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    1 hour ago, thetorch said:

    Really, name some.  Then name some of those university coaching staff who tweet about it.

    I'll hang up and listen.

    https://247sports.com/college/miami/article/nba-players-flocking-to-university-of-miami-to-work-out-39623837/

    Players quoted in the article stating how it's beneficial to have NBA players around. The coaching staff was supportive and Larranga is mentioned as well. And look at this quote "Although there are only two former Hurricanes currently in the NBA—James Jones (Cleveland) and Shane Larkin (Brooklyn)—there is a strong NBA presence within the program." Seems similar to what we're talking about at SLU; two guys in the NBA at the time (role players) and yet they still saw the value of having non-alum players come there to workout. Is Miami small-time? 

    https://www.dailynews.com/2022/09/09/jaime-jaquez-jr-paying-his-dues-at-ucla-pickup-games/

    Open runs with non-alum NBA guys have been going on at UCLA for years. UCLA players participate in them. STL obviously isn't LA, but I think it would undoubtedly be a good thing if SLU became a hub for local NBA players to get their work in with an opportunity for SLU players to join in. Beal and Tatum could be the start of that and there's no reason we should be discouraging them from coming here.

    I didn't go digging for specific tweets from coaching staffs like you requested, but there are obvious examples out there of coaching staffs supporting non-alum pros practicing at their schools publicly.

     

     

     

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  2. 13 hours ago, thetorch said:

    This isn't about caring about whther Tatum came here or not.  It is about a university and a program promoting their program using players that never played here.  Its weak.  This is far from the first time Ford's staff has done something like this with Beal and Tatum.

    The University or Program isn't promoting Tatum or Beal. A grad assistant (who is his own person) posted a video of two All-NBA guys practicing at his workplace. This is peak off-season controversy.

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  3. 8 hours ago, thetorch said:

    I like the idea of SLU being the place where the best St. Louis hoopers play at rather than workout after they play someplace else.

    If any other program in our conference did this I think we'd laugh at them. 

    NBA players workout at colleges they didn't attend all the time...

  4. 12 hours ago, thetorch said:

    Yesterday a tweet was made by a SLU Grad Asst on Ford's staff showing Jayson Tatum and Brad Beal performing drills at Simon Rec.  Goodwin was also there but noticeably not featured in the video.  The SLU grad asst typed in the location as  Saint Louis University.

    Let me know if you think I'm entirely off base on this but...

    Why are SLU staffers repping for NBA players who didn't play for SLU.  Why is it a big deal they are working out on our campus.  As a matter of fact why are they are on our campus?

    Because they are St. Louis guys?  They aren't Saint Louis guys though.  This isn't the first time our current staff has used Tatum and Beal in our social media.  Why are they doing this?  This is a bad look for our school and program.  Neither of these guys wanted to come to SLU and play.  They are all about STL, but never Saint Louis University.  

    For instance do you think Kyrie Irving works out at Rutgers and the staff there boasts about his presence?  He grew up a few miles from there?  Do you think Derrick Rose works out at DePaul when he goes home to Chicago and the Depaul staff is excited about his visit?  Kevin Durant grew up in Washington DC, just blocks from Georgetown.  You think the coaching staff there has Kevin Durant working out there?

    I don't really have a problem with them using the campus, but why is the staff hyping up some connection with them?  It seems really bush league.

    What does Tatum do for SLU?  Nothing.

    What does Beal do for SLU?  Nothing.  Beal runs the preeminent AAU team in STL.  Is he sending kids SLU's way. No.  Is he even helping St. Louis kids that much?  Check out the rosters of BBE Elite the last few years.  Always featuring kids from outside the area.  The old St. Louis Eagles would maybe take one guy a year from outside STL.  The past couple years most of BBEs roster have been from other states.  There are several area programs who are pushing STL kids only and playing at just as a high a level as BBE.  What are our connections there doing?  Can we get an out of state 5 star that Beal recruits to come play for SLU?  No way.  Again Beal does nothing for the program.  He has no obligation to do so either.  Frankly its in his best interests probably not to but why is the staff so star struck with his presence here.

    The bigger part of the insult is we have a real NBA player in Jordan Goodwin from our program.  Developed at SLU.  If we want to promote our NBA connections he should be front and center.  Not Beal and Tatum.  Who cares about them.  Beal has no connection to SLU whatsoever.  Tatum does but it didn't help when we were recruiting him.  Tatum gets treated like he actually played here.  Its silly.  

    I'm not saying bar them from campus.  Ford has always said he wants St. Louis University to be the destination for St. Louis basketball.  Repping guys who didn't come to play here is not the way to go.  We want St. Louis, actually we need St. Louis kids to play for SLU, not go to Duke and play pickup games here in the offseason.

    You’re making a big deal out of nothing. We’re talking about a Grad Assistant here,  not Ford himself or the official SLU account. And he didn’t even say anything about the players or try to tie it back to SLU basketball, all he did was share the video with the location. I have no issue with him posting about it, especially with Goodwin in the video. Frankly I think it’s dope to see guys with all-NBA selections playing on the same court that I used to play on, regardless of who posted about it. 
     

    Side note: do you really hold it against Tatum for not choosing to play for Jim Crews?

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