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3 hours ago, Cowboy II said:
-that gets him a contract, right?
somehow they would have to free up a roster spot. no idea what their individual players remaining contracts are currently. you would sure think so. they obviously like him considering he is playing over their main roster players now. that said, Ja comes back next year as well as marcus smart and derrick rose. that's a lot of former star power that goodwin would have to battle for floor minutes. he might be better looking for another team that is in need for a guard. you can bet scouts from other teams have noticed.
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2 hours ago, Brighton said:
Are you capable of being happy about anything for a brief moment ?
wow would never expect a statement like the above from you. havent you been awarded the most negative and pesimistic billiken fan like 8 years in a row?
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1 hour ago, brianstl said:
I’m sorry son, but you must have him confused with someone else. His name is Roger Murdock.
one of my alltime favorite movies. thanks for the smile tonight Brian!
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Schertz should take his tennis racket to the game and blast a serve to the catcher.
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5 minutes ago, cheeseman said:
I am not saying he is worthless all I am saying is you can't take what he says at face value. As far as May changing his mind on Ford I am sure he eventually did once the tide had changed. I have no doubt that May will do whatever it takes to save himself. Never have I ever sailed under a false flag with any of my employees. It sometimes made them unhappy, but I was always honest regarding where they stood, and they knew it. As far as a good employee suddenly going south, I would have been remiss not to try to figure out what was going on in his/her life to cause this sudden change and see what help I could provide. I actually feel a bit bad for Ford because I am sure he feels a bit betrayed by May. By the way I never said anything about Schertz character either way.
and i am saying you and i dont know the whole story of the true scenario. we are all guessing to a great extent. what matters is the end result. and from my view it is a home run. the fact Chris May is still here and taking a very active role in the roll out of the red carpet and handling all the public work, i would say he was the one swinging the very successful bat. but again just a guess. we dont know. but it sure seems silly to continue with the bashing he endured all year long in my opinion. if half of that was true he would have gotten fired.
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23 minutes ago, cheeseman said:
First, last year May said Ford would be coach at SLU as long as he was AD - so did he lie then or Monday given that he just said he had been tracking Schertz since last season? Second, the M of U was not a contract that assured Schertz would be here - if any other school wanted him they could have him for the 4 million buy out - this had nothing to do with a handshake being a deal given the out that was written in it. By the way I am sure in the M of U an outline of a contract existed but not the details and as they say the devils in the details. Third, if he was on the hunt for possibly a new coach all year then why the argument with Chaiftz in Chicago after the L of C game all he would have had to say to Chaiftz is I am working on it and Chaiftz would not have needed to have that discussion with May. Bottom line, when do you believe him or not. Schertz was keeping his options open as he should, and May was trying to make himself look good on Monday. Roy, I understand that you have a value system that leads you to expect people to stand by their word and that is the way it should be but honestly until the papers are signed sealed and delivered no deal actually exists.
so when your production drastically falls off the boss has to stick to his support statement from months ago? what if you had a teacher that went from award winning to slacking off, sleeping in class, unfairly disciplining kids, just not a good teacher anymore. you still going to stick by that award you gave them the year before? how do you know that this year there were not discussions between ford and may about the obvious fail in process?
as to the deal, i agree thanks to our society becoming a world of litigation and loopholes, it isnt a deal until signed sealed delivered. that still doesnt mean that schertz didnt verbally agree. and if you read my above follow up post, it only goes to show that schertz is a man of character and a man of his word that he stuck by it even though over the course of the NIT his popularity exploded. only goes to show may did his homework and found the man that was best for the position.
i just dont understand why you folks continue to play the "may is worthless card" when all signs point to the fact he did a very complete job on this whole process.
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13, you are a good poster and i love reading your takes and comments. but i think you got this one wrong.
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Just now, someoneelse said:
UConn did some weaving last night. It ran some clock and got a backdoor layup.
the backdoor layup is the difference. uconn used the weave to start the play. ford did nothing but waste time with the weave. it's like he fell asleep in the weave class and missed the part about what can be done off the start of the weave.
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1 hour ago, TheOne said:
Roster bits:
- Avila is 99% a Billiken
- Expect 3-4 of ISU’s starters to be Billiken locks, with potential for more
- Strong mutual desire for Gibson and Larry to stay and be strong parts of the rotation, with heavy playcalling revolving around Gibson
- Strong interest in Turnbull (appears mutual)
- Christian Nitu out of Canada looking very positive
this is exciting, particularly Nitu from what i have read and watched utube videos. Utube video are always typically over the top but even then, if the video's are generally accurate of Nitu's game, he would seem to fit into Schertz style perfectly.
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12 minutes ago, cheeseman said:
Oh, wait May said at the news conference that they did not finalize the deal until last Friday night. My point is May said a lot of stuff at the news conference I am not sure what you can believe or not.
finalize = signed. Schertz couldnt sign until his season was over. a handshake was done weeks ago likely. a real man, one that is honest with good character, shakes a hand on an agreement and his word is golden.
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11 minutes ago, willie said:
As has been discussed there were some who wanted to replace Ford last year. May certainly knew that if Ford did not turn it around he would have to replace him . Why would Schertz not have been on a potential list of replacement?
exactly. while so many have written off Chris May, he didnt get to this position in his career to sit back and not prepare for the possiblities and inevitables. i see no reason he wouldnt have been developing alternatives and scenarios. i am also sure if he was smart he would be at minimum feeling out the whales for the program and getting input and feelings and continuing to develop those relationships.
last, he likely had an implementation plan that he could more or less insert the winning name into the scenario. you are all foolish to believe he would not be ready to react to not only save his own job, but more importantly save the Billikens. right now it appears that is what i believe happened and i thank Chris May completely. We are lucky we have the boosters we have and the leadership and assertiveness that Chris May delivered.
