cheeseman
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1 hour ago, Bills By 40 said:
You're getting closer here, you've almost got it.
It must be a real burden to be such a..
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15 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said:
Agree. I would think that he could have gotten more to stay here, unless we had reason to tell him he wasn't wanted here anymore. Also strange than another bigger program than McNeese State didn't take a chance on him. Hell, I would think one of the programs who he hung 30 on in the A-10 would have paid him a little more than he's probably getting at NcNeese State.
Maybe his injury history this year was caution for them
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7 minutes ago, TRN said:
No we don’t. Mitchell, McCall, and Jett were all combo guards and we were just fine back then. We will be fine now running the 5 out system.
All three could play pg and did at times.
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48 minutes ago, gobillsgo said:
With 7 players, Schertz’s roster construction already makes way more sense than any of Ford’s full rosters.
Nobody has said he has done anything wrong just that out of the 6 open schollies he has we still need a pg.
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18 minutes ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said:
We need whatever Coach Schertz thinks we need.
In Ford we trust moment
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Don't get complacent - we need a pg without on we will be disappointed
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5 hours ago, thetorch said:
I'm sure Santa Clara is putting together a top 25 roster. Get real.
We have the hottest coach and one of the most marketable players in the country. Santa Clara is pretty underwhelming.
We need wins - is this a guarantee - no but given our current roster condition and our need to show immediate improvement we should be happy that anybody is willing to invite us to anything. Lets not get ahead of our skis.
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1 hour ago, billikens747 said:
She got 20M+ from Nike.
I am not sure what your point is - I said she can get more from endorsements.
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1 hour ago, willie said:
With the exception of the golf tournament I don't believe that is true.
Read the letter you get from the Club it specifically states only 80% is deductible - now if that has changed then I haven't seen it.
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59 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:
with her new endorsement deals (reportedly signing a huge nike deal this week) as well as still having her state farm deal as well as other endorsements from last year all renewed, Caitlin will have more direct deposits this year than last. her WNBA contract is just something to do.
I understand I was only pointing out that her actual salary playing will be less then what she made on NIL. There will be others who won't get those endorsement deals
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14 minutes ago, David King said:
Caitlin Clark reportedly was paid $3.1 million in NIL money. However, I believe she thinks she'll make even more in the WNBA, because she chose not to use her 5th year of eligibility.
Her salary will be something like 65-70K a year. Now I agree she can make more from endorsements.
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13 hours ago, brianstl said:
Very important thing buried in the article:
“They both said they do not yet know with certainty how their schools would interpret Title IX laws when figuring out how to equitably share NIL opportunities with men and women athletes.”
They are about to get slapped hard in the face about the realities of Title IX.
Good point - I would think this is why a school would not want to be doing the NIL paying. By doing so they no longer claim it is not us doing it.
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14 hours ago, slu72 said:
One could also look at a scholie and room and board as a financial benefit therefore taxable. Lots of decisions to make here.
Actually I think that may very well happen - many benefits you get over your salary is taxable so why not tax it.
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19 hours ago, TheA_Bomb said:
Seems like the market can take care of itself. If it's not sustainable and no one pays there's less money. Pretty simple.
You can choose to donate, not donate, watch, don't watch. Everyone has a choice now even the players.
For every regulation or new law there's unintended consequences and loop holes to be exploited.
If better players stay and don't jump to G League or Europe don't we see better basketball? Seems like the system is rewarding more experienced players and keeping a team together as long as possible. That's why Calipari struggled with a bunch of one and dones when he previously dominated.
The idea that the market always takes care of itself is not always true. When you let the power be concentrated in a few hands that is when excesses occurs. Last month the meat/poultry prices were credited with a driver of the increase in the inflation rate but with basically 4 companies controlling this market there is little incentive to bring prices down - in essence you have a type of a monopoly. A few blue bloods in basketball and football will end up controlling the NIL market thus setting the prices - a quasi monopoly.
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19 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:
It's going to be VERY interesting to see guys taking paycuts leaving college.
See Caitlin Clark
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18 hours ago, willie said:
Has the IRS ever issued a rulling on whether these contributions are tax deductible?
