TheChosenOne

While he technically might have one more season of eligibility after this season, Jimerson will also be 5 years out of high school (same as Hargrove and Dalger and Meadows redshirted 1 and has played 4), so he might be ready to move along. Have we had any visits from 2024 kids?

I was looking at EvanMiya this afternoon and thought I would post what I found. Concerning the incoming transfers, Evan ranks them: Bradley Ezewiro #233 (0.32 OBPR 2024, 1.13 DBPR 2024, and 1.45 BPR 2024), Michael Meadows #314 (1.35 OBPR 2024, -0.27 DBPR 2024, and 1.07 BPR 2024), and Tim Dalger #1013 (0.04 OBPR 2024, -0.59 DBPR 2024, and -0.55 BPR 2024). For the team ranking, he has us with the #52 overall transfer activity rank (#114 for incoming transfers class rank). *CJ Noland #328 (0.43 OBPR 2024, 0.60 DBPR 2024, and 1.04 BPR 2024) Looking at player ratings for last season for our roster (our top 5 ranked players were seniors), they were ranked: Terrence Hargrove #850 (0.79 OBPR, 0.62 DBPR, and 1.40 BPR), Gibson Jimerson #1003 (1.73 OBPR, -0.60 DBPR, and 1.13 BPR), Sincere Parker #1148 (0.77 OBPR, 0.11 DBPR, and 0.89 BPR). And then the ratings for our incoming transfers for last season with their various teams, they were ranked: Michael Meadows #1002 (1.57 OBPR, -0.45 DBPR, and 1.13 BPR), Bradley Ezewiro #2113 (-0.96 OBPR, 0.43 DBPR, and -0.53 BPR), and Tim Dalger #2853 (-0.72 OBPR, -1.22 DBPR, and -1.94 BPR). I am not seeing any predictive rankings for 2024 beyond the transfers, so this is all I got. But, I figured others would be interested in what I wasted my time looking up.

Ok. I will get more details for you. I would have no reason to doubt what he was telling me, but since you are so skeptical I will dig for the details you need.

I was amazed when I went to the SEC Championship game and ordered a Chick-fil-A sandwich and a water and it was under $10. I think they kind of went with the Masters model. Makes a lot of sense as you said. I had a friend say that they aren’t renewing season tickets because unbeknownst to them their tickets now require a donation in addition to the ticket price. Anyone else have this happen?

I would have recommended moving on much sooner. It seems like we picked the wrong horses this spring. Good job attacking the International market though to hopefully make up for the failure in the transfer portal.

I thought we were getting Malcolm Dandridge and Jalen Rucker from Army?

When we going to scout this kid and get some pie?!?!

Looking at his stats, he had a better season than I remembered. Likely warranted more minutes than he received. Like I said, I was so down after not living up to the hype as a team, that my judgment was significantly impaired. I don’t have a strong opinion of what Sincere is or what he is capable of, but I’m now more interested in seeing him step into more minutes and a more significant role.

Is that a commonly held opinion? Good take now that I look into stats (highest PER and WS/40 in conference play). I think I was so pissed off at that point watching games I failed to see some of the positives!

Haha. Based on the reactions, maybe I should walk that one back! It is so hard for me to think that we could finish that low with Ford as our coach (which should always result in us having a reasonably talented roster) in such a down league. If it does look like we could finish below 9th, I will offer to treat the board to a round before our last home game, I figure we would need it.

I will bet my house that we finish better than 9th in the A-10.

Right. I was just pointing out a technicality since the legislation has not gone into effect yet. Once the legislation goes into effect, an in-state commit can start earning money the day that they commit. Had this kid waited a couple of weeks to commit, he would have been able to start earning money the day he committed, but since it isn't the law yet, he has to wait two weeks or whatever that exact date is.

Well, once the legislation goes into effect which is later this month. The language in the law allows anyone making a NIL deal with the athlete to include a provision that makes it contingent upon the athlete ultimately attending the University, so that would eliminate the risk you are laying out at least if you are viewing the risk as financial. While I would assume only a small % of the total deal is being paid out prior to him being on campus (I have no idea how these deals are structured, so no idea what the length of any of these are), Nwaneri will be able to be paid when the legislation goes into effect later this month and those who are paying will presumably have a clause protecting them if he were to decommit. I assume he could still decommit, but presumably he would owe back whatever $ he had received. One might argue this locks him in a bit more than in the past, but obviously that could be worked out (see Jeremiah Tilmon when he decommitted from Illinois). Mizzou essentially wrote the law, it would be wise to assume that the legislation serves to benefit Mizzou when recruiting players from the state and that clauses are built into the legislation that limit risk. My main point of bringing any of this up and even before he committed, is that an in-state school that has a very mediocre football program just landed a top 5 recruit in the country and up until a couple of months ago they were the courtesy addition to his finalists. That all changed when he took his visit and that visit began with a visit to Jefferson City where this new legislation was laid out for them. The local and national recruiting folks have pointed to this legislation being a game changer in this one recruitment and potentially in the recruitment of Wingo from SLUH, another top 25 recruit. Whether it will remain so, I have no idea, but hopefully those at SLU are doing their due diligence. 2025 appears to have some solid prospects in the state, so any advantage we can gain needs to be explored. Obviously, the legislation is just one step with the other step being getting the financial commitments to actually have the NIL deal in place.

