easy to get a player into Xavier, St Joe's, Bradley, Creighton, Boston College, etc.

>Thijin Moses: The 6-7 senior from Canada is being recruited >by DePaul, Bradley, Cincinnati, Toledo, Fairfield and >Wisconsin-Green Bay. >Xavier Crawford: The 7-foot senior from Durham, N.C., is >committed to Bradley. "He has tremendous upside. His best >basketball is in front of him,'' Jackson said. > >Manuel Cass: The 6-7 senior But >Cass, ..., said he will honor his earlier commitment >to DePaul. > >Mac Koshwal: The 6-9 junior from Canada, who ranks among the >top 25 prospects in the nation, has attracted interest from >Illinois, DePaul, Marquette, Michigan and Miami (Fla.). > >Craig Brackins: The 6-10 junior forward from California, who >has three-point shooting range, is being recruited by >DePaul, Washington, California, Washington State and Iowa >State. > >Michael Glover: The 6-6, 210-pound junior from Bronx, N.Y., >lists DePaul, St. John's, Providence and Rutgers on his >shopping list. > >Marcus Relphorde: The 6-6 reclassified junior from >Homewood-Flossmoor, who attended Millersburg (Ky.) Military >Academy last year, has attracted interest from DePaul, >California, Washington and Big East schools. > There are rumors going around that DePaul might try to hire this guy as an assistant. Notice the common school that is interested in the best players. This place might turn into a feeder system for DePaul. Bradley managed to steal Crawford out of there, and they are apparantly hot on the trail of Moses. But if Moses winds up going to DePaul, that might be the first domino to fall. And hell, why not? I wish we could get that kinda setup. They've got some big boys up there. Helluva team. Call him up, see if we can get him or a close relative on the staff.

>Did anybody hear that Ian entered the draft?He didnt hire an >agent,so he can still come back next year. I had heard this rumor floating around campus before break. You can only enter early for the draft once before your last year. So with a lot of the younger bigs (Noah, OBryant, etc.) maybe not going, Ian wanted to see where he would stand in an incredibly weak draft. No harm no foul. He wouldn't be drafted above 45. No guaranteed money vs. a starting spot and a free degree. I think he'll choose the degree.

>Don't be surprised if Chris Sloan is the next assistant, and >Drejaj the DBO. > How about someone with NBA contacts/experience? A former NBA player? A former NBA assistant? That'd go a long way with recruits. The NBA is a goal of quite a few recruits, and having someone on the staff with those connections would go a long way in helping them.

>no eddie curry or jeff hornacek? darius miles? Eddy is lazy. His team should have run away with the title in 01. However, seeing as how he is useless, he lost to a bunch of 6-2 scrappers. Bulls should have done some scouting. Miles didn't win either. He had a better tournament then Eddy, pro wise. Miles played himself into the top 5 of the draft. You see where both of them wound up. Underachieving. It is funny how much you can learn from watching a guy play in high school. You'd think millions of dollars would motivate them? And metz, everyone knows that the only reason Buckner was any good was because he had The Bonz outside poppin 3's.

>At 6'7" he's taller than Stemler and recruited to play in >the ACC...Have we've signed Stemler, who sounds like a wing? >I'd make a call if allowed to or upon hearing he's >officially reneging. What's the worst he can say...no? Where >have we heard that before? This is kinda a pie in the sky thing, but still raises a good point. Anytime you have a chance with a 4 star recruit, a guy who is top 20 at his position in the nation....you take it. Exactly right, the worst he can say is no. If a guy like Jon Scheyer from Glenbrook,IL said he wanted to play for SLU, would you tell him no because WE HAVE DANNY BROWN! No. No one in their right mind would. Same thing applies here. When you have a chance to get a stud, who cares about the current makeup of the team. You can always fit him in, especially over guys like Brown and Polk.

