billiken_roy
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1 minute ago, billikenfan05 said:
IT IS CHRIS MAY'S JOB TO DO THIS.
Pot calling the kettle black if I've ever heard it. Keep getting those belly scratches from Chris May. Does he bite his nails or is he a manicure guy?
You obviously did not read previous replies. Or else you apparently have reading comprehension issues.
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1 minute ago, DeSmetBilliken said:
Others have responded to this well, so I don’t need to repeat their comments. The bottom line is that Chris May and whoever else was involved in Ford’s last contract extension on SLU’s behalf made by all indications a bad deal. The fact that the BOT approved the deal does not absolve May from responsibility at all. If Chris May or anyone else at SLU is just willingly agreeing to questionable deals and figuring “I’ll just let the BOT decide if it’s good or not”, that’s ridiculous.
If you go back to previous exchanges about the contract I said there should be blame for all. I have only said that the BoT would have had final say and by rubber stamping the contract they share in the problem. Never have I said he is exempt of all blame
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9 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:
This is a bit right? You’re not being serious at this point and trolling now, correct? You’re literally blaming “the organization” and Chris May’s in charge of the organization to which you’re referring. Chris May’s role is literally that, to present the necessary information to the BoT.
You are taking my comment out of context. Go back and read desmet's comment where he insinuates that the board comes to the meeting with no insight on topics to be decisioned. This is why I am saying that the board should have had that information in hand before the meeting.
You are something.
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20 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said:
This 100%. I admittedly don’t know what the voting standard to pass the BOT is (unanimous, 3/4, 2/3, majority), but do we really want (insert name of BOT member who isn’t involved in athletics here ) delaying personnel decisions for athletics by going all Henry Fonda in 12 Angry Men, or like a city council member holding legislation hostage to get a carve-out for their district? Absolutely not. Just think about it…we have an agreement on a deal with a new coach, but then 3-4 board members slow up the process because someone told them that we should be hiring Bruce Weber or Tom Crean instead. Then the deal with the other coach falls through. That would be a bad deal.
A good organization would have the necessary information to the BoT that allows them to be prepared before the meeting happens.
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38 minutes ago, slufan13 said:
Right imagine if Trudy Busch Valentine was coming into BOT meetings slamming her fist saying the athletic department shouldn't do xyz or hire abc. These people defer to each other BOT member's area of expertise. And Chaifetz/May thought this was a good contract. It wasn't. I don't even mind the salary. I think that's a good thing. But they bid against themselves. It should have never even gotten to the BOT. May should have laughed when Ford's agent first brought up the idea.
You should be questioning why a registered nurse is on the BoT
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1 hour ago, Pistol said:
I'm just so curious as to how you think a board of directors works.
In the link above your post, it says "The board meets four times a year". Look at the titles next to their names. This isn't the only thing these people do with their lives.
ive never been with an organization where a board of directors ONLY concerns themselves with showing up 4x a year to address concerns, ideas, and progress. an effective BOD will be actively involved quite frequently and be instrumental in the development and well being of that particular organization. so i guess i am going to throw that back at you, How do you think "a board of directors works?" maybe you are thinking of giant corporations and organizations where i am thinking a billion dollar or less asset sized organization.
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1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said:
Zyree would be the 6th man on this team.
that's hard for me to believe as i have become so disapointed on our point guards on this team. turnovers has been the achilles heel for this season and one has to believe if he approaches his older brother's ability to be a point guard he would fix that problem or at least decrease it. so to say he would be 6th man means he couldnt oust either one of our point guards?
i admit i havent seen him play, so i cant comment beyond the above, but i have more confidence in your player takes than anyone on this board.
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a bomb, if they are too busy then maybe they shouldnt have accepted the responsibility. not only our athletic department, but the school as a whole deserves more attention and focus than what i am seeing for results.
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i couldnt care less about NBA experience. i hate to watch the NBA. i dont even consider it basketball. it is a show. as the long time cliche goes, "the nba is about the name on the back of the jersey, but college is about the name on the front".
the only attribute about ahearn that intrigues me is the fact he was/is one hell of a shooter. i would love to have him on the staff to teach shooting. he would even have great worth to lure the portal beings to come and learn to shoot. but beyond that at this point in his career, that is where his worth ends imo. he needs to go run a high school, or juco or a small college team and show the world he can actually run a program. at that point i would be glad to pay him college head coaching money. but for now, he's a shooting coach imo. nothing more.