There is language in the law that allows for the contract to require the individual attend the University: shall have the right to condition payment of that compensation on a student athlete’s attendance at a particular postsecondary educational institution. I am legitimately posting all of this on the off chance those in charge at SLU aren’t aware of the legislation about to go into effect. We all know they lurk on this board even posting at times to calm the troops like when they intimated Jalen Rucker and Malcolm Dandridge were on their way…

Completely agree (so dumb and I hate it, but it is what Mizzou lobbied for and gives a potential advantage). I assume those calling the shots are aware of the new state law about to go into effect, but I put it on here on the off chance they are not and seeing that Mizzou is potentially benefiting from it in a big way. If it somehow helps us with local recruits, we need to be aware of it and seeing the list of 2025 in-state recruits it seems relevant.

The 5-star DE from Lee's Summit committed to Mizzou today, but the most interesting thing for me was hearing Clint Cosgrove who is a national recruiting guy talk about the impact of the commitment. He got into the state legislation allowing prospects to start getting $ once they commit to Mizzou and how he has heard some of the more highly regarded prospects from across the river are transferring to the Missouri side. I have no idea if true or who those guys would be, but something noteworthy.

I think it is important that those who are contributing to and running the SLU NIL understand the landscape. If they want to limit their contributions to players on the roster and thus, presumably not make offers to recruits, I think that is going to be a tough sell to get kids into the program at least for major prospects. Maybe recruiting International prospects is part of the answer (and under the radar kids), but from what I am reading prospects and programs are starting to find workarounds there as well. Mizzou lobbied for legislation that would allow them to compensate prospective in-state student athletes once they sign any agreement essentially committing to Mizzou and apparently are using that heavily in their pitch to two in state top 25 football recruits (one decides today and the other in December). I somewhat questioned why that would matter if the total offer is the offer and it is merely an issue of timing, but I am not in their (the recruit and their family) situation. This would be the opposite of what folks are saying SLU is planning. If the two kids being referenced commit to Mizzou, I would hope that is something that is being explored as 2025 appears to have a solid group of players in the state especially when you add Link to that.

I think we should ignore any NIL rules per the NCAA. NIL has already become exactly what the rules say it cannot be (it didn't even take one full football recruiting cycle for it to become a farce). Oddly those of us in St. Louis are seeing some local college athletes making $ how it was intended (Luther Burden with his own Old Vienna chips and doing some local advertisements, a Schnucks frozen pizza with some Mizzou guys on it, and Brady Cook having a deal with IMO’s like Burden), but that does not appear to be the norm.

Candidly, who really cares? The staff (and NIL group) decided to make him a priority at a position of need and came up empty. That appears to be a significant mistake with Ezewiro’s situation being uncertain. I do like the direction we took of targeting International players and the late addition of a grad transfer combo guard, but the center position was a hole we likely needed a transfer to fill. I guess we can only hope Ezewiro is able to play. And if there is one position I am fine with being a bit uncertain at, it would be the 5, I just wish we had some more true power forward types to go along with the rookie big men.

You might be thinking of some other dudes Penny has landed at Memphis. Dandridge was not that level of prospect. More of like a top 150 type recruit, certainly a solid recruit with high major opportunities, but not near a top 25 or even top 50 guy.

I’m confused what is happening in this thread, but I do love the passion for the Billiken soccer program, a program to be proud of no doubt.

And I am glad we brought in a veteran guard to prevent everything falling on Medley at the lead guard position. Not that I don't think he will be a solid player for us, but it is nice for him to have a veteran to compete with and learn from, taking some of the pressure off of him as he adjusts to the college game.

Grad transfer, so no concern. For reference, he is a class of 2018 kid (Yuri was 2019 for comparison). He redshirted before playing 2 seasons at Eastern Washington and then played 2 seasons at Portland. I would note that Eastern Washington was quite good in the two seasons he played for them making the tournament in his 2nd season and heading into their conference tournament as the #1 seed before the postseason was cancelled the season before. He would have played with the Groves kids who gave KU all they could handle in the opening round of the tournament in 2021 (they had some other guys leading the charge the season before that ended in March, a team that we beat 82-60). A bit streaky, but solid numbers overall with a couple of really big games this past season (39 against Santa Clara on 14-22 shooting and 29 against Loyola Marymount on 11-18 shooting). He has also dealt with some injuries over the past two seasons (looks like back and hamstring). As ACE posted, this has been a position of need, so to get a player like this on August 9th is hard to complain about. His activity since the season ended (entered the transfer portal, committed to LMU, decommitted from LMU, committed to Cal, withdrew from Cal after the summer, and now committed to SLU) is a bit unique, but you aren't getting kids at this point without some questions.

Jon Rothstein out there working as Dandridge’s agent hahaha. This and the comment from Penny (and thank you both for posting) seems like the first news concerning Dandridge since it was reported he was receiving interest from Michigan which was a while back. I don’t particularly care if we land him at this point, but damn I’m locked in to see how this one ends (like so many shows or movies my wife watches where I begin passively watching and then end up getting invested in despite having little enjoyment of the program).

Well, the next dead period begins tomorrow, anyone hearing anything on Dandridge? I’m starting to think 3star’s option that I know I had not considered is part of the decision (do I even want to go to a new school to play another year of college basketball?).