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They offered Shaw, he chose SIUC. Would you cut in to Kevin's or Tommie's playing time to find the extra minutes for Blake? You can't play him at the point, can't play at pf, and you can't play him at the 5. Tommie and Kevin were both better players at the end of the year than Ahearn. Just like to know where you would find the extra minutes few him? You seem to have all the other answers.

I agree with you dr b it is a building process. To answer your question: Gonzaga. It was a slow building process there. But they have now kept the same system in place thru three head coaches. The last two were promoted from within the system. That is the way you build a consistent top 20 program. I believe that SIUC is at the level now. I think Crieghton is also at the level too. Could you imagine if Altman, before his time at CU, would have been hired here? The same people that whine about Brad, would have had a field day complaining about what a mistake it was hiring

I agree with you dr b it is a building process. To answer your question: Gonzaga. It was a slow building process there. But they have now kept the same system in place thru three head coaches. The last two were promoted from within the system. That is the way you build a consistent top 20 program. I believe that SIUC is at the level now. I think Crieghton is also at the level too. Could you imagine if Altman, before his time at CU, would have been hired here? The same people that whine about Brad, would have had a field day complaining about what a mistake it was hiring somebody who was a failure at K-state.

Skip, I was saying that Tatum and Ahearn were the only two players that Brad didn't recruit that he should have.

Vtime your opinion is pretty much worthless. Considering you think the US has just been unlucky in the FIBA world championships since 1994. US Basketalls motto should be : Team USA, building on a decade plus of bad luck. V, your racist views on basketball must really be getting bruised by all the white guys that keep getting to put that gold medal around their necks.

I think bonner/douglas/gray was a better top 3. But, claggett/highmark/H team was a much deeper team. Also, don't forget about Donnie Dobbs on the inside for two years on that team.

Hardball, I guess Tommie and Kevin don't count in your view. If Ian is other schools leftovers or somebody nobody else wanted I will take that every time. Who exactly have we passed on that turned way better than what we have offered. Blake and Tatum were mistakes, but lets be honest Blake would be getting nothing more than 15-20 mpg in the the upcoming season. Just because a player chooses another school doesn't mean we didn't offer. I would have liked to have landed Stremler. Stremler is not the second coming of Larry Bird. He is a nice player. Sampson did a hell of a job locking him in a short anount of time. I guess Crean is just as bad as Brad for losing him at the last minute. Hardball, we are not a top 20 team. We have not been a top twenty program since the sixties.

They have us listed as a tournament team. So if there is consistency among the writers, we will have to be in the low to mid-forties.

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Wow phan, you asked the ultimate St. Louis loser question. Where did you go to high school? The question losers ask because high school was the best part of his or her life. You know the guy phan. The kind of guy that uses a quote over a decade old to put someone else down. Wow, use a line from a SNL fake commercial. What a great way to rip on someone older than me. He thinks that makes him cool, hip, and funny. It really just makes him look sad and outdated. Boy, you and McKernan do have alot in common.

I know alot of people here don't like McKernan, but this article fits phan and his like well. http://www.insidestl.com/mckernan/index.php?storyid=149

There is only one fan I know that hates Mizzou more than Roy. I could be wrong about that, I only know Roy from the board.

I don't want to rag on Blake, but any mag that list him as the 4th best sg has no validity at all. You can not tke anything in that magizine seriously. At the end of last season, Lisch was already a better all around player than Blake. Kevin doesn't belong in a list of the top five sg, yet.

They may have went up to a six at the highest. GW's sos, particularly the out of conference sos, killed them with the committee.

He actually turned out to be pretty smart. He ended up graduating from Marquette with a gpa above 3.0. Took the LSAT and got acceptted to law school. He now runs a youth ministry at Cabrini Green. Roy, I think you are a good poster. But, it is a little scary how you are willing to call so many inner-city kids dumb. You seem to do this with no clue to the actual facts.

It may sound incredible, but I think they are getting it right. If they believe we are an at large team, we will have to be inside the top 50. Nice to see a national source pay attention to last year and give the Bills a little love. So use to getting ignored even when we have had good teams going into the season.

Showtymebasketball.com is a complete waste a time. The site gives you no indication who is running. No idea who is complying the rankings or their credentials. They cut and paste articles and pictures from other media outlets. I am sure without permission. V, thank you for the great resource.

If you have seen the movie a million times then you should recall the scenes of Gates blowing off his studies. I don't see how anybody involved with the administration or alumni of St. Joes could feel very good about the school after the movie. The school and the coach both come off terribly. They come off as just using two young kids from bad situations. Say what you want to about college coaches, but at least they are dealing with 18 yo for the most part. These two kids were being used from the begining of the movie, when they were in eigth grade.

That is exactly what I meant, thicks.

I am 33. She has already got committments from players(Lisch) that are rated higher than anyone I can remember the woman's program getting. She is getting visits from quality players out of the area that SLU has struggled in the past to get. She is going head to toe with Pat Summitt for one of the best players ever to come out of area. Recruiting is always a crap shoot. But, she has given more reason than any coach to be excited about the womens team. The womens team has been an even worse mess than the mens team was when Grawer took over.

I think V is still too upset about all the guards at Harris-Stowe that were clearly better than Drejaj. He might not even notice.

Roy, Hardball still thinks that Purdue's basketball program was on the same level as Northwestern, before Painter arrived.

I think Shimmy is already proving herself to be the best recruiter the school has had in my lifetime.

Dan is not even close to being the best coach in the department. While he is a good recruiter he is not the even the second best recruiter in the department. The top two recruiters in the department are clearly Shimmy and Champion. As for Donnigan overall, his tenure can best be described as a disater. He has taken a program that was a consistent top ten program, that has a soccer history similar to UCLA's in basketball, and turned it into a team that is now not even a tournament qualifier. All while having maybe the best on campus facility in the country. He should have been gone after last season. His tenure at SLU is the soocer version of Matt Dougherty tenure as b-ball coach at UNC.

My family has had our season tickets for over thirty years. I have been going since I was three. We know the deal. Everybody else should too. It's the way it is run now. It the way these places get built. The funny thing is that it is not alot of money to become part of the Billiken Club. You also don't have to have a membership for every ticket you have. I really dont think the are asking too much.