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27 minutes ago, slu92 said:
May has been there 17 years. Totally screwed up lighting gift by declining that gift and royally pissing off well connected local guys by insulting their dad’s legacy by not taking their gift, because he didn’t want to spend $150/200k for install! But instead spent over $20 million on a building baseball team, along with others can’t even eat in that’s not paid off. No press box, no seating, no normal dugouts, no heating or cooling for indoor hitting “garage” but can be allowed to hand out dumbest mbb contract and waste millions and millions?
SIUE and Lindenwood actually market and ticket baseball program. I’ll bet they make more revenue than slu wsoc. Slu is just lazy and not interested, starts at the top. Keep defending May, that’s a great hill to die on. Guy could care less about anybody but himself or university but you defend him. lol
you think may approved the champion center? he might have been the guy to organize the campaign and find the booster that is paying for it, but ther BoT would have approved a project of that magnitude. what do you do for a living?
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13 minutes ago, brianstl said:
would be too much of a risk given our current situation with no college head coaching experience.
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1 minute ago, slu92 said:
Saw the baseball squad play at SIUE and beat them again and wondered if the AD knows that’s what a normal baseball stadium looks like? Guy just is awful. He really needs to wake up and look at Lindenwood last week and SIUE today, oh and they had replay at both places. Which is embarrassing too. Nothing flashy, just a normal baseball stadium. May really has no clue.
while i agree that SLU needs to update their baseball and softball venues, why do you think May is to blame for that? is he supposed to pay for that himself? the athletic department budget and capital improvements are approved by the BoT. go talk to them.
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its my opinion with the crazy portal and the NiL scenario, recruiting high schoolers will only break your heart. if they dont live up to the potential that coach saw, they will fail and if they do, the players transfer to bigger and better. might as well get on the portal and NiL train as well rather than recruit as we have forever. those days appear to be over if you ask me.
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8 hours ago, cgeldmacher said:
I understand the draw of getting a younger guy who’s on the rise. The problem is I just don’t see who they’ve beat this year. I don’t wanna get too excited about a guy who hasn’t really accomplished anything this year, at least not yet. If Drake is your best win this year and you also lost to Drake that’s not all that exciting.
so you want to penalize the guy who has been shunned by the afraid to play big boys? hell we cant get big schools to play and we are in a major metro area. he has to get schools to want to come to Terre Haute Indiana. plus the MVC does nothing for those wanted opponents. you just know they are preaching "we have nothing to gain playing you."
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Just now, Soderball said:
Losing UMass is a rough blow to the conference. We need to be shedding dead weight like Fordham, LaSalle, Duquesne, (or SLU)
I was happy to see Loyola in because of the Chicago market but to trade out Butler & X for Loyola and Davidson was ugly.
Davidson is a straight trash program now since elder McKillop retired. We keep bringing in WEAK teams with no fanbase.
soderball, slu is without a doubt a weak sister now. but this has not been an annual performance. so i wouldnt put us in that group. the answer to cutting the weak sisters has always been putting minimums on the programs. minimum athletic facilities, minimum athletic budgets with another budget just for basketball since it is pretty much the entire conference's bread and butter.
there has to be a way to encourage these snobby "no care about the athletic department" presidents to step up. i do fear our own sheldon is right in line with the rest of them. but maybe if all programs understand they have to start spending some money and bringing the face of their program into the 21st century and try to actually win, maybe the A-10 can turn things around and those that wont comply would seek other alternatives.