>The Ruffins said DeAndre was a lock for boomeranging back to >Bradley. When he walked out at Wiskey, initially he was >going to enroll at Bradley, then Tony Wysinger thought he >was headed to Illinois Central College(juco,) and then I >lost track of him. > >Faulkner would immediately turn us into a second round Big >Dance team. He is exactly the player I am hoping Powell >would turn into - an intimidating physical jumping jack who >knows his game and likes mixing things up. It was a pleasure >watching Richwoods play Notre Dame a few years ago, with >Faulkner(high D1) and Livingston(#7 straight to NBA) chewing >on Randall(high D1 and NBA future) and Gilfinan(Lehigh.) >Peoria is still turning out more quality D1 players than the >St. Louis PHL with the vaunted Vashon program. I'm talkin about DeAndre Miranda from Central. You're thinking of DeAaron Williams from Woodruff? Or Limestone? One of the 2. Miranda standing at 6-7 could easily play the 4 on a big level. Williams would be nice too, helluva an athlete, but I had heard hes destined for Bradley if the academics work out. Faulkner would put us at the very top of the A10, easily. He has played against big talent and been successful versus them. He is the type of guy you love if he's on your team, you hate if youre playing against him. I haven't heard what his plans are as of yet. He has some issues, not all of which are his fault.

>From Peoria Richwoods, two years of eligibility left, a >little headstrong, but can pick quarters off the top of the >backboard. > >He left Iowa State when he flunked a couple classes on lack >of attendance. He is a stud who dominated Brian Randle in >their head to head matchups in high school. > >http://cyclones.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/m...r_robert00.html Oh man, I'd like to see it. Back when he was coming out of JUCO, I suggested recruiting him. When hes on, hes really good. But this guy is an absolute head case. He could be related to Ron Artest. I doubt he could qualify. He wasnt able to qualify coming out of Richwoods, and it would seem his schooling habits have not improved. As for the Brian Randle reference, he actually got thrown out of his last game against Randle. For what, nobody knows. He just went ape ###### at half court. Dave, how about De'Andre Miranda? I think he went to school down in Florida. Wasn't the brightest bulb in the lamp, but I think he was tougher than Faulkner. Somewhere down on the juco circuit in Florida if I recall correctly?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2392453 Player recruited as a non scholarship player. Player told he would get the scholarship after his first year. Player doesn't get scholarship. URI refuses to grant him waiver to prevent sitting out a year. Other schools pull their offers. Guy gets pissed. Sues school. Good job URI. At least when they were dirty under Harrick, they actually were good. Lamar Odom isn't walking through that door..

He will be one of 4 former area players suiting >up for Western Illinois along with Smith, former Alton >forward Lorenzo Taylor, and former Belleville West and >Purdue star, Xavier Price. Purdue star Xavier Price? He averaged like 2 points per game for a team that won 7 games. Get real.

Damn..replace Quin with his clone from the north. At least Quin never had a rapist/burglar on his team. I do believe they are tied for number of ex-players in prison however. Why would Mizzou do this? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd love it if they brought in another underacheiving wonderkid, but seriously. Do they not realize they are basically just rehiring Snyder?

>no Cardinals, no Rams, no Blues, no Steamers, no Fox, no >nothing !!!! Steamers? get real. Cardinals don't play at the same time. Fox? A theater? Get serious. This is typical thinking. "Oh we have to compete against so much, the STEAMERS OH NO" SLU IS THE ONLY DIVISION 1 COLLEGE BASKETBALL IN ST LOUIS. The reason Bradley still draws is because theyre Peoria's team. They have many similar problems as we do. Lack of students(although Bradley does much better with student support), older fan base, and an arena off campus(downtown). One huge difference is the rivalries. Even a 9-21 team will bring out 10k for ISU, Creighton, Wichita State, etc. We don't have that. We get to go play these weak ass 2nd rate east coast teams. If you look back at it, i'm sure the Bradley-SLU games were some huge draws when we were in the Valley. We don't have a rival. Not 1. There is not one team that I say "oh i hope we kill them". Why oh why didn't we try to get into the MVC. Oh yeah, another thing is the style of play. Bradley plays good defense, and has a good offense! It's amazing. Listening to some, you'd think those two were mutually exclusive. Who knew!

