cgeldmacher
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That's my concern too, but 47 points is 47 points. It shows that he can shoot. That's a skill that, as we are seeing with recent recruits, you either have or you don't. We need some guys that can flat out shoot the ball, and he appears to be one of those guys. Add in his size, and we may have a guy that can get his own shot when he needs to. Also, a tall shooter clears out the inside for our bigs.
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1 hour ago, Tilkowsky said:
Yet you and everyone else on this board are giving the players a pass.
Everyone is just worried about how it affects the basketball teams wins/losses.
Again is this the type of behavior you want SLU basketball players to be known for?
All four players are responsible for the situation they currently find themselves in.
No one else. Not Kratky. Not Weathers. Not Pestello. Not Ortiz.
Sad that NO ONE will answer the question - Is this the type of behavior SLU students should be engaged in?
I agree. Tilky is right for once. This is not the type of behavior that SLU students should be engaged in. Whoever organized the orgy in the first place should be disciplined, because that's not the type of activity we should expect of SLU students. Pestello should suspend the parties to this encounter that set it all up, brought the condoms, and then made false allegations after the fact. We need to expect more of SLU students.
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I'm not trying to defend anyone who is involved in the investigation, but I keep thinking about the "process of elimination" comment. I'm wondering if that means that Players 1, 2, & 3 are in the video, and Player 4 is not, but the video is being taken. Thus, "by process of elimination" .......
Again, as someone who doesn't know exactly what happened, I'm just trying to make sense of it.
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I hope Rosenbloom adds a libel lawsuit against the PD to his list.
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Pestello caused me serious concern with the Clock Tower Accords. I was worried back then that his decisions would lean toward defending appearances rather than doing what is right. Situation 2 has confirmed my concerns. Everyone who ran Biondi out of town is directly responsible for the ridiculous situation we now have as far a leadership down at SLU.
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I've always had concerns about Gordon. I know what happened at Vianney, and now we hear about more problems at Webster Groves. Most people in the know consider this a pattern and not just isolated events. Even if he comes here, I have little hope that his attitude will change. There are many out there that are questioning, including myself, what would be best for SLU; losing him before he gets here, or having him actually show up and start his antics here. I haven't decided.
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On 2/4/2018 at 10:29 AM, Billboy1 said:
Rosenblum needs to immediately file for an injunction to stay any penalties if the decision is bad. Then file the necessary litigation which should be in federal court as this whole process is totally unconstitutional.
I started a topic about this that you may have to look down the list for called "Injunction Now." There is an article about a case where a kid from, I think it was the University of Cincinnati, appealed his Title IX ruling in federal court and won based upon not receiving due process. The appeal took about a year and a half if I remember. If Rosenblum files the appeal and gets an injunction preventing execution of the suspensions, then they guys could play while the appeal is pending.
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35 minutes ago, White Pelican said:
If the women were victims of the guy who was filming, then why were the other men not also victims. If the attorney who released this statement and the university don't understand the ridiculous gender bias that exists here, then a court is going to have to straighten them out.
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I'm a fan of both. My father was a big Mizzou fan and I have lived in Missouri my whole life. I went to SLU, am a season ticket holder for about 10 years, and have been to a road game each of the last 6 years. I cheer for both, but bleed Billiken blue.
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10 minutes ago, Spoon-Balls said:
This was sent out in an email to all of the students today apparently:
Somebody has got to post this survey on Billikens.com. Do we have any undergrads that would be willing to screen shot this thing?
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Again, I'm talking about the federal court issuing an injunction against SLU, on a motion made by Rosenblum, that states that SLU cannot enforce its suspensions until a federal appeal of this matter plays out. I'm not referring to the Title IX appeals process that is currently occurring. Someone above referenced that an injunction would have to wait until SLU's Title IX appeals process played out, and I agree with that. You have to exhaust all administrative remedies before filing a federal appeal and before requesting an injunction. However, if the judge thinks that an injunction is warranted, they typically rule on it the same day or the next day from when it is filed.
