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On 5/18/2025 at 8:17 PM, slu72 said:
Is the A10 finished at Barclay?
I think for the time being. Attendance isn't great and I think a lot of alumni balk at the cost of staying in New York for 4+ days. Brooklyn is by far my favorite spot for it to be played, but I think we'll see more tourneys in the mid-atlantic and maybe mid-west in the coming years.
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4 hours ago, slu72 said:
A good warmup schedule so far. But for the next 7-8 games let’s get games from the best mid major conferences. I agree that our likely only way to a dance invite is to win it all in Brooklyn, but we need to provide the fans with some better OOC games just to generate interest in the program.
Side note: the 2026 A10 Tournament will be in Pittsburgh.
I'd like to see a couple MVC schools on the schedule (as usual) - SIUC (which should be an annual match-up) with at least one of Bradley, Murray St., Illinois St., or Belmont. Also Missouri St. will be C-USA next season - it would be good to have them in a regular rotation now that they represent a different conference.
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3 hours ago, Bay Area Billiken said:
The NIT is the de facto D1-AA Tourney.
If by D1-AA you mean "mid-major" then yes. But the NIT's status as the de facto #2 tourney is being credibly challenged by the College Basketball Crown.
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Congrats JGood! Really impressive.
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1 hour ago, CenHudDude said:
Thanks for breaking this down. Do you believe in miracles?
LaSalle beating Saint Joe's, even at home, would indeed be miraculous.
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56 minutes ago, thatskablamo said:
In 2002-2003, a 15-12 regular season SLU team made the NIT. It’s fully possible. Maybe the requirements have changed, but UB got us in during his inaugural campaign.
We were in a better conference then. C-USA sent 4 teams to the NCAA that year, giving us the best record of any team not to go. We ended the regular season on a 7-0 run, including wins over #2 Louisville and at Cincy. We also had an earlier win over Dayton, who by Selection Sunday was ranked #20.
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Was holding out hope for SLU to stay on a narrow path to the NIT. Would have been fun for Schertz, Swope, Avila and Co. to make another deep run in it. That seems to be fully off the table now. Now back to everything riding on an A10 tournament championship.
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We've got unfinished CBI business after losing in the 2010 final!
- Crewsorlose and CenHudDude
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On 12/16/2024 at 5:45 PM, kshoe said:
Taking the optimistic view, hopefully he wasn't in a position to effect the result of Oregon State getting demoted (I'm not sure God himself could have saved Oregon State and Washington State once the dominos started falling) but maybe he was able to observe through the demotion just how important athletics are to the soul and prestige of a University and will do everything in his power to help SLU.
I'll take the optimistic view as well. I think the experience of having been in the eye of the storm of conference realignment can only help.
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5 minutes ago, slufanskip said:
I’ve never seen a team let the clock run out down just 8 with 30 seconds left
Especially this early in the season when at the very least it's a learning opportunity for foul situations and close games down the road.
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What's "stake mediocrity"?
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9 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said:
If there are good solutions to the challenges faced by schools like SLU then why are so many schools not exercising them?
That's just the thing! A lot of schools are exercising them. It's SLU that's coming up short. Let's take a look at games scheduled against P5 and D-II schools by teams that finished in the bottom 2/3 of the A10 last year:
- Duquesne - P5 Games: 1, D-II games: 1
- Bonnies - 1, 1
- George Mason - 2, 1
- St. Joseph - 3, 0
- LaSalle - 1, 1
- Rhode Island - 1, 1
- Fordham - 3 (possibly 4), 1
- Davidson - 2, 1
- SLU - 0, 2
- GW - 1, 1
One team has the least P5 games and most D-II games.
- NextYearBill and Crewsorlose
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1 hour ago, ACE said:
Yep, Ford talked about it his last couple years here. I know his name is a four-letter word, but he was right, because Schertz is saying the exact same thing about the challenges of scheduling for programs like SLU. Home-homes against schools like Seton Hall, Auburn and Kansas State will likely be a thing of the past. There is absolutely no incentive for P6 schools to schedule those any more. Neutral site games are about our only chance. Scheduling games against quality teams, but not big name opponents, like Utah State and Boise State is about the best we're going to be able to do. This issue is bigger than SLU, it's about the state of college basketball.
I agree with all of that. If home-homes are a thing of the past, neutral sites are hard to schedule, and MTEs are unreliable, it might be worth considering away games (gasp!), which can be better for NET and not much different than a neutral site game from a fan perspective. There are good solutions to the challenges faced by schools like SLU, and none of them include playing two D-II games. Regional match-ups and rivalries should be nurtured. There was nothing wrong with playing SIU-C every year. Other folks have called for Bradley and/or Drake. Missouri St. is in a new conference. We now have two potential D-I cross-town opponents. P5 teams may have "absolutely no incentive" to schedule us (for home-homes), the same goes for us scheduling D-II programs (at all). That's what the pre-season/exhibitions are for.
