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  1. 2 minutes ago, Cowboy II said:

    -if under NIL I wanted to take one or more Billiken Student Athletes to lunch, pay for their lunch and give them each $20 or $100 for my honor of dining with them, would that be allowable? this seems like a way an average fan could get kids some cash and for the tax folks out there, being under $600 would they have to report this as income to IRS?


  2. 2 minutes ago, Taj79 said:

    Didn't miss any of that.  Show me the dollar figures and then we'll measure the success level.  Sean Clifford, the Penn State QB, came to Harrisburg and did an autograph signing session for $50/pop.  That was NIL and covered to death here locally as it was the first local case of NIL.  If he's done it since, there has been no pub on it.  Was it a success?  Don't know, haven't seen the bottom line. I'm sure the goals were modest.  When money is involved, the common denominator in success is the bottom line and if it supports the goals and objectives.  If the goal and objective is to put a little free spending money in a player's pocket, success might be measured differently.  If the goal and objective is to make a living, different measuring sticks.  I'm not saying these efforts are more the latter than the former, but like any program, success is defined over the longevity of the program.  Lots of well-intentioned start ups have crashing final acts.  Again, only time and the bottom line will tell.  

    I'm reminded of Bill Saigh, a marketing prof at SLU back in my days.  He took a sabbatical in 1976 to test his theory to see if a health-oriented restaurant could survive and be profitable.  Viola, he created "The Lettuce Leaf."  By the time he was done he had five locations, four in St. Louis and one in KC.  Longevity and financial success.  I suspect NIL success woudl be much more short-lived but measurements are measurements.

    Bill Saigh was one of my favorite profs. After the Lettuce Leaf closed he tried a soup store in the U City Loop. Great product but it failed because people wouldn't pay $10 for a cup of soup. Price and product matter. 

  3. 48 minutes ago, Taj79 said:

    I'm a little short, what with me putting "Anonymous" on that Performance Nutrition Center room in the O'Louglhin Center.  Seems I just underfigured the overall cost of White Castles, Imo's, and Falstaff Lite.

    Did Falstaff have a lite?

  4. 14 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said:

    Sorry if this is a joke and it’s flying over my head.  I was reading AB as Anheuser Busch, not Anthony Bonner.  I love Bonner, but when it comes to Big East expansion I’d rather the other AB pushing for us.  @cheesemancan you clarify? 

    You are kidding aren’t you? Cheese is talking about Anheuser. Rich cleverly said Bonner who was called AB. 

  5. Obviously being accepted to the Big East would be great for SLU. If not chosen  the A10 is our next best place to be. It's really not a bad basketball league except for the bottom. The most important thing for me is that they are like minded schools. Exposure on the east coast is a plus. We have little in common with the AAC school's But don't worry, we are going to the Big East. We are the perfect fit for what they need. 

  6. 6 minutes ago, slufanskip said:

    And how many did X earn the 8 years prior to the Big East? 

    Look, I'm not saying I wouldn't want SLU to go. I just want them to commit to being a top tier team if they do. 

    It is fact that Butler and X had more NCAA tourney success the 8 years prior to joining the Big East than they have had during the 8 years that they have been in it.  Are there reasons beyond the step up in competition? Maybe they just had better coaches before? Maybe it's something else, but it still remains true. 

    I think under Fred/May we have committed to being a top tier program.  I believe the days of penny pinching over ice cream are long gone. 

  7. 1 hour ago, NH said:

    I wonder when they would have announced this were it not for the Big East speculation. On one hand, I don't think this project really moves the needle for whether we would get invited to a new conference. Chaifetz remains a top tier arena, but if we're being honest SLU is still middle-of-the-pack when it comes top 100 D1 practice facilities. But if they were planning on making this announcement sometime in the coming months, it would have been foolish to delay given the ongoing conference realignment. 

    In the ongoing arms race, upgrades like these aren't "transformational" as much as they are necessary. It is good to see SLU making the necessary investments (or better said, raise the necessary funds) to keep us at the table for high D1 athletics. And I think the benefits to non-basketball programs will be a big boost for SLU athletics.

