JMM28

Had SLU and Mizzou played this year, we would have been the highest RPI on their non-con schedule. Throughout their schedule, only Baylor and KU have higher RPI numbers. Obviously that wouldn't have been known to start the year, but shows that we aren't some sort of "nothing to gain everything to lose" proposition.

Agreed. It makes a lot more sense to be in the A10 assuming this is fact. I always thought of it as a disadvantage. Splitting 14 ways vs 10 or 12 being my rationale.

Hopefully bleeding out somewhere

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/19/sports/ncaabasketball/19underdogs.html Here is your article. 75% goes to the program that earns it. 25% to the rest of the league evenly. So if SLU makes a run to the S16, this year they would gain 550k minimum. That would continue to be paid out for 5 years after this. If we could start making consistent trips to the tourney and win a game or two, you start getting up there in $ paid. Butler is bringing in 4,000,000 a year give or take for the Horizon. Not sure how they pay out, but that is the type of money we are talking. That would be the equivalent of 2nd round or sweet 16 every year. https://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/3b09b5004e0d54799ef1fe1ad6fc8b25/2010+Division+I+Basketball+Distribution.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=3b09b5004e0d54799ef1fe1ad6fc8b25 - 2011 payouts and breakdowns.

I was talking about the mountain west. MWC. The only thing I can find online is the total payouts by conference. A10 brought in 6 mill last year. A safe assumption with the a10 is that the distribution makes little to no sense. But if each unit is 250-275, slu could gain 375-620k for a run to the sweet 16 if it is a performance weighted distribution of 50 or 75%. Each unit is given for games played not wins.

Fair enough. I understand your points, but don't necessarily think they're a huge deal in the grand scheme. The A10 has consistently been grouped into that pack with the MWC that isn't necessarily a mid major but not a BCS conference. I don't think that changes one way or another unless we are talking about 6+ bids over multiple years. Or I suppose with new/subtracted schools in the conference. The fifteen number is a complete guess. Every unit used to be worth 275k or so to the conference. No idea how much the individual schools see or if the a10 breaks it out evenly or by games played. I think a deep run in the tourney will do wonders for attendance. How many people have you heard say something to the effect of "well I used to just buy individuals and sit wherever but now I'll have to buy season tix" in the past 3 months or so. Yes it would be easier to market a tournament team for a walk up crowd, but hopefully we don't need much of a walk up crowd next year. And to the scheduling, we are always going to have a hard time scheduling BCS teams. Even teams like eX and Gonzaga have troubles getting true home and home series and they have sustained success. What coach wants to take his team into Chaifetz when he can sit in Champaign and beat Sam Houston State by 20. Especially when BCS teams can finish under .500 in conference and still be a bubble team.

No I am absolutely not. What does any more A10 teams making the tournament this year have to do with us in any way? Does it boost our profile for next year? No. Does it somehow improve our seeding? No. Does it improve our W-L record? No. The only thing it boosts is the conference tournament units for the next 6 years. So I guess maybe we should be rooting for that extra $15,000 or so into the coffers. Big whoop. I want SLU to go to Atlantic City and win the whole damn thing. Screw everyone else. They're useless to us now. Next year the A10 could look completely different. Xavier could lose half their team. Temple is most likely gone. There could be additional teams added or subtracted. How many teams the league had in the tournament will mean nothing next year, just as it does every year. And how is anyone else making the tournament outside of winning in Atlantic City? Are you rooting against SLU in AC?

Who cares if the A10 gets 2 or 3 or 10 teams in as long as we are in. The A10 could look totally different next year anyways.

You were the guys who took those seats! We were going to come down at halftime and take them but someone was already sitting there. ######.

My exact thoughts as well. Although I originally thought it was on Lyons or one of the other gangstArs for X. The potential of Conk knocking Lyons (or was it Wells) on that scuffle under the X basket was outstanding too...

There wasn't a thread specifically for these two exemplary student-athlete-human beings. These two leaders (along with former classmate KM) have brought this program out of mediocrity and back into relevancy on a level that hasn't been seen since Larry Hughes. Although Cassity has taken his share of lumps on this board from everyone, he showed last night that he is a leader. He refused to mess with team chemistry. He has accepted a lesser role after coming here and starting 85 games throughout his career. His minutes have been halved at this point. A lesser player would have pouted and bitched. Every team in the country could use a Kyle Cassity. Conk has been a beast throughout his career. One of my favorite Billikens. A fitting way to go out of Chaifetz last night, putting up 23 and 6. Dominating inside in the 2nd half against guys with 4-7 inches on him. I would love to see the letter Majerus penned that swayed him so much that he didn't even visit the campus.

Gordon is a hack. When was the last time he showed his face at The Fetz?

I always love when a coach kills the team momentum by picking up a T. Xavier had just cut the lead to I believe 7 on some ugly shot by Shrek. Foul on X - Mack T - 4 Free Throws - Ball Game.

First class job by the athletic department. Everything throughout went very well. Now if we could just get the damn ushers out of those ugly red shirts.

Nope. Enjoy Louisville, Jared.

Well I think the "SLU is a bad neighbor and ruins St Louis neighborhoods" topic has qualified for probationary Billiken.com primer status.

Especially with this game being a late start. No way it should be after the game. Dammit. Why does SLU have to be so minor league with this kinda stuff?

I wish everyone would shut up about the refs every single game. The style of offense we run does not lead to many fouls. A team that shoots a lot from the outside will usually have fewer free throw attempts over the course of a year. Rhode Island will take a lot of free throws because they are a terrible outside shooting team and do a lot of dribble drive and slashing.

No way. Those girls are paying their way through law school or med school. Some are doing both.

If only the Pevely Dairy Memorial Abortionplex was open when Gary's mom was knocked up by her pimp....

Cleveland State as an institution is similar to Illinois State. I don't see that as this magical like mindedness. And we all know that no good students come from Cleveland.

Definitely a what have you done for me lately. Marquette is in the Big East because of that Dwayne Wade character.

Big Al's is still here. However Big Al's in its current form is threatened by a hotel project being propped up by the city council. Although they have had a resurgence in talent lately. It is like the Spoonabll days in there.

Excellent point. I don't think we will be attracting many prospective students from Salina, KS. We need those east coast smart guys.

But I don't think any of this discussion was of SLU just straight out joining the Valley as it sits now. I don't see that as a great option for SLU, and I honestly don't see why the MVC would see it that way either. However if it were a SLU-X-Dayton combo, then you have something. I believe best case scenario for everything from non-rev sports to academics is some sort of combo of MVC-A10-BE Basketball schools. DePaul, Marquette, Bradley, Creighton, X, Dayton, SLU make the base of a pretty solid conference up and down.