aj_arete Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 based on their draft selection. As for Larry Hughes, he is of course not a failure. Never said that he was. I just said that he hasn't lived up to his potential based on his lottery selection. Now if that's being negative, so be it... As for Bonner, he was a late 1st round draft pick and he had some solid NBA season w/ the Kings and Knicks. While never an established starter, I'd say he lived up to his potential. As for Dooling and Doug Smith, Dooling has been an obvious bust so far, while Smith was also a failure. As for Peeler, he met his expectations since I believe he was also picked relatively late in the first round. Peeler wasn't a lottery selection, so star status shouldn't have been expected from him. While great in college, his inability to go to his right and mediocre ballhandling are reasons why he was never a consistent starter. But he's a great shooter and a tremendous athlete and to play in the NBA as long as he has is a testament to his work ethic and perseverence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 It looks to me like you're still spinning things to look more positive for Missouri alumni and more negative for SLU alumni. I agree that I'd like to see more from Larry Hughes than what he's demonstrated so far, but I don't agree that Anthony Peeler lived up to my expectations. I expected him to be a starter and to average about as many points as or more points than Hughes has averaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 I am not a Mizzou or AP fan ... but on what would you base your expectations of AP matching LH in productivity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Maybe it's because I AM a Mizzou and Peeler fan that I had those expectations, but I'm telling you honestly that I expected more out of Peeler than he has turned out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwd789 Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 This will be Peeler's 11th year in the NBA I believe. He must be doing something right. He's been mostly a solid role player for his career. But I think he did have a few years with Vancouver where he averaged 18 pts or so, when he had a chance to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU8592 Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Here's a link where you can post a tribute to Peeler and people will care. http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/list.php?board=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 as much as everyone knows i hate missouri, i too have to say that anthony peeler has been a big nba success. to still be around 11 years later is an awesome accomplishment. too often fans seem to think that if a player isnt on the way to the hall of fame in a couple of years the player should be scrapped and bring in the next high schooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted October 9, 2003 Author Share Posted October 9, 2003 that yielded Anthony Peeler is still in the game? I doubt many of them are still playing and Peeler's longevity in the NBA is impressive. Especially when you consider his ballhandling skills... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 But that doesn't change the fact that I initially expected more production from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 >This will be Peeler's 11th year in the NBA I believe. He >must be doing something right. He's been mostly a solid role >player for his career. But I think he did have a few years >with Vancouver where he averaged 18 pts or so, when he had a >chance to start. Peelers career hig in ppg is 14.5 in 96-97 w/vancouver. He averaged just over 14 in his injury shortened second year with the Lakers. He has career averages of over 10 ppg. He is on the Kings now, and has been a one of the better reserves in the league the past few years with the T-Wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 >that yielded Anthony Peeler is still in the game? I doubt >many of them are still playing and Peeler's longevity in the >NBA is impressive. Especially when you consider his >ballhandling skills... Here is the first round from Peeler's year First Round Player College 1. Orlando Shaquille O'Neal Louisiana State 2. Charlotte Alonzo Mourning Georgetown 3. Minnesota Christian Laettner Duke 4. Dallas Jimmy Jackson Ohio State 5. Denver LaPhonso Ellis Notre Dame 6. Washington Tom Gugliotta North Carolina State 7. Sacramento Walt Williams Maryland 8. Milwaukee