brianstl Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 40 minutes ago, JMM28 said: Most of the old guys retiring and blaming NIL are just angry that everyone gets to play the bag man game now, not just them. They had a great run, though. I don't think Saban retiring had anything to do with NIL. Saban is 72, his wife wanted to move to Florida and he got sick of having to replace coordinators yearly. Hell, it now appears players were giving Alabama a pretty big discount on NIL because they wanted to play for Saban. NIL really didn't change anything for Saban. MusicCityBilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 41 minutes ago, Soderball said: they become employees; i foresee a flurry of lawsuits if the ladies aren't getting the same payouts and so on. Good luck passing a law. The only real option is to BOTH: get rid of the "athletic department" as we know it in entirety, AND hire a team of professional football players for that specific purpose, like the NFL or UFL or whatever does. College sports can't survive full professionalization. That makes them a minor league and there won't be the money there once the public starts viewing them as a minor leagues. They won't be able to even afford the upkeep on their facilities much less pay players real money if that happens. The fact the athletes and most administrators don't seem to understand this is amazing. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 57 minutes ago, brianstl said: College sports can't survive full professionalization. That makes them a minor league and there won't be the money there once the public starts viewing them as a minor leagues. They won't be able to even afford the upkeep on their facilities much less pay players real money if that happens. The fact the athletes and most administrators don't seem to understand this is amazing. Not disagreeing, but the big variable here is that these schools have 100,000's of alum's, many willing and able to pour money into mercenaries. These money bags don't care who you are, or if you are even enrolled in school, as long as you were the right uniform and can score the ball. That won't change for a while. I don't see any such 'loyalty' for any minor league team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 hours ago, brianstl said: College sports can't survive full professionalization. That makes them a minor league and there won't be the money there once the public starts viewing them as a minor leagues. They won't be able to even afford the upkeep on their facilities much less pay players real money if that happens. The fact the athletes and most administrators don't seem to understand this is amazing. I'm talking Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, Kentucky. It's going to take at least a few generations to stop filling The Big House on the mich vs oh st game. You're thinking too much about basketball, which is miniscule vs college football, and about nobodies like SLU. In some of these cities it's the only "relevant" sports they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 27 minutes ago, Soderball said: I'm talking Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, Kentucky. It's going to take at least a few generations to stop filling The Big House on the mich vs oh st game. You're thinking too much about basketball, which is miniscule vs college football, and about nobodies like SLU. In some of these cities it's the only "relevant" sports they have. If the general public loses interest, it won’t take even a take a decade for the media rights that fund the beast to crater. The general public has never shown a sustained interest in something that is minor league and that is what college sports would be if it fully professionalized. Alumni are great, but interest from the general public is what drives the media rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Welcome, the Power 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 The genie is out of the bottle. No one getting money now (the biggees like Isiah Pack, Armando Bacot, Caleb Williams, et.al.) are going to let you replace all things into the bottle where they perceive they will suffer. Congress enacting a law is like a restraining order ---- most will walk right through it. In hindsight, the monthly stipend would have been a good idea. For a while. Until Phil Knight decided to fun all thew Oregon athletes. Or T. Boone Pickens. Or someone else. We ae where we are because the NCAA was slow on the uptake. Can't fix it now. broy has some good to great points but it just won't happen. Video did kill the radio star, y'know. willie likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 After over half a century of being used and abused by the system, the players finally have the leverage and rights they should have had all along. The law won't allow the NCAA to take away these rights, but market dynamics will settle and stabilize things in years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/sec-big-ten-advisory-group-stands-as-coded-threat-to-ncaa-figure-it-out-or-well-go-off-ourselves/ To me, here is the key paragraph: In essence, the two leagues are aiming to remodel what is left of the collegiate model. Don't like it? Well, you don't have to. If NCAA membership doesn't agree to their reforms, the SEC and Big Ten have the leverage to take their 34 teams and stage their own national championship. The networks and the market itself have told them that is possible, and it's a path which SEC commissioner Greg Sankey has already hinted at in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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