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Again, if you'd like a very simple way to vote multiple times, just PM me.

Got the Billiken back on top by a slight margin. Keep voting: http://collegecourtreport.com/award-season/mascot-mayhem/

The Billiken's lead is down to 51% keep voting. PM me if you'd like to know a way to vote as many times as you want.

Not sure if this is already a joke, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Stu to report on anything SLU related.

On to the 3rd round: The Billiken knocked off Sebastian and is up against fellow Cinderella story #14 Super Frog (TCU) in the sweet sixteen. Continue voting. http://collegecourtreport.com/award-season/mascot-mayhem/

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Althoff bias?

Yeah. It's not really worth much discussion, but it is interesting since Crews & Co were at Peach Jam seemingly watching Tatum until the very end. Obviously, they would have been at Peach Jam anyways, so who knows.

Exactly. As the poster who made the post about Kevin not being a "winner", I'm going to vote that we drop this. I didn't mean my post as a shot at Kevin although many seem to be taking it that way. It seems to be a personal preference about how you define "winner". No one on this board can argue that Kevin is among the all-time greats at SLU just as no one can argue that his SLU teams were winners. We've got these open practices to discuss, the Bahamas trip coming up, lots of interesting stuff happening with recruits, etc. Breaking down each poster's personal definition of "winner" is far less interesting.

And he's got an offer now as well: Seems that the local "Big 3" Watson, Ramey, Gordon all have offers now. That would be a huge coup if SLU could land them.

As expected Goodwin got offered:

white + big man + outside game + west St. Louis Co. recruit = Tyler Griffey?

I should have known this would cause a sh*t storm. As I said, not saying Kevin isn't any of the things you are saying, I just can't call him a "winner" because he didn't win anything (while at SLU). I don't want to de-rail the thread, so let's just leave it there. I will say that sometimes I forget that Kevin was a part of the team that played at GW game because it is hard to believe a player of his caliber could be a part of that awfulness.

SLU's record during Kevin's career was 70 - 55. His teams never won anything of significance nor participated in a post-season tournament. His teams suffered several embarrassing losses such as Texas A&M 33-69 in 2006 and the dreaded GW game. Very hard to argue SLU put up much of a "fight" in those games. His 2006-07 team was (rightly or wrongly) expected to make a postseason tournament and didn't largely because of crippling losses to terrible St. Bonaventure & Duquense teams to open the conference season. For comparisons sake, SLU's record during Loe, Evans, McCall, & Jett's careers was 93 - 41. Kevin was a very good player for SLU perhaps great by SLU standards. Reportedly, he is a great person as well. Though largely not his fault, his teams were pretty mediocre. There are a number of superlatives you could use to describe Kevin & his SLU career (tough, competitive(?), lights out shooter, gutty). However, "winner" is not one of them.

I'm not a huge McKernan fan, but this tweet pretty much says it all about Brian & his Billiken coverage

I think there may be some value to waiting to offer until you get the kid to visit (especially for in town recruits who can fairly easily take an unofficial visit). By waiting to offer until the prospect shows a bit of interest in the school (visiting), you limit your offers to realistic targets and don't waste time chasing after guys who have no interest in SLU besides adding to their offer count.

Congrats to Brian! Very good for him, but I have a feeling it is going to be a big loss for us in terms of Billikens coverage. We're basically left with Stu now (who hasn't even tweeted about open practices, let alone done anything for StlToday about them).

Bernie's replacement appears to be a guy from the Denver Post named Benjamin Hochman He is a Mizzou alum...

Here are some #s for you: From fellow MBM thetorch in the 2016 recruiting thread: Not exactly glowing, but it seems like there's something to work with there. This is probably the best we have to go on.

I think a lot of the recruiting chatter is crap and most certainly incomplete in terms of which players SLU is looking at. I'm not going to read much into the timing of when a recruit hits our radar vs when he commits. We have very little / no idea of how long SLU has been going after him.

It was demonstrated in another thread that it takes a much longer run of success than 3 years (and 3 total wins in the NCAAs) to jump up a recruiting level. Another complicating factor for SLU is that they lost their coach during their successful run as well. Heck, Butler went to two straight national title games, moved to the Big East, and they were/are still largely recruiting 3 star guys. I also just want to point out that star ratings mean very little. I'd assume give him a chance before writing him off.

SLU has always been getting commitments from 2 or 3 star guys. This isn't a fall at all and certainly not a "fallen so far..."