TheChosenOne

dabills, I don't have a subscription, so I would take drkelsey55's opinion over mine. Sorry for the misinformation, I assumed he provided good content as the only individual I am aware of that specifically focuses on SLU recruiting.

It sounds like the best bet is to subscribe to scout where Ben Weixlmann seems to have a good handle on the Billiken recruiting efforts as well as local recruits. I am not sure the best site for free, maybe 247Sports?

If the athletic department continues to have situations involving the abuse of females by athletes, I would imagine the University will have to take a hard look at Mike Alden. I think he is largely credited with getting Mizzou into the $EC and helping build a winning football program, but that should only cover him for so long. As far as tracking the number of arrests, for me it all depends on the severity of the incidents and the past week has produced some major problems that the athletic department needs to really deal with. Hopefully these are just a couple of bad kids, but there have been far too many incidents involving the abuse of women by athletes and that needs to stop.

If you ever feel like this board has a lot of idiots on it, just go over to Tigerboard. They are on a completely different level.

There is actually a site that tracks arrests by program and I think it is called the Fulmer Cup. I would imagine the recent incidents put Mizzou near the top.

Is this based on what you have read on Tigerboard? Tigerboard is full of idiots and likely not representative of the opinions of the entire fan base. I would seriously doubt many Mizzou fans think DGB is getting a bad rap and I would also doubt many fans are even remotely concerned about what happened at SLU four years ago.

What about Ash? Shouldn't he be capable of defending at a high level based on his time at Nova and physical ability. Also, Roby fits the bill of a guy that could be a defensive stopper. From what I saw, he has holes in his game, but he has the length, strength, and athleticism to really defend. Reynolds appeared to have similar qualities with a more complete offensive skill set, but not as physically gifted as Roby.

I think most of us would have to agree with those expectations with really an entirely new roster this coming season. I am likely going to be less concerned about win total than seeing the team develop throughout the season, but that is because I honestly have no idea what to expect from a team with guys who have contributed little or nothing for the Billikens.

Agree, nice work!

Has anyone heard anything concerning Patrick McCaw and where he will be playing his college ball? It seems like we are no longer involved, but curious if anyone had heard anything.

What a joke.

Not really for football. With the number of players and taking into account their backgrounds, I think most BCS football programs have players that make bad decisions away from the field that brings some level of embarrassment to the program. Look at the situation at Vandy last summer, I doubt many people truly question James Franklin's character or their athletic program based on one fairly graphic incident. I am a Mizzou fan and I think very highly of Pinkel and the football program and this does not change that opinion much. DGB is a bad apple and a troubled kid, but I trust Pinkel will make the right decision with regards to disciplining him. For those that follow the program, Pinkel has done a nice job of building a program and is consistently complimented by his players and recruits for fostering a family atmosphere and being a man of character. His former players speak very highly of him and the program. Obviously this cannot be said for every player that has played for him, but for the most part I think he runs a good program that the fans can be proud of. I do think this DGB situation (assuming the reports are close to accurate which I assume) goes beyond "college kids behaving badly," but I don't question that Pinkel will handle it. Haith on the other hand is a shady character based on his time at Miami and has not shown me anything to believe he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I do not know enough about guys he has recruited and graduated since none have done that on his watch at Mizzou, but I don't see him really developing men of character at this point. I am completely over Haith and his program at this point. I will say he inherited some good kids both on and off the court though, but outside of one kid (Jonathan Williams III), the kids he has brought in do not seem like kids you can be proud of when the team is not having success which seems likely to be the case as long as he is at Mizzou.

Based on him being the #1 recruit in the nation and being compared to some of the best receivers to come out of high school, I think it is safe to say he has underachieved to this point in his career on the field. When you factor in the off the field issues, I don't think there is any question. I would say he and L'Damian Washington were both really good receivers this season for Mizzou. DGB had a pretty huge game at Kentucky catching 4 TDs and outside of Tre Mason may have been the best player on the field in the SEC Championship game.

Not to continue the argument, but who really cares? Does anyone really care if Austin McBroom is a massive dick head or anyone else on the team for that matter? As a fan all I care about is that he doesn't do anything to embarrass the University (which he clearly has not done in this situation), stays eligible, and gives maximum effort on the court. I don't expect athletes to be great people or to be guys I would "like" and honestly I am more surprised when an athlete is also a good person with high character.

Why would coaches like Calipari and others really care what the rules are? They are doing just fine funneling these kids and their famlies money under the current rules.

I seriously doubt that is the case and the decrease in attendance would seem to point to fans not being on board. From what I see from my friends who are Mizzou fans, there is an overall lack of interest in the basketball program while interest in the football program seems to be at an all time high. I think you would find that most Mizzou fans are either on the fence with Haith or want him fired, likely not many overly supportive of him. The uninspiring play and now the recent situations certainly are not helping his cause and are likely further dwindling the number of supporters he has. I think he enters this season fully aware that his seat is nice and warm. As a lifelong fan of Mizzou the only interest I have in the basketball program at this point is in seeing Haith crash and burn in spectacular Quin Snyder-esque fashion and boy is off to a good start with two kids getting busted for smoking pot, his only two players entering the NBA draft, and one of his players stalking and assaulting a teammate.

They focused on Austin and the homeless guy who they kept calling Mike. Assuming Blake was the student with Austin, he did not get much attention in this piece.

Channel 5 did a nice story on Austin McBroom and Mike. Well done Austin!

I did not really have a point, just pointing out that they are not the first to pick up a homeless man, buy him food, get him a haircut and new clothes and then put the video on the internet.

The video reminded me of a similar video I saw awhile back. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/31/homeless-man-makeover_n_3678413.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/04/extreme-homeless-man-makeover-part-two-_n_4212697.html

So he can't have an opinion that differs from yours?

It was unclear to me whether people were aware that he is a football player since they were posting about the lack of post season wins for the basketball program the past few seasons in comparison to the number of arrests. Since this is a SLU message board, I thought some may not know much about Mizzou's football program.

I am not disagreeing with that. I am just saying that some people make it seem like Calipari is the only coach with teams made up of kids that are far from student athletes. Read the piece on the North Carolina athletic department from Bloomberg.

At least Calipari wears it. Big time college sports are a joke and Calipari is far from the only offender. At least we don't have to hear the vomit worthy pining of the announcers as they detail how smart one guy on the team is and how that makes the team a great representative of college athletics.

For those who are not aware, DGB is a star football player.