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Hopefully that team around Bess is wearing Billiken jerseys.

+1 I am always quick to blame Chris for systemic problems that exist at the top institutional level and outside the AD. It is tendency that I will probably continue to exhibit.

I am more curious how many other Christopher Winston cases (where it appears a black male is being singled out by Weathers) are out there. I am sure with some good research a lot of it will be found.

I thought we all have faith in Chris May's leadership. Certainly he has developed a plan already for handling this entire situation. I am sure we will do great in his capable hands. I am sure the school will be fine with just going with the status quo for as long as possible. Big, bold changes is not really what SLU does. The passage of time will eventually allow the Athletic Department and the school to recover from this.

SLU has a history of losing lawsuits or settling. Here in a premeditated and consensual activity, the school decided the white women were victims and the black men were the violators. They increased the damages to the black men by delaying the decision until the 2nd semester. They were moved in and out of their homes multiple times. A number of other problems will be found. During litigation the errors will be painted as malice against the boys and not the incompetence that it really is. SLU will be buried in their lawsuit.

I am fascinated to know how the school decides who is the victim and who is the perpetrator in what was a consensual activity. Of course the historical default is to blame the black men and declare the white women as the victims. I will be curious to see if SLU did a good job contrasting how one party was defined as the victim and the other as the perpetrators. If the deciding line is post event regret, I bet the boys are full of regret now.

Don’t forget SLU has a history of losing these lawsuits. It will also just look very bad as the lawsuits push details into the public realm.

Shame they could not see that killing basketball for 3+ years wasn’t a good idea. It’s also a shame they couldn’t just do the right thing for the sake of doing the right thing.

This isn’t incompetence, it is just playing out the string until the decision is final and goes into effect.

The decision is made, but not finalized. The time to submit an appeal is open, but if not appealed the decision becomes final. If the appeal is filed (which it will be), the decision becomes final and goes into effect immediately when the appeal is denied.

They have options and even with them we are an 9-11 win team next year. They can also go and play for a tournament teams as I am sure a new home will be easy to find. They are gone if Gordon is gone.

After this season ends, we will only have French and JJ returning from those playing. Santos will become eligible. Hopefully we keep 1-2 of our current recruits. Ford has 8+ scholarships to fill. Ponder that for a while. If Ford stays, next year will be his fourth losing season in a row. The year after will be his fifth. This decision has poisoned the well for local recruiting. Lets see how well Ford can recruit while he is carrying the stigma of 5 losing seasons in a row. Not too mention the Athletic Department will be losing our old NCAA credits and donors can’t be that enthused (so I imagine the Athletic budget will be shrinking).

Next year you can probably remove Bess and Foreman. Plus Roby graduates. Plus we might be releasing LOIs. Even without Goodwin, this might be a high water mark.

This years team might be the best team SLU puts on the court for the next several years. We should appreciate them for as long as we can.

They need to be kicked out in order to have a chance to play immediately next year at their new school. I also cannot swear it’s true. I just heard it and it being accurate on one expulsion and that all 4 would be punished increased its credibility to me in hindsight. I mostly dismissed it because of it mentioning 4 players being harshly punished. Either way, it hardly matters now.

Our best hope is we have 3 returning players next year in JJ, French, and Santos. If we are lucky we will keep 2 of our current recruits. This is as bad as it gets. I don’t even think Fords recruiting skills will be able to bridge that gap. He has 8+ scholarships to fill this Spring.

French, JJ, Pearson, Santos, and maybe Thatch could be our ENTIRE team next year. The rest will be walk ons and people willing to jump into this mess. We may not even have the players listed above.

That situation occurred with the best freshman class in well over 20 years taking the court. This situation empties out our talent, most likely costs us Gordon, and makes future recruiting much more difficult. It might be 3-5 years before the team is even good enough to finish at or above .500. We could reasonably lose these fourS2 players, Bess, Foreman, Gordon, and even Thatch next year. Who knows maybe Santos and Pearson leave. I think only Santos on that list would have to sit out a year. I am also assuming SLU does the right thing and releases players from their LOIs. While it is emotional right now, I don’t think I am overstating the damage done. I am maybe too optimistic in thinking Ford doesn’t give up and also walk away.

I will gladly root for Goodwin regardless of what team he goes to. I’d even jump to Mizzou for him.

Because SLU is incompetent. I could definitely be wrong too as I was just hearing whispers. What I still can’t get over is the girls did WAY more than consent. According to Rosenblum, there is clear evidence the group sex was a fully premeditated decision by them. It was not a spur of the moment thing by them.

The amazing new info seems to be the tangible evidence showing the girls were pre-planning their group sex and clearly were not only consenting, but went further to making it a premeditated act.

I heard before the Richmond game from someone connected to the Board of Trustees that 3 would be suspended and 1 expelled. I even mentioned after that the 4 players (not 3) were all at risk. I don’t think the decision was changed. I think it was predetermined a long time ago. It’s a terrible shame the timing ensures the kids suffer even greater damage as they could all be in new schools by now.

This is more appropriately put. It would put a stain on Ford that would stay with him if he did not ensure Gordon was released.

It would be another garbage move by SLU not to release him if he requests it. This is NOT what he signed up for. The only bigger garbage move was waiting until the first week of the new semester to railroad the S2 kids to ensure the incurred maximum damage.

Maybe Lindenwood would have interest in buying Chaifetz Arena?