Todd Day Arkansas 9. Philadelphia Clarence Weatherspoon Southern Mississippi 10. Atlanta Adam Keefe Stanford 11. Houston Robert Horry Alabama 12. Miami Harold Miner USC 13. Denver (from N.J.) Bryant Stith Virginia 14. Indiana Malik Sealy St. John's 15. LA Lakers Anthony Peeler Missouri 16. LA Clippers Randy Woods La Salle 17. Seattle Doug Christie Pepperdine 18. San Antonio (1) Tracy Murray UCLA 19. Detroit (2) Don MacLean UCLA 20. New York Hubert Davis North Carolina 21. Boston Jon Barry Georgia Tech 22. Phoenix Oliver Miller Arkansas 23. Milwaukee (from Utah) Lee Mayberry Arkansas 24. Golden State Latrell Sprewell Alabama 25. LA Clippers (from Cle.) Elmore Spencer Nevada-Las Vegas 26. Portland David Johnson Syracuse 27. Chicago Byron Houston Oklahoma State 15 of the 27 players are still in the league. Only 5 drafted after Peeler, and 2 were huge steals, Sprewell and Christie, Murray is barely still in the league, Barry is a decent role player similar to Peeler and Davis is a hanger on 3 point specialist. One more Malik Sealy died a couple years ago and he would probably still be in the league if he were alive. In retrospect Peeler is right where he belongs, I would rank him as the 15th best player in this group maybe 14th. When compared to other drafts, Peeler looks like a pretty good pick 1990 12. Houston (1) Alec Kessler Georgia 13. LA Clippers (from Cleveland) Loy Vaught Michigan 14. Sacramento (from Indiana) Travis Mays Texas 15. Miami (from Denver) (2) Dave Jamerson Ohio 16. Milwaukee Terry Mills Michigan 17. New York Jerrod Mustaf Maryland 18. Sacramento (from Dallas) Duane Causwell Temple 1991 12. New York Greg Anthony Nevada-Las Vegas 13. Indiana Dale Davis Clemson 14. Seattle Rich King Nebraska 15. Atlanta (1) Anthony Avent Seton Hall 16. Golden State (from Phi.) Chris Gatling Old Dominion 17. Golden State Victor Alexander Iowa State 18. Milwaukee (2) Kevin Brooks SW Louisiana 1992 12. Miami Harold Miner USC 13. Denver (from N.J.) Bryant Stith Virginia 14. Indiana Malik Sealy St. John's 15. LA Lakers Anthony Peeler Missouri 16. LA Clippers Randy Woods La Salle 17. Seattle Doug Christie Pepperdine 18. San Antonio (1) Tracy Murray UCLA 1993 12. LA Lakers George Lynch North Carolina 13. LA Clippers Terry Dehere Seton Hall 14. Indiana Scott Haskin Oregon State 15. Atlanta Doug Edwards Florida State 16. New Jersey Rex Walters Kansas 17. Charlotte Greg Graham Indiana 18. Utah Luther Wright Seton Hall 1994 12. Miami Khalid Reeves Arizona 13. Denver Jalen Rose Michigan 14. New Jersey Yinka Dare George Washington 15. Indiana Eric Piatkowski Nebraska 16. Golden State (from Cle.) Cliff Rozier Louisville 17. Portland Trail Aaron McKie Temple 18. Milwaukee (from Orlando) Eric Mobley Pittsburgh 1995 12. Dallas Cherokee Parks Duke 13. Sacramento Corliss Williamson Arkansas 14. Boston Eric Williams Providence 15. Denver (1) Brent Barry Oregon State 16. Atlanta Alan Henderson Indiana 17. Cleveland Bob Sura Florida State 18. Detroit (from Portland) Theo Ratliff Wyoming In the 5 drafts around Peeler's draft, he looks like a top pick for his spot. Comapare all the 15 picks; Jamerson, Edwards, Avent, Peeler, Piatkowski, and Barry. Peeler is the second best 15 pick in the 5 years around his draft, with Brent Barry being the only player who has had a better career than Peeler, Piatkowski is also close but not quite. The other were lucky to make a team out of camp. This also shows what small success rate there is with picks around Peeler's. Look at the 90 draft, Vaught and Mills are the only two to have any impact and neither had a career as good as Peeler's. The 91 group, Anthony and Davis are still playing, neither are stars but Davis ahs a better career than Peeler's, none of the other guys played more than a couple years in the NBA. 92 turned out to be a much deeper year than the two previous with Stith, Sealy, Peeler, Chritie and Murray all playing in the league for at least 5 years. 93 was a terrrible year only producing one decent player Lynch, the rest all washouts. 94 had one star, Rose, and two good players in Mckie and Piatkowski all others sucked. 95 was very deep, while no real stars, everyone as of last year was in still in the NBA as a regular player. Put into context Peeler was a pretty good pick and compared to other guys has a very productive career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 wow! great research and great post. who can argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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