>Bradley has a chance to move into the Sweet 16 and I think >the thing that favors BU is that they have nothing to lose. >They have no expectations and teams like KU once they got >down to a team like Bradley have no "Plan B" or Crisis mode >they can shift to. Pitt is obviously a better team, but Pitt >is unfamiliar with Bradley and if BU continues to play their >style of basketball, Pitt will be in a world of hurt on >Sunday. > >Unless you're a Wichita State backer now, we've gotta root >for BU to make it to the Sweet 16, and hope that we can get >them back on our schedule for 06-07. I hate Bill Self and Kansas. I love the look on his face every single march when his team goes out early. Who was it saying the MVC couldn't hang? Digger Phelps? Billy Pecker? Skip? Jim Nantz-y? Oh how I wish we would have joined the MVC :-(

A real fan is at games ... at least the >home ones. No, I take that back. That might be an athletic >supporter. A real fan not only goes to games, but even goes >to away games and conference tournaments. You, sir, do >neither so a fan you are not. Fan is short for fanatic. This is so far off. Are you saying that Bills fans can only be located in St Louis? How about those in California? Montana? It is a bit impractical for most students/recent grads to make the god awful trips to 90% of our road games. Thanks to our brilliant switch to the A10, there are only 2 schools within a driving distance from SLU. There are 99.9 million reasons why people can't go to games. How many home games did you go to? It's probably not a good idea to start throwing out credentials for being a "real" fan. You weren't just insulting VashonTIME, but many others on this board. But hey, if you want to float me a loan for 400$ for airfare to Philly or Rhode Island, I'll be happy to go to road games.

>I always thought that Joe Lunardi was an idiot. Lunardi is >the ESPN "analyst" who covers the NCAA and provides his >"bracketology" of the NCAA tournament. Apparently he also >does St. Joe's radio analysis. Here are some great quotes >from him today: > >"Ian Voyoukas has been running up the court very slowly. I >have been trying to figure out why he has been running so >slow. You know why? It is because he is really slow." > >"The Saint Louis U fans are great. Their mascot looks like >an overgrown telle tubby who is sniffing glue." Yeah, that idiot has "correctly" picked 203 outta 204 of the "NCAA" "at large teams" for the last 6 years. Some idiot he is. A "great" analyst. If he says a team is in, theyre probably in.

>You don't think it is ridiculous to say that NOW??? The guy >has had three winning seasons out of four, and one bad one >where the two top seniors basically became non-factors. > >I think it is fair for me to say that perspective is lost in >the minutes following a sour game like this. Overall, don't >you see the program moving in the direction it should be >going? We all, properly, have higher expectations for next >year. But how would SLU benefit by dumping Soderberg today? > And what has he done to deserve that? It makes ZERO sense. But what have those winning seasons led to? 2 NIT berths, maybe a 3rd. The first 2 NIT berths resulted in being embarassed by Minnesota, and a 1-1 run. I give him a pass on last year. Who knows how they would have been with Tommie on the team last year along with Polk, Frericks healthy, and Reggie being a decent player. The problem isn't losing perspective for this game. It's the body of the season. The team has been mediocre (wlwlw), good, great, and now bad. I would give him about a B- or C+ on the season. Twice we were beat by St Joes, by almost the exact score, by almost the exact gameplan. I think the reaction wouldn't be as harsh if we had lost this game 80-60. The fact we only scored as much as an average high school team is going to bring a lot of negativity out. I just wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea to bring in an "offensive coordinator" to run the offense. Minnesota did something similar a few years ago, bringing in Jim Molinari (a Soderberg type), to run the defense.

>Should we start keeping count now on how many ridiculous >DUMP SODERBERG comments we hear today and tomorrow? Grow up >kids. What is so ridiculous about saying that? I'm not quite sure. He has been the definition of mediocre, right around .500. If you wanna stay with that, fine. I'd like to see some NCAA tournament berths. If we have to go to the NIT, I want to see deep runs into the NIT. Not so ridiculous for people to say they want more. Plenty of coaches have done much better jobs in less time. Brad will obviously be back for next year, but after that...who knows?

>Maybe Brad should spend a little more time coaching >OFFENSE. Has anyone else noticed that all he talks >about is coaching defense, while his offense has disappeared >time and time again in big games! Good coaches adapt. Mediocre coaches have .500 records.

>Puzzling? Two freshman, one sophomore, one junior. Not >that puzzling to me. No excuse. Not an excuse at all. These players have 30 games under their belt. Very puzzling how they regressed in the last 2 weeks. Very puzzling.

>It sounds to me like we mainly can't hit open shots, and >several times, the defense hasn't gotten back. Rammer says >we missed 7 layups...and not sure we've made ONE! It's pathetic. Just use the next half as a learning experience. We wont be in the NIT if this keeps up. 14 points in a half. 14 points!!! I just cannot believe they came out this incredible lame after watching the top seed in the tournament get knocked off by a team we have already beat. No excuses for this one. The only hope is to get hot from 3.