thetorch
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15 hours ago, courtside said:
There wasn’t a follow up post, because the situation didn’t change. Regarding any drama after that, let’s just say some things aren’t always what they seem.
Officially, SLU first made contact with Josh Schertz March 13th. Unofficially, SLU targeted, and established mutual interest with Schertz, several weeks prior to that through a third party. Contract negotiations were ongoing St. Patrick’s Day weekend. And, a deal was finalized Tuesday March 19th. He wasn’t the only coach SLU contacted. And he wasn’t the only coach SLU interviewed. But he was SLU’s first snd only choice.
There were meetings on the 13th, 17th, and the 19th of March during the process. Immediately after these meetings, Trilly Donovan and Jeff Borzello were contacted by Evan Daniels and two other people.Ross Chaifetz was not one of these people. However he did communicate with them later in the process.
There also seems to be some confusion and misinformation out there regarding other SLU candidates. See the Coaching Carousel post.First quoting yourself is a ****** move.
Your timeline in both posts is way off and your info is just completely inaccurate.
You cribbed this off a couple pay boards that I am on too and you copy and pasted specifically from two posts on another pay site.
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Blake Ahearn has moved on from SLU. We have to go after the original Blake Ahearn, Kent Williams.
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22 minutes ago, almaman said:
yep, men, white, on radio.
differences one is a big dIck in most peoples eyes. Slate never would be allowed on tv for the masses.
Lol you do realize Slaten has been the sports director at two tv stations in town for multiple years.
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1 hour ago, dlarry said:
Floyd Irons with assistant coaches Blake Ahearn and Frank Cussamano. Kevin Slaten Director of Basketball operations.
Fist fights would break out amongst the coaching staff before the first whistle blows. Then Slaten would sucker punch a cheerleader on his way out.
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8 hours ago, DOC said:
Save it. You've repeatedly trashed the guy and called for his firing. When someone listed the success the athletic program has enjoyed under May you were the one who said May was a douchbag and could not be judged by anything but the Ford buyout and the buyout set us back forever and May should be fired for it. Turns out the buyout was a moot point. The guy who agreed to the extension came in and paid it, paid the new coach and funded the money to bring his players. If May pulls this off you haters need to stfu for a while.
If you bungle 10 projects at your job and do well on one does your company retain you?
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Any chance this game is at home?
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6 minutes ago, Cowboy II said:
-I'm starting to think Floyd isn't on your Christmas card list
I actually know them.
Just don't like the free passes certain people have gotten in the basketball community. Don't get me started on Pee Wee Lenard.
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1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said:
So he's a lifelong criminal for basically doing what blue blood college basketball programs have done for decades but at a much smaller scale. And he's a criminal to this day at 75 years old but he has a sweetheart deal with the Feds to keep him out jail. Got it.
Blue blood college basketball coaches embezzle thousands of dollars from their schools and then retain their jobs?
They also run a fake mortgage scam for several years buying up a dozen properties to bilk out banks and investors. Also news to me.
I've never heard of a college basketball coach who was an informant for the FBI for several years.
There is no defending Floyd Irons. He is a criminal scumbag.
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2 hours ago, 3star_recruit said:
They certainly live a modest lifestyle considering they are crime kingpins. I don't think the average De Smet graduate would trade places with them.
Didn't say they were successful at it. Usually criminals who maintain ties to law enforcement do so because they've been caught multiple times.
Typical of St. Louis to continually defend criminals in our community. Don't particularly care how they live. Irons is a convicted felon who recieved favorable treatment in his jail sentence, his best friends and business associates are criminals, he has admitted to cheating in gaining admittance for players to go to his school, paying for housing, forging documents, he's admitted to skimming off the top in the school district that employed him for 40 years, stealing thousands or more. The same corrupt school district employs his son in the same job he had, a son who was involved in the fathers criminal enterprises. This isn't hyperbole, this info is from court documents. I guess its all ok because his teams win games.
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38 minutes ago, kshoe said:
That was Nick Kern (senior), right?
Yes. Shameful what Irons did to him.
This is what happens when you let felons run public schools.
Irons for years would let kids go to school without uniforms if they paid him a dollar. He'd stand outside and collect the money every day. Told auditors this money went to the district. District had no record of receiving any of it. Floyd is a real life Clay Davis.
Floyd, his sons, and Mike Knoll, were all wannabe gangsters who came up with a crooked mortgage scheme to rip off a couple guys from Town & Country. Knoll, a career criminal who used his nefarious earnings to bankroll Irons AAU program and multiple other scams, was also a longtime fed snitch along with Irons. They would rat on criminals so they could expand their own criminal enterprises. Floyd tried to snitch on his partners, lucky the judge didn't buy it. Still the FBI helped cut Irons possible prison time by more than half. Nothings changed since then. The Irons family is still involved in gangs and criminal enterprises while snitching to Feds and local cops.
These are the guys shaping young men in St. Louis.
