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Sure, if he lands Suggs, that certainly helps his job security.

I think Luke has earned the respect of most people on here, but he's not Dobbs. DD did it against better competition in the Great Midwest. He averaged 17 ppg as a junior and 16 as a senior. He was second-team all-conference

Roy, I would move your time frame up a year. Soderberg's ace in the hole is that junior class. We should know by this fall. If he can't land some of those top recruits and if he fails to make the Big Dance in 07-08, firing him after that season is the perfect time to do it. Having Tommie and Kevin for their senior seasons, entering a new building would make this program pretty attractive for a coach. It would give the program a fresh start. If Soderberg can't get us into the tourney after 6 seasons and can't hit it big with that junior high school recruiting class, he doesn't deserve the opportunity to coach in the new building.

Good post Roy. I think we're finding some common ground here. One key player you are missing from Claggett's junior season - Donnie Dobbs (16 points and 6 rebounds). That team had a big 4 (Clag, Dobbs, Waldman and Highmark) and several nice role players. We have a big 2 and a couple of nice role players. There's a lot of work to be done with one signing period and I think even a disappointing Ian will be more difficult to replace than you think. We'd be thrilled to find 11 ppg and 8 rpg from a big.

Fair enough, but several of us pointed out on this board during last recruiting periods, that Soderberg did not get the job done... for that, he also needs to be held accountable. Even lowly Duquesne was able to bring in several freshme who have been able to contribute (and even beat us). The Claggett team following that sophomore season added Waldman, Robinson, Harris and Turner the following season and basically returned everybody. I'm skeptical that Soderberg can bring in that type of talent to help Tommie and Kevin. Also, we're going to have to replace our leading rebounder.

>slu72, maybe that tells you that those in the know see the >picture for what it is and it isnt coach soderberg's fault. It isn't Coach Soderberg's fault that a team that you said was better than the Clag/Waldman teams isn't even in the top 100 right now? It isn't Soderberg's fault that he landed NOBODY in last year's recruiting class to help us this year? Roy, it's ok to admit you were wrong about something. It's ok to hold Soderberg accountable for some mistakes. The longer you fail to do either, the less credibility you have.

>i can no longer see how anyone can defend vouyoukas. i dont >care if he quadruple teamed. he cant be that bad >offensively. turnovers, missed shots, missed free throws. >forget it. i am just baffled by his non-improvement. >especially after everyone that mattered telling him how >close he was. how can it be explained? > >we went into the season with the assumption he was an a-10 >contender for player of the year. he is no where close to >it. and i dont want to hear about increased attention. you >dont think tommie and kevin garner more intense attention? >it doesnt seem to be bringing them back to the pack. >granted kevin had the month where he was beat to hell, but >he and liddell have carried the team the last two games. >and liddell even further back. > >ironically, so many people said we had to win this year >because vouyoukas would be gone next year, now i cant wait >for him to be gone and someone else comes in to be lisch and >liddell rebounders and defenders. no way it can be worse >and i am now more optimistic about lisch and liddell's final >years than i was when i thought we really had a possible nba >player with them. Even a bad Ian has averaged 11 points and 8 rebounds per game. We have no big on our current roster who can come close to matching that and Soderberg hasn't exactly been knocking them dead with recent recruiting, so I'm just a bit skeptical that he will be able to land a player who can step right in and match that production. Thanks to Sodeberg's poor recruiting we have three good players, 2 decent role players and 8 roster spots that are contributing NOTHING this season.

Sorry Rich, the guy has rambled on about his support of W and the war (you have to be smart to be a right-winger?!?! LOL!). He's yours. There are cooks on all sides of the political spectrum. I would hope you could at least admit that.

Your board highlights include endorsing one of metz's racist posts and then getting an endorsement from Alumnifan. Then you capped it off by encouraging Tommie Liddell's father to have Tommie transfer to Mizzou. You're not the first Mizloser to get exposed on this board. You are a fraud. I don't know if your daddy is really the dean of the Mizzou business school, but thanks for sharing that with us. Now I have this image in my mind of you being a geeky looking guy with a grey perm.

