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Interesting thought... Maybe KU not in his top 3. That would be a surprise to say the least, but probably a positive for us I'd think.

Oh heck, recruiting news coming fast and furious these days. I imagine KU will be in his top three. Hopefully us, and who else? edit: Also, is this a final 3 or top 3? Is there a difference?

Wow, didn't realize he had the outside touch to go along with his inside game.

Thanks for all you do, Steve. Sent a donation on venmo.

Watched at your behest, old guy. I'm just not that impressed. If he's a legit 7'1", that obviously has his benefits in terms of just getting in the way. Still, he doesn't look particularly skilled, doesn't shoot the ball, and appears to be pretty unathletic (although at 7'1" it can admittedly be difficult to appear athletic.) I will trust Ford's judgement on this one, but the thought of this guy going up against a Mo Alie Cox type is scary.

Without even watching the highlight video, these posts are making me think Bryce Husak. Not exactly a ringing endorsement. maybe I should watch the highlights

Sounds like a tool.

They are not changing the logo, just the mascot.

Oh dear Jesus. Old guy, you are a posting legend.

Just curious, wasn't there a quote from Ford right when he was hired saying something along the lines of "We won't finish in that position in the A10 again." ?? I could swear I heard something like that. Anyway, it seems like he's already backing off of that statement. Which is fine. There's a lot of work to do.

I'd rather see Neufeld and Welmer get most of the minutes at 5 than Gillmann. Neufeld wasn't great last year, but there's potential there. And before he got hurt last year, we were hearing good things about Welmer. We know what we have in Gillmann, and it isn't an A10 quality starter. He can be useful as a three point threat off the bench in a very limited role. But that's about it in my opinion.

Either option is so much better than the new mascot. I even don't mind the top one with the open mouth. I can't even fathom how anyone thought the stupid two-toned thing looked good, unless it's some sort of diversity thing. In which case, make the entire Billiken gray. It seems blasphemous, but it's a better option than the current two faced freak.

Hey, it worked for Grandy Glaze... dude got NBA workouts for real

That's good to hear, thanks. Any info on when we might see some of these other commitments that are being talked about?

Right. In basketball terms, just being a spot up shooter isn't that difficult. Bartley didn't really offer a lot besides that. I imagine Zeke can fill the Bartley role pretty effectively.

I love it. Make it happen Ford.

Getting good playing time early. Hit a 3. 27-16 Australia in the 2nd quarter.

Funnily enough, I read this topic as "Billikens.com Hall of Fame". That would be fun/potentially terrible.

We've got to get at least some of these guys right? Right? I actually wonder if Ford thinks we have a chance on some of these guys, or if he just sees a benefit in having the SLU name out there when it comes to some of the higher ranked recruits. Then again, he can pitch the opportunity for immediate playing time on what we assume will be a competitive, NCAA-level team in '17-'18 with the three transfers becoming eligible.

From that article: "[st. Louis] has a great coaching staff." How often have we heard that from recruits over the past three years? I'd guess not too often.

Give us some more info! Beast= freak = Greek freak= Kostas Antetokoumnpo? ?

A less obvious benefit of all these transfers: our guys are going to be going against three high-level athletes every day in practice. Something we haven't had in a while.

Assume you mean McCall rather than Mitchell. Otherwise, agreed, Ash seems like he would've been much more effective as a 4th/5th scoring option rather than a 1st or 2nd like he was his entire time here. He usually drew other teams' best defenders.

For me, these are best and worst-case scenarios: Best: MC finally is healthy, and becomes the leader offensively we have been searching for the last two years. RA continues to improve, and becomes at least a 10 and 8 guy for us. MB shoots like he did in the conference tournament for the majority of the year. JB shows improvement and consistency. At least one of JJ or ZM shows they can compete at an A10 level. Two of AG, MN, EW, or BJ show significant improvement at the forward spots (or show they can be competitive in EW's case, as we haven't seen him yet). DR consistently looks like the player we saw at times his freshman year- can get to the hoop as well as shoot the three. Ford develops some semblance of a rotation, and actually draws up inbounds plays (somewhat joking about that last part.) I don't think any of these are super far fetched by themselves, but it is unlikely everything happens. If most of these things happen, though, I could see a mid-conference finish and maybe a CBI invite or something like that. We saw flashes of that team last year, however brief they were (GW and Davidson wins.) That is absolute best case. Worst case: MC has nagging injuries all year and shows no improvement/no willingness to be an offensive leader. RA regresses/does not improve and continues to make 2-3 boneheaded mistakes again. MB looks the same as he did for the whole regular season. JB remains frustratingly inconsistent. JJ/ZM have little to no impact. None of the bigs jumps out from the rest of the pack, and we get absolutely crushed in the paint and on the glass all year. DR remains as inconsistent as he was this past season. Ford shows signs of being exactly what OSU fans said he was: Good recruiter, mediocre in-game coach. In this case, a bottom of the league finish seems likely. While I don't think every one of these things will happen either, I would say I think this scenario is more likely than the best-case, but that may be the cynical Billiken fan inside me that has grown over the last two seasons. I think most likely scenario is somewhere in between: Many frustrations about inconsistency, but promising signs, especially from the younger players. Hopefully this will lead to hope for the next season, and show Goodwin and others that we can be competitive in '17-18, especially with the transfers becoming eligible.

Why do people think that even if Crews offered Goodwin and he committed, he wouldn't have reopened his recruitment when he took off? A commitment is not binding. A LOI is, but Goodwin couldn't have signed one yet. I've been baffled by this for the longest time.