Old guy

As far as academic teaching hospitals go, many of them that have worldwide fame as centers of advanced medicine are located right smack in portions of the city that are plainly not safe. This is (or was) the case with Johns Hopkins hospital where the facilities as far back as the time when I was interviewing for intenship spots were guarded by 10 feet chain link fences with double stranded barbed wire on top, and the medical campus had guards with dogs and shotguns (this is the 1970s, I have no idea what it is like now). These are places that have world level medical reputations and attract a lot of researchers and conferences, despite the fences, guards, and dogs. SLU Hospital is located in a much nicer area than Johns Hopkins Hospital is but needs the connections with SSM to grow its academic reputation. Pestello is very good!

In all of this discussion about SLU Hospital, the city, BJC and its move west, there is one factor that appears to have been missed, and that is the SSM linkup. SSM is a large consortium of hospitals in the metropolitan area, and maybe beyond (I do not know how far they extend). The important thing in the linkage with SSM is that SLU which gets a seat in SSM and apparently a vote, will become the academic underpinning of the SSM organization. This is a wonderful piece of news since it allows the academic activities of SLU (in Medical issues) to expand beyond the core metropolitan area of Saint Louis. This will create a position for the SLU hospital as the tertiary facility place where the tough cases and the academic research take place. From the point of view of SLU it could not be a better development.

Did not say much. He did say that he is looking for the coach and staff that makes him feel most comfortable as part of their team, or something like this.

I do not know if this rumor is true or not. What I do know is that should Tatum decide to go elsewhere, we will not be finished, or dead, or buried, we will still be a good program working hard to get better. This is not a binary situation, great or terrible, all dependent on one person's decision. I hope he comes, I would be delighted if he does, I will be upset if he does not come, but if he goes elsewhere it will not be a disaster of the magnitude some in this board are talking about.

Correction, Francis Xavier died in China. Many catholic converts and members of the order were martyred in Japan. He was a personal friend of Ignatius Loyola.

The Jesuits had a long history of peaceful work aiming towards conversion among native peoples. They did try their best to improve their lives through religion and education. For example the Guarani in southern Brazil were converted and educated by the Jesuits. They formed a nation, the only native nation to come out of South America, Paraguay. Paraguay was very large and controlled the mouth of the River Plate. They were put down, destroyed and dismembered by an alliance of Brazil, Argentina and Chile in the late XIX century after the US Civil War. Paraguay, still true to is Guarani roots, was reduced to a tiny and very poor country but remains the only country in South America with true Native South American roots. It is interesting that the Mexicans after having been absorbed and totally subjugated by the Spaniards managed to return to a condition of honoring their native roots. I have to assume the Jesuits were involved in this somehow. DeSmet was not doing anything that the Jesuits had not done before. Francis Xavier himself was martyred in Japan after the Shogunate decided to exterminate Catholicism (Jesuit missions had succeeded converting large numbers of Japanese, including important lords) in in the islands.

Agree kshoe

Sorry hsmith, I posted before seeing your post. Thank you very much. I am in full agreement with the distinction you make about statues and memorials based upon the purpose of the memorial.

Oh, I think objects are emotion lightning rods, like politics. Emotion is internal, it is not material or objective. I think that in order to create a future that is good and available to everyone, we must treat these objects for what they are, things of the past, dusty and dirty (after generations of pigeon droppings in the case of statues) and not representative of the now or of the future. The theory of "never forgive, never forget" is the basis for a lot of suffering and conflict, atrocities even. Indeed if we want a better world, we must forgive and forget. Did Christ not preach the value of turning the other cheek? Is this not what Dr. Pestello do during the occupation of SLU last year?

Moytoy I will agree with you that I am not educated in this front as you say. I apologize for offending you and your people, this was not my intention.