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Just now, slufan13 said:
Staff is looking good so far. It makes a lot more sense on paper than Ford's coaching staff the final few years.
my son pointed out all these coaches are very good x's and o's guys. exactly the staff ford should have been bringing on his entire time at SLU as x's and o's were without a doubt ford's weakness.
that said, it has been my business experience that most "managers" wont surround themselves with associates that will complete their "team" by strengthing their collective weaknesses. they are more apt to find a worker bee or a yes person. rather than "risk" bringing in the person that could take their job. ironically imo that person that can "take their job" is the guy that if successful doesnt put the manager out of work as often as push the manager up to a higher level because the team succeeds. a good manager is always looking to hire their replacement.
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10 minutes ago, cheeseman said:
Yes he was spinning a yarn. He may have seen an ISU game but he was not thinking of hiring Schertz
so you must be on chris may's short list of close confidential friends to know that. i'm impressed. i consider myself a friend of chris may and he didnt tell me anything this specific.
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nice jacket.
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5 minutes ago, cheeseman said:
He is moving fast - I remember when Ford was hired it took some time to get his staff filled.
let's not forget the deal to become the billiken coach was likely struck weeks ago. he likely knew who would more than likely accept and he could trust their silence throughout the NIT. i.e. he didnt just approach and get a deal with those coaches yesterday.
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1 hour ago, Cowboy II said:
-I wonder if Thames could be a backup point 5 in CJS's system?
while thames is a fantastic athlete, the bad turnovers and fouls he had this past season tells me he isnt "point" anything material. he is a wing with good rebounding skills. just my opinion and i would love for him to prove me wrong.
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2 hours ago, Billikitty7 said:
Bear with me- I’ve been off the board a while- remind me who SBV is again… please and thank you.
This why I initials are bad
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49 minutes ago, slu72 said:
What are we down to, 5 returnees? A lot of work to do for Coach Schertz.
Just bodies pretty much leaving. Id fight for jimmerson the rest, meh.
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2 hours ago, Zink said:
Played against Shimmy in a Students vs Faculty charity game, and she was… not nice.
Bizarrely chewed out a men’s player (Dwayne Evans, I think) while he was reffing. And was trying to talk trash all game, it was really weird.
you never played competive sports did you? at that level you are competitor and hate to lose. your mantra changes. the polite good guy during the game is rare and it is a curse that follows you forever. in fact once your playing days are over, it translates to your fanship normally. it is like an incurable disease. but honestly I wouldnt have it any other way. losers lose and accept it. i detest it. you want to criticize me for it, again i ask, "you never played competitive sports did you?"
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i had a lot of conversations with Shimmy while she was the coach at slu. she was fun to talk to and she obviously loved basketball. watching her games though, it was obvious she was the women's version of ford, i.e. a recruiter but not a coach. the legends of her practice and lockerroom tirades are boderline scary and the fact she chased off a number of very good players that ended up transferring up was her end. an analyst position is probably the best place for her and i believe ford will end up the same.
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18 minutes ago, slu72 said:
Travis is probably wondering why he wasn’t given such a big NIL treasure chest. Even more than this season’s meltdown, I’d say his goose was cooked after the disaster that occurred in the 22-23 season. If he couldn’t coach that squad into the dance there was no good reason to give him the funds to pursue talent that he couldn’t coach up to get the desired results. Travis’ legacy as a coach will be great salesman but a mediocre coach.
mediocre is kind. he was a horrible coach. no development, practice or game coach skills. recruiting was indeed his only redeeming factor. very very good before the ncaa changed all the rules. pay to play and unlimited immediate transferring changed the game of recruiting and he was out of his element and thus pretty much worthless. it was beyond time to go.
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If nothing else go for dessert some night and get a s'mores pizza. Awesome.
Their self brewed beers are good. Nothing special though imo.
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1 minute ago, wgstl said:
Roy, didn't you say something about the second your coach lacks integrity you're out?
the wife retracted everything. they had a disagreement and she overreacted. he was guilty of nothing.
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1 hour ago, Taj79 said:
@HoosierPal: My bigs are van Bussel and Zhang. Following in the footsteps of DJ Foreman, Rashed Anthony, Jimmy Bell Jr., Madani Diarra, Andre Lorentsson, Lassina Traore, and Mouhamadou Cisse. Who are these unnamed bigs you mention? Big #1 looks like Ezewiro. Not hard to improve when your played in a limited role with that kind of talent at LSU and Georgetown. Big #2 appears to be Okoro. A guy who was never really a part of Oregon's guard-laden offense. Two aberrations in a historical string that stretches over 5+ years with multiple candidates for failure.
The last big that might have progressed positively here was Ian Vouyoukous. Maybe Rob Loe as well. Brian Conklin was NOT a big.
imo loe took three years to get there, but that senior year he was really good. vouyoukous also was a project but his last two years i thought he was good.
okoro was a senior disappointment. i thought that junior year was good, he defintely went backwards that last year.
ezewiro never getting into shape was a disappointment this year. my gosh if i was sitting to get eligible with his potenial and size, i would have been working out like crazy. what else did he have to do? to finally be able to play and it seemed he couldnt play 5 minutes without a break was so so disappointing. when he was fresh he was a player tho.
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wouldnt it be something if ford falls into this? i find it hard to believe but if everyone is afraid of the expectations and pressure, who knows who they might resort to being their next coach.