    This project was planned 2 years ago then COVID hit. 

  8. 1 hour ago, Adman said:

    You’re right, no doubt. But I don’t begrudge this at all.

    When they offered to take on this case, not only were they doing it 100% on contingency, they knew full well the NFL would come a-blazing and throw all the most expensive legal resources at it they could, stretch it out as long as they could, ultimately requiring the STL attorneys to finance 5-years in prosecuting the case. That’s before appeals. I’m not an attorney, but I gotta believe their investment in this - again, all on their dime - must be north of $20M. 

    Good for the attorneys - if they win. If a new team is involved, perhaps equity is (or would be) part of the comp.

    I do believe there should be some kind of cap. I believe the Post said they were going to get 35%.  So if this thing turns out to be a billion do they really deserve 350 mil.  

  9. My claim to fame was a time out contest. Got to shoot free throws against another gentleman. We both bricked about 5 then they said shoot a layup. I made mine and got the opportunity to shoot a 3. If I made the 3 you won 2 tickets from TWA to anywhere in the continental US. Somehow I made it. Took a trip to South Florida and saw Larry Hughes play South Florida in the sundome. Billiken Roy needs to tell us about his baseball bat spin. 

  10. 4 minutes ago, almaman said:

    Any fan with eligibility left gets a raffle ticket. winner gets to sit on bench during OOC home games.

    Many years ago one member of the Tip-Off-Club got to sit on the bench. I sat there once and hated it. I was afraid I would yell at the refs and get a T. You just tried to stay out of the way. 

  11. 16 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said:

    You don't have to be related to a player to have a difference of opinion.  Coach Ford's thoughts about Nesbitt's ability and projected playing time, for example, seem to align more closely with mine than with some other posters.  And the idea that other players are going to restrain a player's personality sounds like wishful thinking to me.  Nesbitt's 20 years old.  He is who he is.  

    I think some of us are just saying let’s wait  until he plays a few games before we put him in the Billiken Hall of fame. 

  12. 8 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said:

    What one person calls having an attitude, another person calls firing himself up.  It's a character Nesbitt plays on the court, a la Kevin Garnett.



    Star. Are you related to Nesbit? Any question or concern is met with a vigorous defense. 

  13. 5 minutes ago, Compton said:

    If the SLU endowment is at $1.5b, that's a 25% increase from the $1.2b reported for 2020, which seems pretty good (if not transformational) and is consistent with an average of the S&P and Dow over the last year.



    Many university endowments have reported gains of 50% or more in the last year. Wash U reported a 65% gain. How did they do that? Private equity investments. I do agree that 25% would be good depending on their allocation of funds. My criticism would be what happened after the Tenent sale. 

  14. On 10/1/2021 at 12:33 PM, billiken_roy said:

    what 4 or 5 stars have the billikens had suit up?   obviously hughes.   did goodwin receive such marks?   french?   i honestly dont know just curious.  

    What was Gordon 

  15. 2 minutes ago, Reinert310 said:

    I heard the rumors too. Weren’t they started by something Shannon said on air? I’m not saying it’s impossible, but there would have to be a pretty good reason, they way the value of professional sports franchises is skyrocketing. There would have to be an offer that blew them away, or health or some other reason. 

    Here again no idea but there could be lots of reasons. Estate planning-fear of Biden's tax proposals - the fact that they probably lost money last year-other investment opportunities. Roy is probably right. Waino contract. 

  16. 9 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

    i cant believe he would do that even if it is true at this time.   team just has one of the 2 or 3 best streaks in baseball history makes the playoff when a month ago they were considered dead and most fans were trying to figure out what free agents would be out there,   no way ownership would kill the momentum of the playoffs.   

    i think it is just the wainwright renewal.   which is pretty cool.   his age with molina coming back.   now if the DH becomes law in the national league they can go get albert and all three can go out together and all three go to the hall of fame together.  (so i am a baseball romantic)

    I have no idea whether it is true and hope that it's not but they could be negotiating for months. 

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