My point here is that if SLU botched the process, the federal court can tell SLU it cannot punish the players until their appeal in federal court is complete. Therefore, if the players and Rosenblum get an injunction, it may allow Goodwin to continue to play for possibly another season while the federal appeal plays out. The appeal in the case of the kid from Cincinnati, referenced in the article above, took over a year. Ford and the Athletic Dept. can tell Goodwin that they will give him the ability to transfer if the suspension is eventually upheld, but only if he continues to play in the meantime. I think that he may be comfortable with that arrangement, but only if the injunction happens.
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9 hours ago, Compton said:
Unfortunately, even if the underlying facts are similar, an appellate court decision in the Sixth Circuit doesn't carry much weigh in the Eighth Circuit (where St. Louis is).
The decision doesn't carry any precedential weight, but the idea that these Title IX decisions can be appealed is procedural. Although each circuit has its own rules, concepts such as what is appealable and what is not should be consistent across circuits.
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If Rosenblum got an injunction allowing them to play while the appeal was happening. It happens all the time. All you need to show is some chance of success on appeal and that the punishment would result in irreparable harm to the players.
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Does no one care that our players may be able to continue to play during a federal appeal filed by Rosenblum? Or are we just in full out lamenting mode? This is appealable in federal court.
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By the way, I was wrong in my first post. The appeal would have to be in Federal Court, since Title IX is federal law.
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Not true. Read this article. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit agreed with a lower court judge who overturned a University of Cincinnati Title IX decision which gave a male student a one year suspension.
It appears that the suspension was handed down in early 2016. The 6th Circuit appellate court overturned it in September of 2017. I can only assume that there was an injunction in that case saying that the student's suspension was not to be enforced until after the appeals. If not, the appeal was too late.
The players in our case should be allowed to play until the federal appeal filed by Rosenblum is exhausted.
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Agree. This story may have been boring for the PD prior to this point, but a botched and possibly biased finding is just the sort of investigative story that sells papers. Hopefully, they realize this and dig deep.
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I would like to see Rosenblum appeal this decision in court after the Title IX process has concluded. In the meantime, I truly hope he heads over to the courthouse, finds a judge who is a friend of Billiken athletics, and gets an injunction that states that the punishment handed out cannot begin until all possible court appeals have been exhausted.
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3 hours ago, rgbilliken said:
Millenial age woman here from academia just here to say I would be very surprised if this statistic is accurate. Maybe they surveyed womens' studies majors, not scientists, though...
https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/11/daily-chart-14?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/
This study has been cited in many other articles. Yes, 1/3 of all millennial age women think that a compliment about their appearance is sexual harassment. The world we live in now sucks. Thanks feminists.
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On 1/16/2018 at 10:59 AM, GoBills73 said:
In my lifetime, I will never get to the point where watching this clip gets old.
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I agree with Old Guy that there may not be any announcement. The three may just show up and start playing. The administration may muzzle everyone and tell them not to talk.
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Sarachan is 63 years old. He better be a great coach if you're only going to get him for so many years. He was head coach of the Chicago Fire from 2002-2007.
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12 minutes ago, slufan13 said:
Question that was discussed about a month ago when we all thought any normal administration would have had this wrapped up.....If the initial ruling is in favor of the players, should the players be allowed to play during the appeal process? I would say yes but interested in other thoughts.
I think that the clear answer is "yes." The answer to the question, should they have been allowed to play all along is also "yes." The real question is whether Pesty and Krafty (I like when someone used that to describe them above) will allow them to play. My guess is "no."
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I would really like to know who is responsible for the delays. I know we are all assuming who it is, but the answer will have a lot to do with my ultimate opinion of this. Is it the University, the attorneys for the accusers, or the attorneys for the players? It could also be a combination. I doubt that any requests for continuances of the timeline have come for the attorneys from the players, but you never know. I would love if someone could ask the attorneys for the players if they have requested any extensions, and, if not, have they been fighting against any extensions asked for by the accusers or the hearing officer.
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