You know guys, I have been reading this thread and think many of you believe there is a right and a wrong that never changes, it is the same forever. Nothing is forever people, it is like marriage, not forever, not for many of us anyways. Let me say a few things and then I will be through. If you go to a museum and see Mayan or Aztec pottery you will see art showing priests taking living hearts out of captives chests, you will see kings drinking captives blood out of ceremonial cups. This is terrible stuff, but once upon a time it was a sign of power, a sign of piety even (to their very bloodthirsty gods). Nowadays it is nothing other than an ugly picture of some guy drinking blood out of a ceremonial cup. Once upon a time Missouri was a slave state and there were lots of people in St. Louis that supported the South. They would have liked to make the State go with the Confederacy but could not bring it to pass. They pined and suffered with every defeat of the Southern Armies, and they suffered even more with the emancipation... This was 150 years ago, the fight for equality is not complete yet, but these people are gone. What they left behind in terms of statues, or monuments is nonsense now, just a historical note to a lifestyle and a culture that is gone forever. NO ONE can bring this back. Do not take me wrong, I am not supporting what these people thought and devoted their lives to 150 years ago. I think it was an act of divine providence that the Union retained Missouri, Maryland, Delaware and Kentucky on their side and that the South did not or could not do what they aimed to do. There is no new message here, what is done is done. All the statues and paintings that offend so many of us are nothing but the past. We should not look there, we should look to the future and only to the future. A Bomb, your experiences with colonialism are true and probably very disturbing, even terrible. There is a lot of evil in this world, however we must look forward to a better day and try our best to get there, the past is gone. As far as I know, no one culture engages in ritual killing and blood drinking any longer, we (as in the human race) have gone beyond that. Please if you have a chance go see the battlefield at Gettysburg. Amazing place, every state that had troops (and thousands of dead there) made their own monument in their memory. Both South and North are united in this beautiful and bloody place forever. This is where we come from, not where we are going to. This is the past, not the future. We had segregated Northern and Southern regiments until WWI when we got the Rainbow division made out of Northern and Southern units. We had segregated black and white units until Nam when we fought together in the same units. Progress is slow but it happens. We have shown we can fight and bleed together. We are all green now in the Army, not black and white. Is it too much to expect that the country will follow on the steps of the armed forces? We should all be proud to be American, and to know our country is capable of making terrible mistakes, but also it is capable to change and seek solutions for its problems. The important thing is to work to make the future better, together. Memorial day always brings lots of thoughts to my mind, I apologize if I offended anyone.

Enterprise and Avis but you have to reserve in advance. They bring the dogs from Fairbanks, Alaska, they are not cheap.

eastsidejoe they will be sophomores by then, the freshmen will be Neufeld, Bishop, and Welmer.

The board goes into meltdown mode not infrequently. I agree that with or without JT we will rebuild our team and make it competitive. It is a matter of determination and hard work for all involved. Lucky draws are nice but you cannot count on them.

He needs all the support he can get, make no mistake. He is fighting the toughest fight of his life, let's hope and pray he reaches an acceptable plateau. Rehab is one of the most wonderful and most difficult occupations, those professionals do wonderful things but they cannot do miracles.

Doctor B, glad you talk about your experiences at SLU and Big Ten and made the comparison of lightning vs a light bug. I guess the difference for the prospective student (and his parents) should be based upon the value they place on education and on their ideas of how it would be best to prepare their kids for life. I know the NBA goal blinds kids and their families with visions of vast success and lots of money, but the reality is that there are very few kids that can assume a priori they will make it to the NBA. For most other kids playing basketball in a D1 program offers no guarantee to make the NBA. For these kids, the ones that are not certain NBA candidates, a college degree and education is the best way to prepare for life.

I hope you are right Dwayne's_World

If you are going to ask for anything, why not asking for this kind of recruits?

I think we may be stereotyping the various students getting scholarships a bit much here. Yes, athletes getting scholarships are required to go through a grueling schedule of practice, gym, play, travel, summer activities, etc... Academic scholarships holders may be equally required to maintain high grade point averages. However, we might as well face it, life is not the same for a kid that LOVES basketball if he does not get drafted into a program, some of them (the walk on) pay for the privilege of enduring the drills and practices, the travel and the lack of time for study. As far as the academic scholarship holders go, these kids may equally love their books and their learning and would not do it otherwise. If someone is willing to give them a good scholarship for doing what he/she loves to do, much the better. There are scores of kids in fields like pre med and pre law that literally live in the libraries, kids for which a B grade is a perceived threat to their med or law school dreams. Many of these kids are not receiving scholarships but they still put in the work. You do what you want or LOVE to do, if you get paid to do it (scholarships, grants or what have you), much the better. Otherwise, your dream is still your dream even if you come out of school after years of grind (academic or athletic) owing lots of money.

Grandy is better off than many of the other graduates since he has little educational debt to pay off. This is a major problem for most kids coming out of college. They graduate, have no job, no money, and owe a fair amount of money. Not a fun situation to be in.

You must agree the photo of the BBQ looks yummy.

Maybe what he is referring to is that Barbecue in St. Louis is better than barbecue in Memphis. You just cannot psych out the meaning of posts like this.

I think that a player's decision reflects where he wants to play rather than who offered first. The key is then to increase our desirability in the eyes of our prospective recruits. Having Cheney as an assistant coach is a plus. If we do get JT to choose SLU, this will be a major plus. I think we are doing well in concentrating our efforts at this time in recruiting JT to come to SLU rather than in making offers to sophomore players.

If this was the engineer of the derailed train, he is likely the responsible person for this tragedy.

I do not think that a conductor in an Amtrak train should carry any of the blame for a derailment presumably caused because the engineer driving the locomotive apparently wanted to break the speed record for a passenger train driven over decrepit rail beds and tight inadequately banked curves (for the speed).