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soderball, slu is without a doubt a weak sister now. but this has not been an annual performance. so i wouldnt put us in that group. the answer to cutting the weak sisters has always been putting minimums on the programs. minimum athletic facilities, minimum athletic budgets with another budget just for basketball since it is pretty much the entire conference's bread and butter. there has to be a way to encourage these snobby "no care about the athletic department" presidents to step up. i do fear our own sheldon is right in line with the rest of them. but maybe if all programs understand they have to start spending some money and bringing the face of their program into the 21st century and try to actually win, maybe the A-10 can turn things around and those that wont comply would seek other alternatives.

agree. but please no more lesser teams. at least try to match what umass was. they were nothing great but i dont want some of the no doubt one bid conferences that never has and never will get an at large berth. i absolutely do not want to go to the mvc. i would likely turn in my slu affiliation for sure at that point. the conference going downhill has all to do with the worthless leadership of the conference. and honestly our milk toast president hasnt done anything to make it better.

i thought i read somewhere that both the suns and the nets were off the hook and goodwin was not going to get paid the original money for some reason. maybe i dreamt that. hope so. i am not happy about the 2-way deal, but at least he's still in the nba. i got a feeling he is down the bench or they would have given him a regular contract.

There's a reason this team sucks.

wish I been there for Wiz Day. i didnt know and chose to attend two of my Grandson's select games instead. Congratulations Wiz. What a day.

If college sports becomes purely professional im definitely done with the Billikens. If I want to watch pure professional basketball or football I'll go to NFL or NBA games where the best athletes play. Not a disguised minor league.

You see you're only concern is basketball. I care about saving the idea of real student athletes. It sickens me that academics is nearing elimination with athletics. I'm bordering on wishing we go to D3 if the direction of where D1 is headed doesn't excite me in the least.

old guy it isnt enough to give scholarships. there has to be a concerted effort of both the school and the student to excel and succeed in their academic pursuits. supplying a scholarship but then not enforcing actually completing a degree just passing through is a fail. that student shouldnt be in college. head to rankin and learn a trade. i am sure those institutes can provide a basketball and/or football experience but at least they have an outlet for a fallback career in case they do not make it to the detroit pistons roster.

that's not the college ranks problem. college athletics should be primarily for getting an education. if they dont want to go to school, they shouldnt be in college. no exceptions. this is the fix to what college athletics is evolving into. put 100% of the college policing into academics. if they focus on the student athletes legitimately getting into college, taking legit course work and above board graduating in 5 years or less, that successful student will possess the character needed to fix the problem. if the athlete is only there to play basketball and audition for the nba, they are a detriment to the real student athlete and their personal goals. i have no problem with great athletes going to college. but they need to do their job of being a real student first and foremost.

my pick as well. as a father that visited terre haute a lot during my daughter's college days, to have the success he has with the city concerned, and with an mvc school with no sterling success since Larry Bird, this guy is it imo. add to it they play a pretty exciting brand of basketball schertz is the man.

when its the largest contract in school history and it is one that will last for a decade or more, if they dont question it and blindly sign it they are definitely a party to the fail. for you to absolve them from doing their due diligence is nothing short of absurb.

i think ALL as in Ford, May the BoT, the boosters, all knew the effects that NiL was going to have. unfortunately, they also believed that the billiken fandom would forgive, forget and accept all their excuses and if a total fail (as in now) they could draw straws for the fall guy and we blindly would play the part of Kevin Bacon in Animal House and repeat over and over "all is well". we are the fall. the victims. the unwitting stooges. and judging by all the other times that the billiken fandom has faced this, (ekker time, the end of grawer, romar/soderberg, crewsplatt and ford tough) they will expect us to be the good little lemmings and fall in line and accept.

b.s. Some of the best contract attys and leaders in industry make up our BoT. Most of them are far more experienced in contracts than any line employee at SLU. It is likely one of the reasons they are on the BoT, And if that is wrong, they just inherited their success, they shouldnt be on the BoT, They shouldnt be let off the hook for their share of the blame.

hard to believe considering all that is going on to cheapen college sports and fall below the ethical line in the sand, they are concerned about snacks on a recruiting visit. college sports becomes more slimy every day.

if those voting blindly and were part of the fail by approving that contract, they should do the right thing and resign as they obviously are not on the board for the right reasons. for you to easily absolve them from any blame you should resign as the passionate fan you have always shown to be. again, plenty of blame to go around, i just dont think there needs to be one fall guy and the rest skate away with no scars.

so the BoT, which has a number of attys as members in fact is headed by a very renown and reputed excellent members of the ilk, bears no responsibility for interpretting this contract that we all think we know the details but likely do not? you are telling me they are incapable of reviewing and going back to change key aspects? May and the the agents negotiated what they believe was the best deal for all concerned and granted brought it to the BoT, but ultimately the BoT signed off on the final deal. plenty of blame for all.

i agree. i was only finishing your statement for those that were not full mbm's at that time. you made a great point just didnt finish it.

you are the one that wanted to convince me of a point using soccer as your point. i then countered you cannot convince me using that when i pay absolutely no attention to soccer and couldnt care less about soccer. now you know, dont use soccer in your debates with me. i wont play.

that never happened. he surrounded himself year after year with recruiters. ford was/is obviously so arrogant he thought/thinks he is a good floor/practice coach that can develop players.

if they are athletic enough to make it to the nba, there is no excuse for their bad defense or rebounding fundamentals. so i would argue they lack character to be an all around teamate.

since i dont follow any kind of soccer one bit i wouldnt know. i hate soccer. i think for children it is a nice activity to get exercise, beyond about 7th grade, go play a different sport. so no i faintly even know kaiish is a slu soccer coach and i only know that because of cross talk on this board when a talking head starts talking soccer on tv or radio, i will switch to something more important like law and order reruns or the latest episode of maine cabin masters.

first rule of middle management: you can argue as much as you want behind closed doors in private meetings and in the board room with the top management folks. but when you go outside those meetings, you are all in on the final decision and defend it like it was your decision. if you dont, your life with that organization is all but over.

sure bring in soccer to make your argument. i know absolutely nothing about soccer. well i know you cant use your hands. all i am saying on the endowment funds is look for solutions outside the box. if the funds are truly pledged of course they cannot access them. but if they are truly unrestricted, we can do anything we want with them. so if you are in the circle to know exactly the status of the endowment good for you. i find it hard to believe you are, but good for you that you have that insight. again, look for solutions outside the box.

if both ford and may go, i wont shed any tears, especially if the new selected coach can reinvigorate the atmosphere surrounding slu basketball. but i am only in the fire ford camp at this time. we all know the BoT wont fire themselves or the president. so of course the next best move is moving on from the next level or two. but honestly, i think the real blame is the tip top of the slu authority. they are the ones with the real authority has the combination to the safe and the relationships with boosters that can make a difference,

my information says ford being here this season had more to do with a couple of our biggest boosters fighting it out. may would have just been the front guy which is what he is paid to be.