Billiken Law Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hofstra wants out of the CAA. It was never a good fit for them. The MAAC would be ideal for them but it looks like they may want to make a move to the A-10 since they are in it for football. No way they go down to the America East, one of the 3 weakest conferences in hoops. Does Fordham, with their finanical commitment issues, drop down to the MAAC and Hofstra moves up to the A-10? Hmmm, sounds like English Football relagation going on! http://www.newsday.com/sports/colleg...0,819758.story Hofstra explores parting ways with the CAABY STEVEN MARCUS | [email protected] 2:09 PM EDT, May 7, 2009 Hofstra will explore moving its intercollegiate athletic program out of the southern-based Colonial Athletic Association, persons familiar with the athletic program said Thursday. Hofstra did not say what has prompted its exploration, but it appears the university would prefer to have more of a northeast profile. The Atlantic-10 is Hofstra's first choice, those close to the situation said, but no openings currently exist in that New England-based group. Under the former administration of president James Shuart, Hofstra joined the CAA for the 2001-2002 season, leaving the America East right after the university's basketball teams had won two straight conference titles and bids to the NCAA Tournament. Hofstra joined the CAA so its football program could elevate from independent status to membership in the Atlantic-10 conference, which later blended football into the CAA. ``We have not had any conversations with representatives from the America East Conference regarding conference affiliation,'' Hofstra athletic director Jack Hayes said in a statement. ``That being said, conference affiliation is a subject that all institutions review on an ongoing basis. The growth of our institution and its athletics program dictates that reviews of this nature take place.'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billman Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hofstra wants out of the CAA. It was never a good fit for them. The MAAC would be ideal for them but it looks like they may want to make a move to the A-10 since they are in it for football. No way they go down to the America East, one of the 3 weakest conferences in hoops. Does Fordham, with their finanical commitment issues, drop down to the MAAC and Hofstra moves up to the A-10? Hmmm, sounds like English Football relagation going on! http://www.newsday.com/sports/colleg...0,819758.story Hofstra explores parting ways with the CAABY STEVEN MARCUS | [email protected] 2:09 PM EDT, May 7, 2009 Hofstra will explore moving its intercollegiate athletic program out of the southern-based Colonial Athletic Association, persons familiar with the athletic program said Thursday. Hofstra did not say what has prompted its exploration, but it appears the university would prefer to have more of a northeast profile. The Atlantic-10 is Hofstra's first choice, those close to the situation said, but no openings currently exist in that New England-based group. Under the former administration of president James Shuart, Hofstra joined the CAA for the 2001-2002 season, leaving the America East right after the university's basketball teams had won two straight conference titles and bids to the NCAA Tournament. Hofstra joined the CAA so its football program could elevate from independent status to membership in the Atlantic-10 conference, which later blended football into the CAA. ``We have not had any conversations with representatives from the America East Conference regarding conference affiliation,'' Hofstra athletic director Jack Hayes said in a statement. ``That being said, conference affiliation is a subject that all institutions review on an ongoing basis. The growth of our institution and its athletics program dictates that reviews of this nature take place.'' I think the A10 would be better with 16 than 14. I have no idea if Hofstra should be added, but I don't like the unfair schedule the A10 now has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I think the A10 would be better with 16 than 14. I have no idea if Hofstra should be added, but I don't like the unfair schedule the A10 now has. Who along with Hofstra would create that? Do you think that would make the conference stronger? Also, would the A10 expand before it contracted? Sooner or later, some dominoes are going to fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Who along with Hofstra would create that? Do you think that would make the conference stronger? Also, would the A10 expand before it contracted? Sooner or later, some dominoes are going to fall. Getting bigger makes no sense - I guess you could get bigger by 2 and then split into 2 divisions that never play the other division in conference or only 4 each year on a rotating basis - either way you end up with either an unbalanced schedule or one that never lets you see or play half the teams in your conf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Getting bigger makes no sense - I guess you could get bigger by 2 and then split into 2 divisions that never play the other division in conference or only 4 each year on a rotating basis - either way you end up with either an unbalanced schedule or one that never lets you see or play half the teams in your conf. I'd rather drop by 2 and get down to 12. That would be best in my opinion. Split into 2 divisions and then have each division play all in team divisions play each other twice and then out of division once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLfan Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I would be fine with adding Hofstra if we get to add another Midwestern school as well. I know some people say they are happy where they are but I would still like to see Butler added to the conference. Them or maybe Bradley though I am not sure Bradley would leave the MVC for the A10(16). If they did just add Hofstra that too could end up benefiting us depending on how they set up the conference. With 15 teams you can have three divisions. You would play the other 4 teams in your division twice. Once home and once away