Fox Sports says Majerus a genius no more

[brianstl]

We aren't discounting Ian's value one iota. If you look at historical posts, Skip and I were at the forefront of Ian cheerleaders, and Tommie definitely had conversations with Jale regarding Ian's contributions. It was obvious that Ian created huge spacing advantages for Tommie, as he shot that twinkletoed 3 ptr all season, with very little lift off the floor. Jale would be one of the first to point out Luke's great game can be traced to Dayton being coached to allow Luke to kill them, but not the LLs. It was a war of attrition, and in the end, Luke went a little cold, Tommie was controlled, and Kevin ran out of energy(as Roy noted) running through triple screens all night.

Rickma stressed his system and his paradigms at the beginning of the season to the point that the LLs were in a tharn state for much of the early games, unsure of the lattitude they had within the system, because Rickma hadn't taught them that lesson yet.

The point is coaching. If you are in a season where your two best players are the spear carriers for the entire team, you can either develop strategies within your system to stress their talents, or you can teach the system and accept the status quo results. When I look at a box score and don't see Luke with the third highest shot attempts, or see walkons with ten attempts, I know we have another loss. Eberle and Polk will not win us games on offense this year. The other team has successfully dictated how we play our offense, and forced our low percentage shooters who can't create space into highly contested shots or long distance threes.

Rickma plays a system where we have even fewer offensive possessions than under FRUBS. If he fully implements the Utah offensive schemes next year, I think we will see about 4 ppg less than this year, as the freshmen will have a long learning curve, and will get even more chewed up that this year's team has been. We will be in the same offensive quandry with Luke being replaced by Barry, Polk being Eberle, and Husak being the freshmen committee.

Mitchell will replace Polk, as the class stands now. Conklin and Barry replace Luke, right now. We also have more guys to rotate at the 4 and 5 with BE, BC, BT, and WR.

I think Mitchell alone will lead to a slight increase in the number of processions. Having a true point guard, even a freshman one, will help the offense. If we land a good juco pg the processions increase even more.

[brianstl]

Mitchell will replace Polk, as the class stands now. Conklin and Barry replace Luke, right now. We also have more guys to rotate at the 4 and 5 with BE, BC, BT, and WR.

I think Mitchell alone will lead to a slight increase in the number of processions. Having a true point guard, even a freshman one, will help the offense. If we land a good juco pg the processions increase even more.

I, also, think the learning curve will be no longer than the learning curve this year. If anything, it will be shorter. You have people on the roster that have been in the system for a year, which helps the newcomers. It will also help that the team will have a true point guard and multiple big men that are the type of players that work best in this sytem. Having four guys to rotate at the 4 and 5 spots will make a big difference in how this offense preforms.

[BIG BILL FAN]

We aren't discounting Ian's value one iota. If you look at historical posts, Skip and I were at the forefront of Ian cheerleaders, and Tommie definitely had conversations with Jale regarding Ian's contributions. It was obvious that Ian created huge spacing advantages for Tommie, as he shot that twinkletoed 3 ptr all season, with very little lift off the floor. Jale would be one of the first to point out Luke's great game can be traced to Dayton being coached to allow Luke to kill them, but not the LLs. It was a war of attrition, and in the end, Luke went a little cold, Tommie was controlled, and Kevin ran out of energy(as Roy noted) running through triple screens all night.

Rickma stressed his system and his paradigms at the beginning of the season to the point that the LLs were in a tharn state for much of the early games, unsure of the lattitude they had within the system, because Rickma hadn't taught them that lesson yet.

The point is coaching. If you are in a season where your two best players are the spear carriers for the entire team, you can either develop strategies within your system to stress their talents, or you can teach the system and accept the status quo results. When I look at a box score and don't see Luke with the third highest shot attempts, or see walkons with ten attempts, I know we have another loss. Eberle and Polk will not win us games on offense this year. The other team has successfully dictated how we play our offense, and forced our low percentage shooters who can't create space into highly contested shots or long distance threes.

Rickma plays a system where we have even fewer offensive possessions than under FRUBS. If he fully implements the Utah offensive schemes next year, I think we will see about 4 ppg less than this year, as the freshmen will have a long learning curve, and will get even more chewed up that this year's team has been. We will be in the same offensive quandry with Luke being replaced by Barry, Polk being Eberle, and Husak being the freshmen committee.

Your rationale is ridiculous, on one hand you say that you are not discounting Ian's performance but then say that his absence shouldn't matter. You still seem unable or unwilling to realize that Ian's presence made others bettter players. Make up your mind, either Ian was a better player than the bigs we have now or he isn't. If you agree that he was better, then quit saying that it shouldn't make any difference on the court.

[Sheltiedave]

For the last time, BBF, I do not look at who is missing from this year's team to justify losses. Ian is never ever going to play another game for SLU, so his lack this year and in the future is moot. I believe in a continuous quality improvement process so we move forward toward excellance. No matter how much we complain, *****, say hosannas, or writhe in ecstatic rapture that we have a genius for a head coach, we need to improve.

