billiken_roy Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 my son and i took in the belleville summer slam today. it plots most of the area illinois high school teams (both men's and women's) versus each other for two days. we got to see tommie liddell, jb jones, arthur sargent, darius luster, demareo (sp?) smith, and the two super sophs from bethalto, mcguire and jones, twice each today. liddell is the real deal. he has filled out some since i saw him last. he is as smooth as can be. seems to be able to get a shot when ever he wants. i would tell you he is a poor man's larry hughes by the way he handles himself on the floor. dont get me wrong, he isnt hughes. hughes had extreme point guard skills and had penny hardaway like floor vision, and i dont think tommie has that level of skills on those attributes, but he is built the same way, seems to be as big as hughes was as a high school senior and just glides over the court so effortlessly. he is a player. also on his team was this demareo smith. smith is probably about 6'6" tall and extremely gifted athletically and body wise. strong kid. but he did not get a chance to do anything away from the basket. not sure if he is good enough inside wise to play c-usa powerforward. but then again, i was told he is only going to be a junior, so he could be one to watch. jb jones had two really nice games. just took over the second game and put the game out of reach. his is a nice player that is capable of playing point in college. i like him. but we seem to be filled at his position. he will make some college team very happy. arthur sargent played extremely well imo. he is extremely athletic as well and has liddell size. he shot the ball more from the outside than what i remember him doing before and shot very well. if we lose out on liddell and meyer and want a sf/sg, arthur might be a player to take a look at. i think he is at least mvc level talented. luster did not do much in what i saw of his game, but they were playing the same time belleville althoff was playing and i was watching that althoff game most of that period. i did see him block a shot where his hand was up at the top of the square on the backboard. however, i noticed he was playing exclusively under the basket today. luster played some on the wing last year and imo, his college future is as a wing, not a 6'5" center. the two bethalto kids are nice players. jones is a very heady point guard that is very mature and poised. and mcguire seemed to be able to get the ball down low and create a scoring opportunity. they bear watching develop as both will be sophs next year from what i was told today. kevin lisch was there but did not play as supposedly he pulled a muscle this past week at a camp in kansas (not kansas as in jayhawks, just a camp in kansas). btw, if jill is reading, mascoutah has a point guard named bec harris that is the equal of star jackson right now. go get her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlee Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 b-roy Did X. Price play for Bellevilee West? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 Isn't Sargent class of 2005? I'm sure the staff will get a snootful of him next year at the Belleville Tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 XPrice could be with the St. Louis Eagles enroute to the Nike Peach Jam in S.C., which runs July 14-17. Same with Matt Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 13, 2003 Author Share Posted July 13, 2003 price was not there. supposedly wanted time off after the nike camp. btw, i found out tonite from my son that i had luster from cahokia mixed up with a different kid. luster was not there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 13, 2003 Author Share Posted July 13, 2003 hmmm, i wonder why jones was there then. you would think he would have been with the eagles as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 13, 2003 Author Share Posted July 13, 2003 you are correct. i talked to a kid tonite that went to grade school with arthur and arthur will only be a junior next year at belleville west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted July 13, 2003 Share Posted July 13, 2003 BRoy, Good report on what you saw. Too bad that Lidell's grades will more than likely keep him out of a D-1 Uni next year, as he sounds like a player that we could really use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalensdad2002 Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 You might want to re-think that Demario Smith comment. I have watched him play since his freshman yr and much like Andre Brown, he seems to play b-ball only because he is 6'6. They both seem to play the game without passion. During last years game between East Side and Belleville West in the sectional semi-finals, Smith feigned injured and did not compete. A short time later he was seen playing pick up ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Please continue to keep us apprised of what's going on in high school and AAU ball. We can never have too many "scouts." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 In a recent interview with Liddell on Rivals, he listed only Bradley, Depaul, Marquette and Kansas as schools he's interested in. He said only Bradley and Depaul have offered but Marquette was the favorite. He also said he wants to decide over the summer. Can you add anything to this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 14, 2003 Author Share Posted July 14, 2003 jalensdad, first off, welcome to the board. i remember you posted a number of times some very interesting insight on bob gibbons messageboard. as to smith, you hit the nail on the head apparently today. i did not attend the summer slam today, but my son was there and he said smith was worthless today. with his body that is sad. he is obviously very talented and one hates to see him waste his opportunities. btw, belleville althoff won the tourney without kevin lisch playing a bit beating e st louis first and then winning the championship vs belleville west. however west was without price and jb jones today. price was supposedly playing with the eagles somewhere but jones was awol. my son told me liddell and mark howland were both splendid in the loss by east side though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalensdad2002 Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Interesting enough SLU has offered him a scholarship, so don't count out SLU. You can pretty much count out Bradley, the only connection they had with Tom was Phillip Gilbert and he will be gone when Tommie gets there. Coach Crean made a huge impression with Tom and his Dad because he stated to them that he would take Tom under any circumstances. He has issues with his grades but Tom is a bright kid if not consistent in the classroom. Any school that recruits him would not be taking a huge risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalensdad2002 Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Thanks for the info B-Roy as I wasn't able to attend. The Flyers should have a good team this year if Mark Howlett finds some consistency in his overall game. I don't know about Smith though. The class of SWC should be West with JB Jones leading the way. Price should easily average over 20+ a game. Crazy enough Mark Howlett has a twin brother who is light years ahead of him talent wise but refuse to attend class. So to any JUCO coach out there he may be worth the effort. The name of his brother is Marcus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Tommie is a terrific talent. Will he be academically eligible in November and December? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalensdad2002 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 >Tommie is a terrific talent. Will he be academically >eligible in November and December? YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p diddy Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 then tell him to come on down so we can form that lethal lefty backcourt of liddell and polk in the future along with our athletic 6'4" guard in darren clark. tommie can be our dwayne wade. spread the love, jalensdad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I second that. If Tommie Liddell will meet the NCAA's initial eligibility requirements (and maybe even if he won't -- Dwayne Wade didn't), then I want him at SLU. Considering what Brad Soderberg already has in the fire, I think the addition of Dwayne Polk, Tommie Liddell, and Matt Shaw would be just what the doctor ordered. The Billikens would then be as athletic as any team in its conference, and Brad would probably make them more skilled. I think I see conference championships in the not-distant future. Yes, I know I'm getting ahead of myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 16, 2003 Author Share Posted July 16, 2003 let's not forget young kevin lisch would be due to debut in the billiken backcourt the following year! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p diddy Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 another lethal lefty in the mix. bad boyz for life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalensdad2002 Posted July 19, 2003 Share Posted July 19, 2003 > > then tell him to come on down so we can form that lethal >lefty backcourt of liddell and polk in the future along with >our athletic 6'4" guard in darren clark. tommie can be our >dwayne wade. spread the love, jalensdad I'll tell you what, Coach Soderberg made a huge impression with Liddell's uncle when he sent Liddell a letter encouraging him during summer school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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