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On 10/4/2024 at 5:13 PM, White Pelican said:
Maybe it's just coach-speak, but Schertz seems fine with it.
I'm excited about the Schertz hire, but, if true, that's disappointing. I'd like to have a coach who wants to play the best and fire up the fans (which I believe Schertz did in Terre Haute). I'm sure there are political/personnel reasons that he might acquiesce to the schedule, so I suppose he gets a bit of a pass. But being okay with this year's schedule is not okay. It'd be better to have someone say "Yeah, the schedule isn't where we'd like it to be, for the players or the fans, but we're going to make the most of it."
I'm not really interested in excuses like being bad last year or Ford leaving - Romar, Soderberg, Majerus, Crews, and Ford all had better first season schedules in a variety of circumstances. And there's really no use in finger pointing at anyone individually (Ford, May, Schertz, an Assistant Coach, etc...). Billikens basketball is first and foremost a marketing tool for SLU. The Athletic Department and basketball program have collectively undermined that purpose by putting together a garbage schedule. There will be fewer butts in seats, eyeballs on games, and general awareness and excitement around SLU and the Billikens because of it. They let the fans and school down. Hopefully this schedule is a one-off anomaly. But it's also a failure and should be called out.
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Surprised there hasn't been more chatter about this year's garbage dump of a schedule. It hurts our chances at an at-large and does nothing to generate fan interest/excitement. Non-D1 games contribute nothing to NET and we're playing two of them. Wichita St, Illinois St, and San Francisco were all under .500 last year (in conference and overall). Loyola Marymount got bumped out of the NIT in the first round. Santa Clara didn't make it to the NIT. The only one of those five we play at home is Loyola Marymount.
It's the worst non-con this century. You have to go back to '95 - when we played a bad LSU team and no one else - to find anything remotely comparable.
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On 7/11/2024 at 5:36 PM, almaman said:
except for JG I am only concerned with how much all our former players r making. If fellow posters do post try to include salaries. way back it seemed like if u didn't make NBA u just loved the game & played for peanuts. Since Lisch's career DO it's seems there is a reasonable amount of coin 2 b had
What's "DO"?
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This schedule leaves us at the mercy of the A10 being strong this year. You need name wins to make a case to the committee and we won't have any opportunities to get them in non-conference.
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Sounds like it'll be a lackluster non-conference. However, if one season of no P5 opponents results in a recurring annual MTE in St. Louis, then I'm for it.
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10 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:
I guess my point is that both of those accomplishments are deserving of an NCAA Tournament Bid? IMO the regular season more so.
Got it. Yeah, I'm on board with that. Get the bid for winning the season, and then just get the banner/trophy for winning the conference tourney. But to ACE's point, no one would care about the OVC, MVC, etc.... conference finals if it didn't carry that weight. Whereas right now they at least get a little national attention and television. Then again, maybe folks would tune into the regular season more if it had tourney implications.
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7 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:
I think we're on the same page, I guess I'm assuming those who win their league will be in the situation you described.
I don't think that's a good assumption to make. ISU had an excellent NET (28). The top NETs in some conferences were terrible SWAC (Southern U - 257), MEAC (Norfolk St - 223), NEC (Merrimack - 213), MAAC (Quinnipiac - 160). If those teams win their conference, but not their conference tourney, I don't see much of a reason to give them a bid. No need to reward winning both a terrible conference and a terrible conference tourney.
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If the tournament expands to 76 I hope the NCAA revisits Dayton always hosting the First Four. The favoritism toward Indianapolis by the NCAA is more than enough. No need to give Dayton special treatment as well. There are plenty of small American cities that would be great hosts for any "play-ins."
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36 minutes ago, johnbj14 said:
Count me in the camp of it’s never going to happen. It’s just really difficult to look at the results over the history of the program and see SLU moving the needle at all for the Big East.
Fortunately "results" is just one consideration of many when it comes to conference expansion.
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This tells me that Hurley is doing things the right way. Perhaps no one's hands are 100% clean in the NCAA these days (or maybe they are since the money is now allowed!?), but the guys with skeletons in the closet take the money and run.
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15 hours ago, Lord Elrond said:
St Louis, Mizzou, Missouri State, Bradley. A tournament like that would load up downtown St Louis, and have the advantage of getting St Louis and Mizzou on the same court. You can’t tell me that wouldn’t fill things up.Could also take it to 8 teams with different regional (or at least drivable) conferences represented:
A10: SLU
SEC: Mizzou
C-USA: Mo State
Oh Valley: Lots
Mo Valley: Lots
Sunbelt: Arkansas State
Summit: UMKC
ASUN: Bellarmine, Lipscomp, Austin Peay, Central Arkansas
O.T. Pac 12 a Power Conference or Mid Major?
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In terms of basketball I think the new Pac 12 is lined up to be the best mid-major. Outside the P5, but above the American, A10, and diminished Mountain West and West Coast.