You are welcome to argue with yourself. It is becoming clear that you are here to argue, but not advance, any discussion in this thread.

[Sheltiedave]

Mitchell will replace Polk, as the class stands now. Conklin and Barry replace Luke, right now. We also have more guys to rotate at the 4 and 5 with BE, BC, BT, and WR.

I think Mitchell alone will lead to a slight increase in the number of processions. Having a true point guard, even a freshman one, will help the offense. If we land a good juco pg the processions increase even more.

Mitchell better get us some quick shots early in our possessions...right now we are about #330!

From Ken Pomeroy...

TEMPO/PACE OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY PYTHAG WINNING PCT

Team (Conf T/O/D/P) Raw (Rank) Adjusted(Rk) Raw (Rank) Adjusted(Rk) Raw (Rank) Adjusted(Rk) Adjusted(Rk)

Holy Cross (Pat) 60.7 (328) 60.2 (331) 102.3 (145) 101.1 (164) 97.5 (107) 97.1 (114) .613 (132)

Presbyterian (ind) 60.7 (329) 60.2 (332) 92.4 (288) 93.8 (252) 112.4 (327) 113.0 (322) .105 (303)

St. Louis (A10) 58.1 (336) 60.0 (333) 93.6 (274) 93.4 (256) 98.8 (126) 96.8 (111) .398 (191)

Bethune Cookman (MEAC) 58.8 (335) 59.8 (334) 90.2 (305) 86.9 (320) 101.8 (184) 109.5 (294) .066 (319)

Princeton (Ivy) 58.9 (334) 59.3 (335) 90.0 (306) 90.1 (297) 107.6 (288) 107.7 (273) .114 (299)

Stephen F. Austin (Slnd) 60.4 (330) 59.1 (336) 102.2 (147) 100.8 (169) 91.1 ( 38) 96.3 (102) .629 (125)

Miami OH (MAC) 57.9 (338) 58.8 (337) 102.1 (153) 110.0 ( 60) 105.3 (249) 98.6 (133) .779 ( 88)

Air Force (MWC) 58.1 (337) 58.4 (338) 102.3 (143) 100.5 (175) 96.6 ( 97) 99.6 (151) .524 (153)

Denver (SB) 56.3 (341) 56.7 (339) 95.8 (247) 93.6 (254) 103.0 (208) 101.1 (175) .292 (228)

Delaware St. (MEAC) 57.2 (340) 56.6 (340) 91.5 (295) 93.4 (258) 117.2 (339) 113.5 (330) .096 (305)

Samford (OVC) 57.2 (339) 55.0 (341) 95.8 (248) 90.7 (292) 106.2 (268) 108.1 (282) .116 (297)

[brianstl]

Mitchell better get us some quick shots early in our possessions...right now we are about #330!

From Ken Pomeroy...

TEMPO/PACE OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY PYTHAG WINNING PCT

Team (Conf T/O/D/P) Raw (Rank) Adjusted(Rk) Raw (Rank) Adjusted(Rk) Raw (Rank) Adjusted(Rk) Adjusted(Rk)

Holy Cross (Pat) 60.7 (328) 60.2 (331) 102.3 (145) 101.1 (164) 97.5 (107) 97.1 (114) .613 (132)

Presbyterian (ind) 60.7 (329) 60.2 (332) 92.4 (288) 93.8 (252) 112.4 (327) 113.0 (322) .105 (303)

St. Louis (A10) 58.1 (336) 60.0 (333) 93.6 (274) 93.4 (256) 98.8 (126) 96.8 (111) .398 (191)

Bethune Cookman (MEAC) 58.8 (335) 59.8 (334) 90.2 (305) 86.9 (320) 101.8 (184) 109.5 (294) .066 (319)

Princeton (Ivy) 58.9 (334) 59.3 (335) 90.0 (306) 90.1 (297) 107.6 (288) 107.7 (273) .114 (299)

Stephen F. Austin (Slnd) 60.4 (330) 59.1 (336) 102.2 (147) 100.8 (169) 91.1 ( 38) 96.3 (102) .629 (125)

Miami OH (MAC) 57.9 (338) 58.8 (337) 102.1 (153) 110.0 ( 60) 105.3 (249) 98.6 (133) .779 ( 88)

Air Force (MWC) 58.1 (337) 58.4 (338) 102.3 (143) 100.5 (175) 96.6 ( 97) 99.6 (151) .524 (153)

Denver (SB) 56.3 (341) 56.7 (339) 95.8 (247) 93.6 (254) 103.0 (208) 101.1 (175) .292 (228)

Delaware St. (MEAC) 57.2 (340) 56.6 (340) 91.5 (295) 93.4 (258) 117.2 (339) 113.5 (330) .096 (305)

Samford (OVC) 57.2 (339) 55.0 (341) 95.8 (248) 90.7 (292) 106.2 (268) 108.1 (282) .116 (297)

I thought you were saying we would be even slower next year. I don't think we will be. This is never going to be a fast paced team under Majerus. I never understood the people who thought that. His Utah teams were never fast paced. It will hopefully be a team that has a high point per procession ratio like his Utah teams did.