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i promise, if i am the sole winner of BOTH the powerball and mega millions grand prizes this week, i will pay the rest of the needed funds and your statement can come true. how is that for going out on the line! p.s. i guess i better go buy tickets.

pinkie, you must be kidding? if you love him so much, plead with him to frequent your tigerboard. you can have him.

david check your e-mail. i will give you the rumor i heard.

a memphis fan posted this on their board today. no idea what her source is, but if true numbers interesting. can anyone verify if true? CUSA vs. Big East Louisville-18,929.....Syracuse-17,023 Memphis-16,225.....UCONN-13,709 Marquette-12,680.....St. John's-9,299 Cincy-12,058.....Seton Hall-8,341 St. Louis-11,598.....Georgetown-8,194 Charlotte-7,484.....Providence-8,006 S. Florida-5,197.....Villanova-7,325 DePaul-4,871.....Temple-7,123 ECU-4,603...Pitt-6,803 Houston-4,019.....Boston College-6,602 TCU-3,988.....W.Virginia-6,491 UAB-3,624.....Rutgers-5,802 S. Miss-3,179.....Miami-4,651 Tulane-2,370.....Va. Tech-3,501 CUSA had 5 teams in the top 30: Louisville #2 Memphis #10 Marquette #21 Cincy #25 St. Louis #30 Big East had 2 in the top 30: Syracuse #4 UCONN #19

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skip we have tried ignoring him. he is like johnson grass though. i try to stay away, but so so often he blantantly lies or misrepresents the true picture, someone has to say something.

as usual, tri, you apparently did zero homework before spewing your jibberish. first on xaiver, he indeed did list st louis as a finalist. this is from bob gibbons new website, "hoopmasters.com": "Two More Juniors Make Early Decisions By Jeremy Tiers [email protected] A pair of outstanding guards, one from Illinois, and the other from Texas, recently decided that they were ready to make their collegiate decision. Xavier Price, a 6-3 200 lbs. 2G with the St. Louis Eagles recently decided to offer Gene Keady and the Purdue Boilermakers a verbal commitment. Price has turned in strong performances this spring at the Howard Pulley/Sabes Invitational, St. Louis Eagles Invitational, and the NIKE MDC. He is a big time athlete and scoring guard that can handle the ball and brings energy and toughness to the table. As a junior, Price averaged 18.9 points, 5.5 rebounds and 2.7 assists per game at O’Fallon H.S. in O’Fallon, IL. Price chose Purdue over heavy interest from Cincinnati, UNLV, Oklahoma, St. Louis, and Kansas State, among others." as to his reasons for transferring to belleville west, i doubt seriously if it has any social roots other than the fact that o'fallon high sucks and belleville west is a returning final 8 team with 3 returning stars besides xaiver. that and the fact xaiver's father moved to belleville. maybe you could expand on your "socialism" comment more though for our benefit? second item of no research, thornton has already declared he is headed to xavier per chris monter. look it up for yourself at http://collegebasketballnews.theinsiders.com/ according to the story at chris' site, thorton didnt even consider louisville. it came down to xavier, michigan and boston college. atendance record vs arizona? why? no rivalry, not a returning close game it follows a blowout last year and most, besides our little circle of billiken hardcores, will expect the same this year. i personally will be suprised if the game sells out. the dome would have been a huge mistake. your efforts to try to make our papal conference dreams look non-politically correct have been comical. if it is so wrong to not have any religious diversity in this dreamed conference, then why isnt wrong that the big 12 has zero private religious affiliated schools in the makeup? wouldnt the diversity issue work both ways? last, still waiting to hear your comments on why pulley is now a candidate for big 12 player of the year when he was a coach romar recruit to st louis university you considered him poison? especially considering that he has demonstrated at st louis and at juco that he cant shoot. why the flip flop?

rich, i too was p.o'd when vince the mayor wouldnt let kiel be built across from the ballpark where those horrible warehouses were. but you have to hand it to vince now, the westin turned out gorgeous imo. the man had some forsight, he just didnt have the right developers lined up at the time. father biondi has never let old buildings stop him before in his rebirthing efforts i doubt anyone would stop him now. he's on a roll, let him run.

basketbill said, "I expect more from clarke going in than I did of Drejaj going in." i dont simply because the wing spots are full with returnee's drejaj and fisher and upper classmen newbies, bryant and morris. plus brad is on record saying that between sloan and izik, they will man the 3 and the 4 spot as well quite often. clarke will have to be very special to get a lot of minutes imo. i am not saying clarke isnt capable of that, we dont know. but the fact is we have a lot of folks coming back that will expect to get major minutes at the 3 guard/wing spots available. clarke is the obvious guy to see spotty time imo.

pinky, if you care to look around the board, you brought it up, not us.

