Coach314

It can definitely end up bad. Especially if they can convince some high end rotation players to sign for the minimum. But maybe Goodwin can fill the role Alec Caruso played for the Lakers when Vogel coached them. Caruso was undrafted and won a Championship. Maybe Vogel sees something in Goodwin that he saw in Caruso. Also, there's probably a deadline coming up in which they have to decide if they want to keep Goodwin since his contract is partially guaranteed for next year.

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2023/6/19/23765634/jordan-goodwin-washington-wizards-is-the-cherry-on-top-of-the-phoenix-suns-fleece-job-in-beal-trade

It could benefit Goodwin greatly. We have to assume the Suns wanted Goodwin included in the trade. Vogel likes defensive players. Cam Payne will be returning. He was the backup pg. But they have roster spots to fill with players playing on minimum contracts....especially if they keep Ayton. If Goodwin gets in the rotation on a Championship level team and produces it would mean more for the next contract than putting up numbers on a bad Wizards team.

Yeah. I like his game. He definitely could have played for a D1 team. I haven't heard what his plans for the future are.

Jordan Logan is going to Logan Community College. Jayden Nicholson had some midlevel offers but informed the staff at Vashon he doesn't want to go to college.

Depends. Either they like his game or they included him to make the numbers work because his contract is partially guaranteed next year.

No thanks needed. I just happened to be at the right place at the right time to hear that info lol.

If you convince a player to not leave the program and they come back and get injured in a preseason game, you better be loyal to that player when he returns from injury lol.

Let. It. Go.

Huh?

Noland, Jimmerson, Thames, Tim, Brad

Who do you guys feel is the go to guy on the perimeter with the roster as it stands now?

Nice additions. Excited to see who they add to complete the roster.

That doesn't matter if you're in a weak conference and you're not dominating conference teams.

Lol Coaches were contacting players from other schools they were actually enrolled in before NIL deals.

Agreed

How would you view a University moving on from a player and "suggesting" he transfer?

Goodwin's contract is partially guaranteed next year. If they decide to tank and go full rebuild the new staff would bring in players of their choosing. Goodwin would get an opportunity to compete but tanking wouldn't necessarily guarantee him minutes.

True. You aren't always going to get what you want. CF has done a great job of getting local kids who want to stay home. As he says, he wants kids who want to be here. But a recruiting pitch of ...your parents can be at all the home games doesn't work for everyone. Or Yuri's gone...you will get the keys to the offense. There are coaches in bigger conferences giving kids comprehensive breakdowns on how kids will fit in their offense, setting them up with trainers for the summer, better schedules (better competition) and that's before you even get into a discussion of NIL money. I know the coaches do a great job of reaching out to recruits but it seems like there is starting to become built in excuses to justify not bringing in talent. We just saw in the cases of K State and Mizzou how quickly you can turn things around.

Solid grievances about the offense. I think the roster contruction affected the offense. There was a surplus of perimeter players but each with weaknesses. Add to that they played small. Perimeter players with weaknesses playing out of position. The question now becomes...will they recruit for the offense CF wants to run or will they just go grab some players to fill the roster.

Who should it have been in your opinion? Besides Perkins.

With no consistent low post presence on offense, who (besides an injured Perkins) was going to create offense with dribble penetration?

Lol what is going on???

That would be nice. Might need to work on the recruiting pitches tho