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13 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said:
At this point, it is in the A10's best interests to not replace UMass, and stay at 14 teams, unless from SLU's perspective the replacement comes from the Central Time Zone. Drake of the MVC has a NET of 46 and as of today, per a pure following of the NET, would have the 35th of the 36 NCAA At Large Bids. Right now the best candidates for A10 expansion are Drake and Bradley, both from the MVC and both being old SLU MVC rivals. Bradley, NET 65 is NIT bound absent winning Arch Madness. No one else comes close to moving the needle.
agree. but please no more lesser teams. at least try to match what umass was. they were nothing great but i dont want some of the no doubt one bid conferences that never has and never will get an at large berth.
i absolutely do not want to go to the mvc. i would likely turn in my slu affiliation for sure at that point.
the conference going downhill has all to do with the worthless leadership of the conference. and honestly our milk toast president hasnt done anything to make it better.
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i thought i read somewhere that both the suns and the nets were off the hook and goodwin was not going to get paid the original money for some reason. maybe i dreamt that. hope so. i am not happy about the 2-way deal, but at least he's still in the nba. i got a feeling he is down the bench or they would have given him a regular contract.
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2 hours ago, cgeldmacher said:
Am I missing something? Grizzlies have a 9 game losing streak. They bring in JG and give him some decent minutes, including a start, and win their next two games, including one over the Bucks. Then, the very next game, JG doesn’t see the court, and they lose. What’s wrong with their coach.
There's a reason this team sucks.
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wish I been there for Wiz Day. i didnt know and chose to attend two of my Grandson's select games instead. Congratulations Wiz. What a day.
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If college sports becomes purely professional im definitely done with the Billikens. If I want to watch pure professional basketball or football I'll go to NFL or NBA games where the best athletes play. Not a disguised minor league.
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1 hour ago, Soderball said:
You're worried about stuff and programs that don't matter, Roy. Money matters. The best players are there for the payday.
What you're talking about about you may as well go down to the YMCA and watch rec leagues.
You see you're only concern is basketball. I care about saving the idea of real student athletes. It sickens me that academics is nearing elimination with athletics.
I'm bordering on wishing we go to D3 if the direction of where D1 is headed doesn't excite me in the least.
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2 hours ago, Old guy said:
Did you see what Soderball posted right before my two prior posts saying that the schools would have to abandon the "school " part? Like it or not, there has to be some kind of a mechanism to identify those kids that go into college level education with a firm desire to enter professional sports. College athletics paid by scholarships has provided this testing ground. The vast majority of kids playing college athletics, including those desiring to go professional or not, have no future in professional sports. To introduce salaries, unionization , and NILs into the process just makes it harder for those who have no future as sport professionals and will profit the most from the scholarships.
old guy it isnt enough to give scholarships. there has to be a concerted effort of both the school and the student to excel and succeed in their academic pursuits. supplying a scholarship but then not enforcing actually completing a degree just passing through is a fail. that student shouldnt be in college. head to rankin and learn a trade. i am sure those institutes can provide a basketball and/or football experience but at least they have an outlet for a fallback career in case they do not make it to the detroit pistons roster.
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6 hours ago, Old guy said:
Adding to my prior post there are 362 Division 1 Basketball programs, each of these have 13 students under scholarship. That means 1086 Division 1 kids under Basketball scholarships. There is not enough room in the professional basketball leagues for all of these kids to go into paid semiprofessional teams as students. Undoubtedly these semi professional leagues will be developed, but they will not take all the kids playing Division 1 college basketball at this time. Note that I do not include the students playing Division II or JUCO in this total.
that's not the college ranks problem. college athletics should be primarily for getting an education. if they dont want to go to school, they shouldnt be in college. no exceptions. this is the fix to what college athletics is evolving into. put 100% of the college policing into academics. if they focus on the student athletes legitimately getting into college, taking legit course work and above board graduating in 5 years or less, that successful student will possess the character needed to fix the problem.
if the athlete is only there to play basketball and audition for the nba, they are a detriment to the real student athlete and their personal goals. i have no problem with great athletes going to college. but they need to do their job of being a real student first and foremost.
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13 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
The computer has already reviewed the situation .....
It selects....Schertz
He checks all the boxes.
my pick as well. as a father that visited terre haute a lot during my daughter's college days, to have the success he has with the city concerned, and with an mvc school with no sterling success since Larry Bird, this guy is it imo. add to it they play a pretty exciting brand of basketball schertz is the man.
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well that would be the end of my fanship. i thought when that day came i would be more upset. strangely i am pretty indifferent.