Roy, specifically let's talk about recruiting last year. I was sounding the warning bell, when a lot of people were saying we had enough talent and everything would work out. Following the Tommie and Kevin signings, Brad didn't even need to hit it big. We're not asking for Mickey D All-Americans. We were just looking for a couple of nice role players who could contribute something this year. Spoon wasn't always the greatest recruiter, but he had a class of Turner, Harris Robinson, and Campbell. No, All-Americans in that group, but some useful players who immediately improved the team's depth. We needed a class like that last year. We didn't get one useful player for this year. We couldn't even help offset the loss of Drejaj, which is not exactly like trying to replace Marque or Justin Love.

Nobody is buying your crap any more. Tommie isn't going to play for the yahoos in Columbia. You and your perm-headed daddy should worry more about the sorry state of your program and their pathetic attendance.

Nashville, congratulations for admitting your point #2. Maybe some day Roy will.

Since when is playing AK over JJ such a radical idea? Could AK be much worse than JJ? One thing I know for certain, he is 4 years younger and therefore is much more important to the future than JJ, who is not even that important to the present. It's amazing how many people want to stay the course.

There's no reason to play JJ over AK at this point. We're not playing for an at-large bid, so I can live with some growing pains AK may go through. Give him JJ's minutes the rest of the way and let him gain some experience. He's going to need it heading into next year and who knows, with a little playing time he may be a contributer by the time this year's conference tournament rolls around.

A lot of excitement? Hahaha! They are drawing less than we are. They had 7,300 for a conference game on a Saturday. The PD does a front page article about how bad your attendnace is. They haven't won a conference game, but everything is peachy?!?! Talk about low standards.

If Mizzou has so much going for them, why has it been several years since they've made the Big Dance? Why is attendance so crappy? I don't even want to speculate on why the locals haven't embraced Anderson. It seems like you and daddy should put your perms together and figure out how to solve that first, before you worry about SLU.

I think you're right. The homo erotic obsession he has with you, roy and skip leads me to believe it's the other. Earlier, he also made some thinly veiled reference to skip's battle with him.

I have a source in Columbia, who has a grey afro. Let me just say, the word up there is that the players are fed up with Anderson. No wins in the conference? Playing in front of a half empty house. It looks like there might be a player revolt.

I never really understood the need for it since we are in a venue where people can communicate with each other. Besides, I'm not even sure where to activate it and I never cared enough to even look into it.

So yesterday, you retract what you said about Tommie transfering to Mizzou, but today you are back to advocating that position. Keep digging yourself a bigger hole. If the NBA scouts found Ian last year, they know where to watch Tommie play. Mizzou is getting 7,300 fans on a good day. What kind of exposure is that?

"boardfan" is starting to sound more and more like the old Mizloser Billiphan or perhaps joey fluegel. The Mizlosers are wild again. They must have a lot of free time because none of them are going to their games.

I think the guy should cut that 'fro and get a better job. Mizzou? Hell, UMSL has a better Business School. I would sit this guy down and tell him that he needs to step it up. He should transfer to Stanford or perhaps the Ivy League. Go where he's get more exposure.

http://business.missouri.edu/1312/260.aspx

Why in the world was it removed? You should put it in your signature to remind everybody what that idiot is all about. The gist of it was that he was encouraging Tommie to transfer to Mizzou. Anytime Cajun says "we" when referring to SLU, just understand that he's full of it.

Cagin, do you think "we" should encourage Tommie to transfer to Mizzou first? Just when I think things are bad here, I look down I-70 to that cesspool in Columbia. A big BCS school, with a lot of $$ and laxed academic standards (Where have you gone Ricky Clemons). They have all those resources and administrative support, yet their results are no better than ours. How embarrassing.