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1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said:
Keshon Gilbert averaged 13.7 for Iowa Stste this year. I wouldn’t call that a flame out.
Transferred in. Only went to Vashon 1 year. Not a real product of the program. Keep reaching. Actually going to Vashon hurt his rankings nationwide and decreased his offers.
99% of the players Vashon has produced this century end up in low level d-1 or d-2. High profile guys all have multiple transfers and underachieved.
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SLU reached out to Chris Mack and we were rebuffed. Vanderbilt was also told no. Mack wants a low pressure gig where he can win. He wasn't looking for a high major team or a team that wants to be high major.
Floyd and Tony despise SLU. It would be a shame if we missed out on a lot of players that come out of the V except none really do. Irons prepares his teams to win at the HS level. Once they leave Vashon they all flame out. Any present and future SLU coaches should just stay away.
Floyd went on several local media campaigns. After Melvin left SLU he did an interview with Irons on Sports Plus explaining his side of the story, assault charges, taking cash to play, etc etc. The one with McKinney's father was with the player Romar recruited that was ineligible, that Irons convinced to play on his semi pro team instead of sitting out a year and playing in college and then got shot shortly thereafter ending his career. There was also a big media campaign to get Joel Shelton to get an offer from SLU, if you get a second read up on Shelton fascinating story. It eats at Floyd and Tony that Bonner is the best player to come out of Vashon and the credit for his development, rightfully so, goes to Grawer. In the 40 years since with all their great teams they haven't produced a player even close to him.
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2 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:
Except like it's not well thought out besides Barge Madness. SLU and Mizzou are on the west side of the river. Why would fans be on both sides of the river.
Plus the rivers aren't deep enough right now for much barge traffic.
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18 hours ago, Lord Elrond said:
You’re not alone, my bracket went down in flames today. Sic transit gloria mundi
I had 13 of 16 teams in the sweet sixteen. I have 0 teams in the elite eight.
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4 hours ago, BrettJollyComedyHour said:
Is this the right place for this? All of my final four are gone.
Mine as well. I went from 2nd place to 31st in less than 24 hours.
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1 hour ago, Old guy said:
Torch, Pestello is quitting next year, who is going to fire May if he screws up again? I do not think Pestello is likely to fire May. I think May will probably stay until the new President takes over and decides May has to go.
A good hire now does not wash away what he did with Crews and Ford.
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1 hour ago, David King said:
I wonder why they called Melvin “Big Chill” ?
Melvin was very relaxed.
Avila would have Robsinson in foul trouble in about 90 seconds.
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55 minutes ago, DOC said:
We’re in a great position right now. And as bad as the contract/buyout was, it hasn’t affected SLU basketball one bit. It’s been a non-factor. We have plenty of money for Schertz and we wouldn’t have gotten him if he didn’t get NIL assurances. If a few of his players sign then this will be an absolute home run hire for May.
It is like a 12-20 season just never happened.
May needs a home run hire to keep his job. Anything less with his track record and he's fired in disgrace.
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On 3/26/2024 at 2:03 PM, Slu let the dogs out? said:
Speaking of basketball tournaments in STL, whatever happened to the Coca Cola Shootout? I used to love attending that as a child. A lot of highly ranked national recruits played in that tournament...
The area still has a couple bigger one day or weekend games with out of town big names.
Highland Shootout
Ramey Showcase usually at Lindenwood or Cardinal Ritter.
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On 3/22/2024 at 6:29 PM, HoosierPal said:
Shot 30% from 3. Athletic wing that can't shoot. Are we picking these guys out of a hat?
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On 3/22/2024 at 6:34 PM, HoosierPal said:
Is Ford still in charge? 7th or 8th man on Cornell?
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2 hours ago, thatskablamo said:
Curious as to how everyone handles the desk setup for today’s games. Sitting pretty with the multiple monitors + iPad this afternoon. Productively working on the Penske File, boys.
Sorry to tell you but our board of directors has been indicted, myself included and we are prohibited from doing business...and your car is being towed.
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Just now, SluSignGuy said:
Does Jimerson entering the portal deserve its own thread?
Nah. The first of many and good chance he comes back anyway.
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Not a surprise that he is testing the waters. Will have to wait on Courtside to tell us whether he is considering coming back or not.
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The online campaign to dump Ford and hire Schertz/not hire Ahearn had a definite effect on the decisions made in the last few weeks.
How can you not see this?
Burnergate doesn't happen without the online pressure. That embarrassment was the tipping point in Ford's tenure. There was no coming back after that.
The AD's office is still talking about the box of clown noses. It was a big black eye for them. May might still have them, he did for several weeks after.
The silly multi year flirtation with Blake Ahearn was put down completely by online pressure.
Schertz as a a candidate was enhanced exponentially by the support of him online.
But yeah the grassroots thing was stupid.
The AD, Board of Trustees, and big boosters all read this board and Billikens Twitter. What we say does influence and shape their decisions.