I believe so - in order to be tax deductible you must be able to show that you are doing public good. Now I understand that some can play fast and loose with that requirement. Also, I think only 80% of your Billiken Club donation is deductible. Why and how that % is reached I have no clue.
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41 minutes ago, GOSLU68 said:
It would not hurt us if Corey Tate was head coach at a local school, either!
I doubt he would make anything close at a high school that he made here so it may not hurt you but it will hurt him.
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4 hours ago, kshoe said:
Not every team is going to get a 25X increase. If you are a relative nobody team and all of a sudden become a top 25 team, you can expect a large increase.
Same goes for individual players. A player may be getting $20k a year somewhere, have a breakout season and be offered $500k somewhere else the next season. Of course the opposite could be true...a player may have a 200k deal then play poorly or get hurt and next year he is told he'll only be getting 50k or that he should hit the portal. There is a downside for players that don't perform as free agency every year for every player doesn't work out so well if you don't perform up to your contract.
The real question is how much will the entire pot of NIL funds grow each year. That's the true test of sustainability.
I get your point but if ISU would have to go from 80K to 2 million to keep the level they had then it won't be sustainable year after year. I guess we will see some schools spend big and then regress if they can't get the type of players they want. I also saw an article about Jerry Jones giving AR big money for NIL for Coach Cal to spend. This can get crazy real fast. I also think that at a school like Missouri the football team will syphon all the NIL money at some point especially if they play for a National Championship which some think is not that far fetched.
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4 hours ago, Bills By 40 said:
I was there. About what I expected.
Probably 60-70 people in total, wide age range. I'm 28 and was older than ~15% of the room.
Schertz accidentally went to the downtown MAC and didn't get to the Des Peres location until about 6. Troy spoke a bit, Chris May spoke a bit, then Schertz took the wheel. Good speech, dude is very funny, then he took a Q&A. Most of the questions were pretty worthless but he did drop a couple of noteworthy things:
1) Last year's ISU team was paid a combined 80k in NIL. Their market value today is as much as 2 mill.2) One of the recent recruits on campus brought their 12YO sister who made a fat joke towards Schertz - he found it very funny (as did I).
3) Gibby was scheduled for a visit to UConn this coming weekend before recommitting to SLU. We beat the two-time reigning national champion out for a transfer portal player, and arguably more importantly the two-time reigning national champion was interested in our shooting guard. Think about that next time anyone wants to talk down on Gibby.
4) Coach is still VERY confident that we get commitments from RA and IS this week. I'm very confident that those commitments will open the floodgates.
5) I asked coach 1 on 1 afterwards what he thought of the Billiken vs. "Team Blue" and it sounds like we can finally but that bullshite boring @$$ moniker to rest.
6) Charlie Gitto's is his favorite restaurant so far. Had it during the MVC tournament.
If this is true #1 that is a 25 times increase in one year if my math is correct. How can this kind of annual increases be sustainable even for the big boys.
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21 hours ago, willie said:
Assuming this article is acurate Schertz's hiring wasn't the done deal we all believed.
This is why I kept saying until a contract is signed it is not over and people scoffed. The bottom line is nothing is ever over until it is over.
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Do we know if this is a legit event - could it be a hack account?>
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40 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said:
Zyree Collins can create his own shot from anywhere. Walsh, getting him now as a role player might be a good move in landing the 7-foot-3 teammate eventually. Good to hear CJS has contacted them.
Giving a kid a schollie so you can maybe get a younger teammate is not something that often works out. Best to offer any kid you think will fit with your but not for other reasons.
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1 hour ago, Pistol said:
Graves was his lead recruiter. Seems like Indiana State is still his most likely landing spot.
I'm still not sure about Alderink or Birmingham, the other 2 ISU signees.
Would seem to me if Schertz thought Nitu was better, he would place his emphasis there.
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12 minutes ago, Zink said:
Yeah, just saying that it seems like NCAA and the US Govt are aligned on this.
I could have seen the NCAA trying to call NIL a form of work-study or stipend or something if they wanted to try to get away with it, like they did with “amateurism” for decades.
Instead, it looks like everyone is ok with not paying student visa holders (for now).
Well when players work-study there were probably not many international student athletes. The Federal Government laws have no reason to care about the NCAA
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I thought Rammer was supportive of Ford when all the stuff was happening?