JettFlight5

They also stuck a gag order on Majerus.

I guess it matters when the suspension officially ends. If it ends the last day of the first semester, then they should be immediately eligible to re-enroll right away.

I guess part of this is what they apologize for. If they apologize for being drunk (or something on those lines), fine. If they are forced to apologize for a rape/sexual assault, it's a whole other question.

That's dirty there. Maybe they thought you'd buy another set when all the really pissed off people try to return them.

Wow...

I agree with your evaluation of Majerus. That is why I think hiim leaving is such a bad thing.

As I stated earlier, I was a big Vegas fan growing up.

I guess the bigger point is that SLU put its image in front of its team.

Losing Rick would be as bad as anything I've seen.

If Rick leaves, it will be the low point for this program. They are already showing that winning isn't that important by gutting the best SLU team in awhile.

As of now, we have nothing either way. Until we hear differently, Player X and Player Y are still on the team preparing for November 2.

If the players aren't disciplined, I think Strickland should be sued for slander.

Tis our luck, ain't it?

As for Bauman....you know what, I'll admit I was wrong. I want to win, but you said something very profound with your quote about Representing SLU. I was looking at wins and losses. In the best interests of all involved, you are probably right. Yes, I will still proudly say I graduated from St. Louis University School of Law in 2004. Reminds me of the SI poll a few years ago where fans were asked whether they'd be happier if their football coach was Fisher DeBerry (strait-laced Air Force Academy Coach with limited success), or Dennis Erickson (won a ton at Miami with problems all over the place). The vote was nearly split, and that shocked me. I thought that winning cures all ills. Maybe there are some things winning can't cure. I am extremely interested to see how Roy answers this. Yes, I'm in the B_Roy fan club. Can I still root for the Billikens either way?

So do we have to give 2 sets of predictions now? With Full Team: 24-6 Without : 16-14

You're probably right. I respect your opinion highly. Ok, how about stay classy and start winning big?

I'm a win at all costs guy. So we can agree to disagree there. The Bills are improving, and improving the "right" way. From seeing your stance on other issues, I will take you at your word. I still think that title would be pretty nice though.

Are we more worried about winning games or image here? I don't think the Miami Hurricanes (football) title teams of the 80s were all choirboys either. If they are removed from the school, I am wrong and will admit it. I earned the right to say I graduated from SLU, presumably just as you did. I did say "personal behavior be damned". Quite simply, I am so tired of taking the moral "high road" and not winning.

I think the part where you were going to say something was left off.

Really, murder? Where did that get mentioned? I am a SLU Law Grad who wants to see this team better at all costs. Having those players makes the team better, so I want them to remain on the team. That is all my statement meant.

Roy, I respect you quite a bit from the A-10 board, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I want to see winning teams going to the Tournament every year. If it takes some less than perfect characters, so be it. In short, I want to see wins, and not particularly worried how they come. For all his misgivings and hatred for the Rule Book, he has more titles than many other teams (ours included).

I have a slightly different take on this situation. If they aren't convicted, they should be allowed to play. Just like I don't decry Jerry Tarkanian for cheating, I think you put the best team on the floor until the police or NCAA says they can't play. Once Joyce declined to press charges, there should have been no possibility of future action. I want the best basketball players representing my team, personal behavior be damned. Michael Vick sure found a job quick, didn't he?

Would that be considered an extra benefit?

been using it for years on different message boards.

I don't buy the looking past SLU argument for a second. If you do, you're downplaying the job one Rick Majerus did in getting his guys ready to play. SLU is on its way to making a mark on this league. This is the next step in the progression...making teams like 8-Dayton guaranteed wins. Once we get there, the sky's the limit. Dayton is a team of good players and one of the worst game coaches on the planet. He cost Dayton half their losses last year. SLU doesn't have that problem. It's Temple/X at the top until somebody knocks them off...so let's be the one to do it.