and play each other team in the conference once. Five home games and five away games. With the five teams you play away becoming the five home games the next season. This would allow us to develop better rivalries within the conference and give us two games a year with Dayton and Xavier and give us 18 conference games. The divisions would have to look something like this. (North, South, and West) North Fordham Hofstra La Salle Massachusetts Rhode Island South Charlotte George Washington Richmond St. Joseph Temple West Dayton Duquesne St. Bonaventure Saint Louis Xavier Current A10 Conference Map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLfan Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Just looked up some info on Hofstra Private School Enrollment - 13,000 Location - Hempstead, New York Arena Capacity - 5,124 2008 Attendance - 2,740 Number of NCAA bids - 4 Last NCAA appearance - 2001 Last NCAA win - Never Furthest tournament run - First Round Not the best resume, I think if we are going to add to the conference we could do better. Compare the above with Butler or Bradley Butler: Location - Indianapolis, Indiana Enrollment - 4,200 Arena Capacity - 10,000 2008 Attendance - 5,945 Number of NCAA bids - 9 Last NCAA appearance - 2009 Last NCAA win - 2008 Furthest tournament run - Sweet Sixteen Bradley: Location - Peoria, Illinois Enrollment - 6,105 Arena Capacity - 11,433 2008 Attendance - 9,600 Number of NCAA bids - 8 Last NCAA appearance - 2006 Last NCAA win - 2006 Furthest tournament run - Champ. Game Runner up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfootes Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Hofstra wants out of the CAA. It was never a good fit for them. The MAAC would be ideal for them but it looks like they may want to make a move to the A-10 since they are in it for football. No way they go down to the America East, one of the 3 weakest conferences in hoops. Does Fordham, with their finanical commitment issues, drop down to the MAAC and Hofstra moves up to the A-10? Hmmm, sounds like English Football relagation going on! http://www.newsday.com/sports/colleg...0,819758.story Hofstra explores parting ways with the CAABY STEVEN MARCUS | [email protected] 2:09 PM EDT, May 7, 2009 Hofstra will explore moving its intercollegiate athletic program out of the southern-based Colonial Athletic Association, persons familiar with the athletic program said Thursday. Hofstra did not say what has prompted its exploration, but it appears the university would prefer to have more of a northeast profile. The Atlantic-10 is Hofstra's first choice, those close to the situation said, but no openings currently exist in that New England-based group. Under the former administration of president James Shuart, Hofstra joined the CAA for the 2001-2002 season, leaving the America East right after the university's basketball teams had won two straight conference titles and bids to the NCAA Tournament. Hofstra joined the CAA so its football program could elevate from independent status to membership in the Atlantic-10 conference, which later blended football into the CAA. ``We have not had any conversations with representatives from the America East Conference regarding conference affiliation,'' Hofstra athletic director Jack Hayes said in a statement. ``That being said, conference affiliation is a subject that all institutions review on an ongoing basis. The growth of our institution and its athletics program dictates that reviews of this nature take place.'' Why would Fordham leave the A10? They aren't competing right now, but I haven't heard any indication that they're wanting to downgrade. A couple of years ago there were a few folks on here complaining that St. Bonnie should be dumped from the conference. As I said at the time, I feel like we should at leeast be competing for a title before we start wishing that the conference would start dumping teams that have been around a lot longer. I'd probably rather take a trip to the Bronx than Hempstead, LI. The article mentions that the A10 is a "New England-based group". I think only 2 of the teams are actually in New England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I don't think Fordham will leave barring severe NCAA sanctions of the A-10 kicking them out. They aren't under investigation and the A-10 will not throw out a member team. Fordham will be no better than UMSL next year so hopefully the tide will turn. I don't think a program like Hofstra would strengthen our league. At least make a few tourneys before you wanna move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Law Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 Why would Fordham leave the A10? They aren't competing right now, but I haven't heard any indication that they're wanting to downgrade. A couple of years ago there were a few folks on here complaining that St. Bonnie should be dumped from the conference. As I said at the time, I feel like we should at leeast be competing for a title before we start wishing that the conference would start dumping teams that have been around a lot longer. I'd probably rather take a trip to the Bronx than Hempstead, LI. The article mentions that the A10 is a "New England-based group". I think only 2 of the teams are actually in New England. Money, that's why. I don't advocate pushing anyone out, but when the head coach openly says they should drop because they refuse to make the financial commitment, well, then the talk is legitimately out there. Either (Fordham of Hofstra) would be perfect in the MAAC if they chose to go that route. Hofstra, on the other hand, is making the financial commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurking Dog Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I would be fine with adding Hofstra if we get to add another Midwestern school as well... I propose the Martin & Lewis conference, named after the late Ohio native Dean Martin and Missouri River explorer Meriweather Lewis. Both basketball fans. Great comedy team, too. Xavier Dayton St. Louis Butler Drake Bradley Creighton Evansville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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