moytoy12 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Too many variables. Things go terribly wrong all the time. I think you get them out ASAP, and deal with them accordingly at home. That's true. Because a holding cell is pretty much like "Oz". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Links to transcripts of the Floyd's interview with the MSHSAA: http://media.riverfronttimes.com/1909025.0.pdf http://media.riverfronttimes.com/1909026.0.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 If they were in a holding cell for getting in trouble one night, they would be in there with whoever else is in trouble that night (drunks and the like), none of whom would have weapons. When you get in there, they take everything from your pockets along with your belt, shoes/shoelaces, etc. They even feed you a bologna sandwich. I think Roy means if they get arrested one night for something dumb, a few hours in a holding cell isn't going to kill them. thank you pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 It's not about showing how tough you are. It's about teaching your kids that actions have consquences...something called "parenting". Someday you guys may understand that. I hope for your kid's sake you do. He/she will be better for it. thank you sltom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 YOu and Roy are missing the whole point. THEIR FATHER WHO WAS THE ONLY PARENT IN THIER LIFE WAS RIGHT BEHIND THE DECISION. So you tell me if you were raised by your broke ass father all your life and at 14 he told you that you were going to move play for the basketball powerhouse in the area and all your needs would be taken care, what would you have done? We can all agree that the Hill brothers father didn't do a great job so why take it out on the kids? They were doing as told in the environment they grew up in. if i was the hills, by then i likely would have realized that my "dad" was clueless. i probably wouldnt have any respect for him and would be praying "god please help me be different than my father". i would have went to my principal and/or coach and discussed with them what was going on and asked for help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Thanks for clarifying. But are you serious about the part where you say "for any reason." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sltom6 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Too many variables. Things go terribly wrong all the time. I think you get them out ASAP, and deal with them accordingly at home.Wrong, young man. Come back when you actually have some life experience to apply. There's many things you understand so little about, which is understandable at your tender age, but why do you insist on making an ass out of yourself so often? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postcard Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 if i was the hills, by then i likely would have realized that my "dad" was clueless. i probably wouldnt have any respect for him and would be praying "god please help me be different than my father". i would have went to my principal and/or coach and discussed with them what was going on and asked for help. If that was the environment you grew up in and you loved your dad you would not think that way. Give me a break. You live in a fantasy world. Roy, don't you get that if for all the years these kids grew up they had one parent, who by all accounts struggled to get by, and this was the life and the example they had for how life works. They weren't raised to be any different. For you to think that they should have "turned in" the only parent in their life is laughable. You've have grown up in such a sheltered life that you have no idea how the real world is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postcard Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 Wrong, young man. Come back when you actually have some life experience to apply. There's many things you understand so little about, which is understandable at your tender age, but why do you insist on making an ass out of yourself so often? You're so experienced. Please come back when you learn how to understand WTF is going on. You got on your high horse and said "this is about parenting" and when I correctly pointed out you didn't know what you were talking about you failed to answer my post. So, don't go calling people out when you don't know what you're talking about in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Wrong, young man. Come back when you actually have some life experience to apply. There's many things you understand so little about, which is understandable at your tender age, but why do you insist on making an ass out of yourself so often? I do that often? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 If that was the environment you grew up in and you loved your dad you would not think that way. Give me a break. You live in a fantasy world. Roy, don't you get that if for all the years these kids grew up they had one parent, who by all accounts struggled to get by, and this was the life and the example they had for how life works. They weren't raised to be any different. For you to think that they should have "turned in" the only parent in their life is laughable. You've have grown up in such a sheltered life that you have no idea how the real world is. you are right, i had sensible parents that indeed set a great example and indeed taught me right from wrong and didnt just side with me because i selfishly wanted something or foolishly made mistakes. and i have tried to do the same. you apparently didnt have that and if so, i am sorry you grew up such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postcard Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 you are right, i had sensible parents that indeed set a great example and indeed taught me right from wrong and didnt just side with me because i selfishly wanted something or foolishly made mistakes. and i have tried to do the same. you apparently didnt have that and if so, i am sorry you grew up such. What are you talking about? This isn't about you or me. We've been talking about the Hill brothers the whole time. Why does it always have to come back to you and what a great father you are and what great parents you had? Congratulations! You and your parents did the job they were suppose to do like most all other parents do. But and this is the main point that this WHOLE TOPIC has been about, the Hill brother's father apparently didn't do the best job in the world so for you to think they should have had the foresight to leave their only parent(and what go to foster care) is just nsane. Now can you please comment on the topic at hand(the Hill Brothers) and not your parentings skills or your parents parenting skills. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sltom6 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I do that often?you haven't noticed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sltom6 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 You're so experienced. Please come back when you learn how to understand WTF is going on. You got on your high horse and said "this is about parenting" and when I correctly pointed out you didn't know what you were talking about you failed to answer my post. So, don't go calling people out when you don't know what you're talking about in the first place."I correctly pointed out that you didn't know what you were talking about"...Postie, go back to your Logic 101 and look up "begging the question". Aristoltle called it "circular reasoning". I think you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleBilliken Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 you are right, i had sensible parents that indeed set a great example and indeed taught me right from wrong and didnt just side with me because i selfishly wanted something or foolishly made mistakes. and i have tried to do the same. you apparently didnt have that and if so, i am sorry you grew up such.That's great. I'd bet 95% if this board grew up in the same environment (myself included). Unfortunately, the Hill brothers didnt have that luxury. And too bad that by the time those Hill boys reached 8th grade, they hadn't learned such life lessons on there own. I mean, how in the world could these two kids make such a stupid decision. Obviously we were all so well informed and mature at that age. Talk about some bad apples. Get 'em out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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