kevinfootes Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Didn't Jahidi White go to Cardinal Ritter? If so, I think he would have been a senior when Woods and Carrawell were sophomores. That would have been the most talented high school team in the past 30 or 40 years. Sorry Vashon and DeSmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLIKNS Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 The amazing thing about that team,they didn`t win a state championship that year.Forgot who did win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenmetz Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 White, imo is the most underrated Hoya since Paul Tagliabue (60) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 White underachieved at G'town. By then Thompson just couldn't coach, so not his fault. White still kicks around in the league. More than Carrawell and soon Woods can say. My memory escapes me but I believe Ritter had one more talented D-1 player on that team if not two more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 I think you are right. Ritter was a 2A school (back when they only had 4 classes) and played virtually nobody until they played Pembroke Hill out of KC. Pembroke had Jaron and Kareem Rush (Jaron was considered much better then his younger better back in highschool). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 i would take laphonso ellis lincoln teams against those ritter teams. besides ellis, i am thinking that there were a couple of athletes on the team that ended up in the nfl as well so they were loaded with pure skills and talent as well. i am sure p diddy or even jalensdad can remember the teamates, thinking there was victor scott and the big marshall guy that got in trouble when in the nfl plus phiffer kid that was a marvelous point guard. not sure why he never did anything past high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalensdad2002 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 >i would take laphonso ellis lincoln teams against those >ritter teams. besides ellis, i am thinking that there were >a couple of athletes on the team that ended up in the nfl as >well so they were loaded with pure skills and talent as >well. > >i am sure p diddy or even jalensdad can remember the >teamates, thinking there was victor scott and the big >marshall guy that got in trouble when in the nfl plus >phiffer kid that was a marvelous point guard. not sure why >he never did anything past high school. Victor Scott I believe was an outstanding football player at East St Louis Sr. Calvin Phiffer(Cincinnatti) was before Laphonso, he played on the 1982 State Champion Lincoln Team, which was Bennie Lewis' 1st championship. Some believe the 1982 team was Lewis' finest. The 1986-87 Lincoln team featured 3 Division 1 players in Laphonso Ellis(Notre Dame), James Harris(Temple), & Chris Rodgers(Creighton). Harris later went on to play in the NFL for the Raiders and the Rams. Harris was linked to some drug sting in St Louis but was later cleared. He never played a regular season game for the Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 who was the point guard if it wasnt phiffer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus aurelius Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The Bulldogs won 4 straight titles in the early 90's under coach Jim Bidewell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus aurelius Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Cuonzo was also on that squad. I believe he was a sophomore reserve or possibly a frosh. He starred at Purdue and spent some time in the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I think those Ritter teams with all the great players (White, Woods Carrawell,Evans) at least by where they went to ball college ball, only one 1 state championship. I recall they used to get beat by Portageville, who didn't have a player over 6'2" on their roster. My buddies and I had a theory that Preston Thomas, the Ritter coach, had an arragement with a car dealership that for every timeout he had left at the end of a game he got a discount as he was clueless. On kind of a different topic, I live in St Charles and got into large disucssions with folks out here who said Ryan Robertson was the best player that year in St Louis area. My arguement was it was Chris Carrawell who was a sophmore. This was before he hurt his shoulder. He could do it all. One MO class 2A championship with that roster, unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Phifer's son also player for East St. Louis. http://prepsports3.stltoday.com/basketball...s/roster66.shtm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p diddy Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 cuonzo martin was not on the first lincoln state team in '87. he was a freshman, but lincoln was a three-year high school at the time. he was on the '88 and '89 teams that won the titles. they finished third in '90 when he was a senior playing injured. phiefer played with the '82 team that featured tyrone jackson, todd porter and mark dale. the guards in '87 i believe were rodney chavis and a kid named chambers. i was in school in chicago then and saw some great teams like king, simeon, de sales, aurora east and lincoln beat them all. nobody in chi-town could believe that a team from downstate could win three state titles in a row, but lincoln did it. those guys were unbelievable. bad boyz for life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 who was the good point guard from lincoln that ended up at kstate and when did he play? I am thinking last name jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlee Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I believe it was Tyrone, or something that began with a "T" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlee Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 On page 164 of the book "Sweet Charlie, Dike, Cazzie, and Bobby Joe" - High School Basketball in Illinois, they list the guards as Lawrence Bradford and Mark Chambers. Even though I didn't grow up in Illinois I thoroughly enjoyed this book and highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujaysfan Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 ah yes - chris "cheese" rodgers... was a top 50-100 recruit coming out of ESL lincoln - but scored about 10 pts his whole career at CU after numerous knee injuries...i believe he is now an alderman or some sort of elected official in omaha. i don't know that cuonzo martin was on that squad - only a frosh if he was - i saw him play against my former high school over xmas break his senior year...he single handedly outscored the pioneers that night - was an impressive performance - and on another note - glad to see that he has beaten cancer and is starting a nice coaching career. those were some impressive teams out of lincoln at that time - a lot of national recognition... always big for us in the QC to beat teams out of chicago and the east st louis area - my fondest was kicking the crap out of altoff in 4a playoffs in 86 - but that was more for the classless fans/students than anything else (football). my brother lost to the 91 version of BA - hickey thompson was the star - and he was a damn good running back - never won the three heismans that he predicted though...think he flunked out of both michigan state and illinois state. i think at the time he was the all time rusher for the state of illinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsboys Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 In 1988 didn't Althoff have a great back court of Corey Cox and BC Perry. Those 2 kids could play but the coach at that time was a football guy and had no clue about hoops. That team could have had the best back court in a longtime. BRoy would probably know those kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalensdad2002 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 >who was the good point guard from lincoln that ended up at >kstate and when did he play? I am thinking last name >jackson? Your talking about 6'3inch Vincent"Action" Jackson. He was a 2-guard/sf and was the 1st player in the state to win 3 state championship. He hit the winning shot at the buzzer to beat Peoria Central for Lincoln's 3rd straight title. Tyrone Jackson went to K-State as a small forward.The point guard was a heady guy by the name of Rico Sylvester. He was the consumate point guard who always got others involved despite being a great shooter. He went on to SEMO. That team placed 5 starters into Division 1 programs Rico Sylvester-pg-SEMO Chris McKinney-sg-San Diego State Vincent Jackson-sg/sf-Kansas State by way of Moberly JC Counzo Martin-pf-Purdue Ronald "Tree" Harris-I forget what school, but he earned a Division 1 track scholarship after winning the shot put title as a senior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus aurelius Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 You beat me too it! Vincent also played at Moberly, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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