DoctorB

Speaking truthfully: I have no idea what this means. Try again, perhaps using simpler words ... or maybe it means that only "ivory tower types" would find any of this morally problematic?

irony, right? Yeah I heard about that. Let's see how all that works out. But the argument here goes a little like this: "Gee, Ma, all the other boys are jumping off of buildings, you do realize that, right???" I don't think it is unreasonable, or obtuse, to question these issues, especially with amateurs, as cases and hospitalizations continue to spike. That is all...

I'm hearing similar questions being raised. Also that we may know more by the weekend.

not my take, from the article. The other thing nobody mentions here is the whole issue of playing at all, or doing so under what conditions? "So the show must go on. The pressure to attract elite players, win games, and satisfy boosters remains strong." Not just sham recruiting/ cheating. But the URGENCY to schedule games. Is it ethical???

This morning, Jeff Gordon says in public what I'm concerned about -- anyone else?? Trust me I want to see the Bills as much as anyone. But as an educator I'm concerned about all these moral questions too, not to mention how comfortable we've all become with the corruption and the $$$$ angles... And ps: I recognize immediately how political all this can become. I couldn't care less about the "politics," but I do have moral questions; anyone else? best lines: "So the show must go on. The pressure to attract elite players, win games, and satisfy boosters remains strong. As reporter Pat Forde noted in Sports Illustrated, cheating continues unabated despite a federal bribery probe that produced multiple convictions of talent brokers and assistant coaches. Phone surveillance during that federal probe captured vivid examples of the cash-and-carry commerce. The HBO documentary “The Scheme” hung that dirty laundry out for all to see." https://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordo-college-basketballs-money-grab-continues-despite-pandemic/article_e2583041-bb14-5cdc-9fcc-f2ede045abec.html

nm: yes he's enrolled; and ps: his official surname is Jonsson Lorentsson.

hilarious. idiot boosters whose day is made by shaming me. but at least I can spell hilarious.

I stand corrected

Lorentssen is still not enrolled, from what I understand. Not sure what's up with all that, but in the immortal words of Coach Norman Dale, "My team is on the floor..."

I am hoping you are wrong; but my sense is that things are deteriorating rapidly, and the fall semester may turn into a disaster. So yes, sadly, you may turn out to be right. I've been granted permission from the Dean to do online classes for Fall 2020, and the new schedule just finalized & released yesterday shows that a goodly number of my colleagues are as well. Still, we should have a better picture of how the "petrie dishes" of college dorms (not to mention the public schools) will ply their effects on the local ER's (both here in STL and nationally) by about the end of September. Then, the flu season may be on tap, along with another round of Corona. The MLB/ NHL reboots will also show us some things about the "bubbles" of team sports. What a mess; I just never dreamed we would escalate back up so rapidly... I wonder how this will all turn out?

I'm using Spectrum for Wifi, which is good service. Now we are looking at bundling, because Sprint is extremely high for cell phones (300-400/ month, my wife does a lot of international calling and online stuff with her phone...) For TV, we need both FoxSports Midwest & TV Japan/ NHK. Altogether the amount we spend $$$ on TV, Wifi, phones, and so forth is really high. Who can suggest a great bundle deal including FoxSports Midwest & TV Japan/ NHK? Yeah I know annoying. But Cardinals are warming up and the Grand Sumo tournament begins in one week!! Time to pull the trigger; Spectrum is looking pretty good right now...

We absolutely hammered Richmond at the end of the year, without GJ. Fred, the new Europeans, Markhi, etc. Honestly I get how they would be rated over us from afar, but everyone on here knows that we will continue to pummel them this year. Am I missing something or does pretty much everyone on here concur; we are the team to beat in the A10?

I'm just being honest in saying; I have serious doubts about the season. There appears to be a domino effect with these things, and just yesterday they cancelled the NFL HOF game (too bad for the Rev. Ike). Meanwhile numbers of cases and so forth are going up and should continue right into fall and winter. I'm hoping this will not shock anyone but there's a good chance some or all of the basketball season will be lost. Like the cheeseman, I truly hope I'm wrong, about all this; but I think universities like SLU will err on the side of caution and the NCAA will do the right thing and extend eligibility.

