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I just felt something too...

Roy, If our coach is such an A hole, then why are the recruits flocking to SLU??? Are you saying our recruits and their families are fools? They obviously don't have the same feeling about RM based on their PERSONAL MEETINGS with him. Roy, why can't you just accept the fact that people are different? Charlie Spoonhour for all of his wit and charm was a mediocre recruiter. Players want to go to a program where they sense the opportunity to win and be successfu. RM has given them the belief that will happen at SLU.

Claiborne has been a Billiken basher ever since he was cannd as a commentator on the radio broadcasts. As for his comments about the local kids: "How anyone at this point would think this would be a good situation for their kid should take a long, hard look at what has happened at Saint Louis University lately. No longer is this the place for the hometown kid, and you can solely thank the head coach for that. His most recent statement about four kids he wanted to run off was unacceptable." Huh????? Has he looked at our incoming roster??? Femi John, from Florissant, Rubin Cotto from Alton, Kyle Cassity and BT from Southern Illinois, maybe Josh Harrellson from St. Charles. These are the same bitter comments he has been directing towards the program for the last several years, just a different target now.

I will be disappointed and surprised if BE logs most of the minutes at the 4 position. I think Conklin ends up with most of the minutes, also if Harrellson commits, the BT might see some time at the 4 also.

You have seen him make a bad basketball decision more than once? Amazing, is there any player you have seen that has not made occasional bad decisions? Josh averaged 19 points, 11 rebounds, 4 blocks and shot nearly 60% from the field in his senior year. In addition his team made it to the final four of the state championship. I would say that was a great senior season.

I agree completely with you Brian. Cassity is a team oriented player, playing in a game last night, where no one wantd to pass the ball. That said Cotto showed amazing range and confidence with his shot, I also liked the way BT moved and carried himself on the floor. Again, there was no attempt to get the ball inside to him.

Josh Harrrellson was also at the game.

Dustin will not gain another year of eligibility. You have a 5 year window in which you can play 4 years. If he plays at another D1 school, he will have to sit out another year (which would be his 3rd year ) and would only have 2 more years of eligibility, because he would have a total of 5 years at a D1 school. The only way he can have 3 more years of eligibility is if he goes to a D2 or lower school, which I think he will.

I would hope Brad is smart enough not to make the same mistakes twice.

Wish I could have been there. Does anyone have an idea of how many were there?

I heard he is considering SIU or Missouri State.

I caught the very end of the interview, anyone hear what he said?

The childishness of some here is amazing... For the record, the last time I talked directly to Josh was in November, no, I don't call him every day to find out what his latest thoughts are. If someone tells me (and others) that he would love to play for SLU, why wouldn't I believe it? Can I gaurantee that Josh is coming to SLU? of course not. What the hell is your point? I've talked to Josh, and some of his coaches and passed on what I know. Do we want information on this board or not? Has Josh said somewhere that he doesn't want to come to SLU? I'm tired on the insinuations, that I am making up what I have posted on this board.

Roy, quit being an ass and distorting the facts. I told you that during the summer before Harrellson's senior year, that I talked to him and he told me that he would love to play for SLU, but unfortunately had not even received so much as a letter much less a phone call from SLU. I later stated that I talked to Josh this past November at the start of his season at SWIC, he again told me that would love to play for SLU, and that he thought RM was a great guy. He also told me that it had been conveyed to him that RM had targeted him as his number 1 priority, if he became available. I am not a personal friend of the Harrellson family, and have never said that I am. Harrellson was a lock if he had been offered by Brad. That has already been established. When I last talked to Josh, he had not been offfered by any of the big boys, in fact none of them had ever seen him play. As for his family problems, they are well known by many in the St. Charles area, and I am not about to discuss them on this forum. All that I have stated, has been affirmed by Nate. Roy, for some reason has a vendetta against me, because I had the audacity to disagree with him about Harrellson's potential. I felt he could be a major contributor and Roy did not. Maybe I wasn't so stupid after all. This forum is for information, take it or leave it, that is your priority. That said, those who continue to call Josh and family fraud's, should reconsider what they are saying. Why can't we wait a few weeks for him to make a decision before we start all of the name calling?

I never asked that his posts be deleted. I just don't understand why he continues to question Josh and his families integrity. What exactly is his and others point about questioning Harrellson's motive for asking for his release? The facts are the parents and the players do read this board. Ask Bt's mom. Why is it ok to insult them?

So Roy, what are trying to say? Are you implying that Josh and his family are liars? Why are you so down on this kid? You would think you would be happy that a talented player is strongly considering SLU. A hypothetical for you Roy, say there was a job you always coveted and you let it be known that if an opening came up you would like to have it. Now a year and a half later that dream job became available, but just by chance another great job opened up, one you had never even considered. What would you do Roy? Would you immediately accept the original offer or would you take a little time to consider the unexpected one as well? PS Roy, as I am sure you are aware, many potential recruits and their families visit this board. Thanks for making them feel so welcomed.

skip, you act like Josh just asked for his release a week ago, it was nearly a year and a half ago. Circumstances can change for the good and bad in that time. Many on this board criticized Josh for making a hasty decision when he signed with WIU, and now want to criticize him for not making a quick decision to sign with SLU. I can see why he might be a little gun shy at the moment.

I think you are the naive one. I'm convinced the Bernie's article helped, why would any university want the negative publicity?

First of all a lot can change in a year and secondly, he had only been released for 24 hours!!!! Don't you think he should at least meet with RM??? This is the same board that had no use for him 2 years ago and now they can't wait a short while for him to make a decision. Funny how things work out some times.

I'm sure, all that he has been waiting for, is your approval. I am glad to see that you at least agree ( finally) that he is a worthy recruit.

I'm sorry Roy, I thought AT was paid last year. Silly me, I thought he was the lucky assistant last year because he didn't have to go out and find another job. When you decide that you want to be a college basketball coach, then you better be used to the idea of moving alot. It comes with the territory.

Roy, has never been a fan of Harrellson coming to SLU, why that is, I have no idea. Somehow he bought into the idea that if Brad didn't want him then he must not be any good. I've posted here many times that Josh wanted to be a Billiken, and it would have been a sure thing, if it were not for the puzzling decision by Brad. Josh, didn't start playing basketball until the 8th grade and never played on a big name AAU team, he was a hidden gem right under SLU's nose. I found a interesting comment from a blog of Frank Cusamano's from January of 2007 "4. If Josh Harrellson, all 6 foot 8 and 240 pounds of him destroys the coach's son?s team every time St. Charles plays St.Charles West, why wasn't he offered a scholarship? Are you telling me that that their bodies on that Billiken bench who can rebound better than Harrellson.? He's headed to Western Illinois." I'm sure Josh never dreamed that one of the nation's elite basketball programs (Kentucky) would be clamoring for his services. It will be interesting to see what happens. That said I think the Bill's have a great chance to land him.

Frank Cusamano says that he has had conversations with SLU people and RM is not interested in the job.

I was listening to Bernie M on the way home to day, and he took another shot at WIU. When asked about the chances of the Rams returning to Macomb for their training camp, he replied I certainly hope not. I'm not going to support them in any matter until they release Josh Harrellson from his LOI. He also said that he planned to meet with John Shaw, the president of the Rams, and tell him about the situation.

Not money wise, but those coaches want to win as much as any other. Why isn't there mass changes every year?