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first off, jeffers wasnt a bad shooter. he is a better outside shooter than anyone we had on the team last year. second, i always took brad's statements about clarke being a difference maker as an eventual difference maker. a freshman difference maker would mean he is the equal of larry hughes. nothing i have read leads me to believe clarke is on that level now. he has the physical abilities to lead us to believe he can be mo jeffers or claggett or love someday. at least that is the approach i am taking with young mr clarke. now if he comes in next year and is the conference usa newcomer of the year, i will be happy to take back my comments, but personally, i expect him to be a typical very good freshman next year. moments of thrills but just as many times where you wonder why he is on the floor. think of drejaj last year. that would be a good typical good freshman season.

i think what billiken law is saying is that if the prospective recruit would have taken at least the basic classes that would transfer to a 4 year school like math, english, history, etc., then there is still a chance that the recruit would be at that level needed to transfer the needed classes that would fit into a major program at slu. however too many of these kids waste their two years at jucoland taking basketball 101, bowling, archery, swimming, etc to have any of the transferrable credits needed to be on pace to graduate in the required time.

senators giving advice and guideance on sports.........as in senator "sammy sooser and mike mcguire" kennedy? give me a break. they need to worry about how to work with president bush to fix the economy and let college basketball take care of itself.

thanks steve if you take braun and baniak's minutes played for the two years they played together, you will find that their rate of defensive rebounds and blocked shots per minutes played are almost identical. i simply do not remember baniak being any kind of defensive stalwart while playing for the billikens. he wasnt a slouch, but imo neither was braun. actually i guess the fact we are arguing about which two billiken underachievers was less inept is stupid. i move we drop the discussion.

my interpretation of clarke (i admittedly havent seen him play, but based on the reports read at recruiting sites) is a vision of what maurice jeffers might have been as a freshman. before he matured for two years in juco ball. of course that means clarke probably too has a little maturing to do with his game.

one more thing, my comparison to baniak is as much one of a non-contributor so to speak as it was to his specific style of play. i was never a heinrich booster. i still cringe remembering this 6'10" 270 lb man afraid to take up a shot and draw a foul. with his size alone he should have been dominating in the middle offensively. what is surprising is he wasnt afraid to throw it around defensively, so why disappear on the other end? when i think of what heinrich should have been, i think at least big country bryant in his days at ok state. in fact sheer strength and size should have put heinrich ahead of bryant. however, i dont think any of us will ever think of chris heinrich production in the same category with bryant.

since steve has removed his billiken past stat link, i cant research it, but if you look to the years that chris braun wasnt injured, i bet you will see he was one of the highest if not the leader on the team in blocked shots and defensive rebounds per minutes played. while i dont consider chris' billiken career a big success, and i tend to agree he played weak, (especially his final season when he was hurt) he held his own defensively and under the boards. if i was picking a defender between braun and baniak, i would take braun.

when brad was saying it was a game or two from being complete, no way he was talking about dates. opponents maybe, but my guess is conference usa determines the dates and locations of the conference games and i bet that hasnt been released yet.

shaw is a pure power forward. the problem is he is only 6'6" tall. but as a comparison to sloan, even now i dont consider sloan a power forward. he is a wing playing underneath and giving it his all. shaw is much more physically ready to play under the boards than maybe chris sloan is right now let alone as a freshman. the advantage sloan has is his out court ability and the quickness to guard the guards as well as the forwards. i dont think matt could cover conference usa guards. last, i dont want this to be taken as a swipe at chris sloan. chris sloan is one of my favorite players. i love his attitude and savy. if it needs to be done, count on chris to take it on. if only everyone had chris sloan's mental approach.

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everything i have read about all of these "bigs" is heinrich clones. count me in the "i gotta see it first" group. i still believe that only morris makes much of an impact. fericks will do laborous duty, but will go unnoticed. clark will have to battle the numbers for p.t. and the other two are just numbers at this point. i hope they all prove me wrong, but whatever impact we make next year will likely be because of bryant and improvements from returnees imo.

of course with a few well placed calls to a number of neighboring jucos and maybe 10 summer classes..........sorry, for a second i thought i was in columbia.

as a powerforward, there is no comparison. shaw is a pure power forward. unfortunately as tseugnekillib states, he is only about 6'6" tall. i have not seen any wing skills from shaw to even think he could play outside. sloan is an never has been a power forward. he is a small forward playing inside and doing a credible job at it. this past year we saw chris start to make more of his outside shots as well. what you get from shaw is a player that plays all out. rebounds and defends and runs the floor very well and jumps very well. i am struggling for a previous billiken he compares to. maybe a more offensive minded david robinson?

i got the goods today. thanks!