Yes, got stuck with 2 more years on my contract w/ Dishnet, which is generally OK, but they dropped FSMW and there's evidently no end of that dispute in sight (I was told twice now, most recently at Christmas, that this would be resolved shortly...). anyone else out there looking for alternatives, as the Cardinals get warmed up for some baseball? I thought SlingTV would work at a reasonable price but they dropped it too. I hate shelling out $50 a month for HuluPlus, just for baseball, Blues Hockey, and whatever Billikens games end up on FSMW... of course I can always just hide the bill from my parsimonious/ penurious/ penny-pinching wife.

Wow, this is really sad, my condolences to the family and friends, and his players and colleagues out at the school in IL. Much too early, this is really sad to hear about... He was terrific that one year especially, 1999-2000, which was one of my first years at SLU, and a great run; Justin brought a lot of energy onto the floor. Over the years he's still one of the best scorers we've had in my time at SLU, a great shooter! More importantly: Justin was a good guy, happy and generous in spirit.

or any of it, ever. I doubt if I'm the only one wanting a digest of this material; but if so I guess you all just have a lot more time on your hands. It was an innocent question, just wondering. Often HoosierPal and others give a useful digest of the radio shows, for those not able to catch it; how is this different?? I don't get the pushback...

For those of us unwilling to take in 2.5 hours of this sort of thing: any highlights? new info?? updates on players/ summer workouts??? Gimme the 45-second version, please!

I get that -- much more was at stake. Hateful & dreadful loss; but I have a confession to make here and now: oddly, uncannily, I just had a feeling all along that the Flyers were going to figure out a way to win it, and beat us. It's that sickening feeling I have had at least a dozen times with Tom Brady and the NE Unpatriots....

The ending against Davidson, year before last, with Jordan G. missing free throws, at the wire, also felt like a huge loss right at the end...

As for the eastsiders: Goodwin is the best I've seen along with KL; & TJ Hargrove may be the next one -- he is going to be good, and he's got a terrific attitude. I liked Liddell and felt like he would be a great player but for whatever reasons, I ended up feeling like his career was a bit of a disappointment. Many of us had really high expectations for Tommie, but life is challenging, and sadly the exaggerated expectations did not pan out like I hoped. Sorry to say this out loud, & just being honest; but he is not in the vicinity of the JG & KL.

Thanks for sharing this. 22 years here at SLU --so far!!-- and Kevin remains my all-time favorite player @ SLU. (He unfortunately did not have much help in his time here...) Great guy, tremendous competitor; when I think of him I remember sitting in the old Pine gym, mid summer, no air conditioning, with those huge mega fans rumbling at the end of the gym. Just a regular pick up game in 100 degree & humid STL summer, no coaches around -- but boy, he could take control of a game, he wanted to win each possession; and was such a huge presence as a leader. I think it was his unusual passion and his commitment that was off the charts; and how far he came indicates that (he was not very big, and I don't think he ever dunked, but I may be wrong). Kudos on a terrific career--every Billiken should aspire to Kevin's heart of a champion.

School will get sued, I flat out guarantee it. Presidents and admins are planning for the worst, legally speaking. Winning a lawsuit vs. massive out of court settlements for wrongful death -- splitting haris? Well--inquiring minds want to know! But we shall see. Even Forbes is weighing in on this... https://www.forbes.com/sites/annaesakismith/2020/05/18/who-is-responsible-if-a-university-reopens-and-a-student-dies-from-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR2HiQYiCDTkNHozAVKWPGuPID_2QVHtgT58k2ANMNHrjr95s399fCKEcB8#457f198520a3

Plus, there's, you know; stuff like this: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2M2l82ZHzplBJI1P04IrgPLNdNQFx3QW4S0Acgw6K5JwAc3iHoQ2j1sF4

speaking of which: did anyone else on here check out Prof. Scott Galloway on CNN last night; holy cajones. that was a riveting panel discussion, revealing a lot of the problems with the "business model" of higher ed; and sign me up for a class with that dude. I agree with almost all that the says; his astute analysis is spot on; but there's still much denial in higher ed circles. FWIW, SLU would be a tier 2 school, in terms of his analysis, I think...

No worries, nitpick away; not in this email but the chairs have been told, after this email was sent out, it's "almost certain." The president and admin have been testing the waters like this a lot -- sending out trial balloons... I don't know if it makes more sense or not. But credit/ contact hours must be met one way or the other, long term.