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Memphis & Saint Louis - the TWO most under-seeded teams....


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We got such a bad draw that it's just stupid. So the committee doesn't like the RPI that much anymore? You'd think they'd look more at this and Sagarin and instead of the stupid "eye test"...

(actual seed next to final pomeroy rankings)...

2012 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings

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Data through games of Tuesday, March 13 Strength of Schedule NCSOS Rank Team Conf W-L Pyth AdjO AdjD AdjT Luck Pyth OppO OppD Pyth Strength of Schedule NCSOS Rank Team Conf W-L Pyth AdjO AdjD AdjT Luck Pyth OppO OppD Pyth 1 Kentucky 1 SEC 32-2 .9663 120.9 3 87.1 6 65.7 191 +.025 109 .6665 45 104.7 41 97.9 39 .5178 148 2 Ohio St. 2 B10 27-7 .9662 117.0 7 84.4 1 67.9 84 -.053 294 .7312 7 107.6 5 97.5 26 .4397 231 3 Michigan St. 1 B10 27-7 .9618 116.5 11 85.0 3 65.6 197 -.037 255 .7537 2 107.3 6 96.2 3 .4924 181 4 Kansas 2 B12 27-6 .9507 117.0 8 87.7 8 67.7 95 +.010 149 .7337 6 105.8 19 95.8 1 .6202 48 5 North Carolina 1 ACC 29-5 .9425 116.4 12 88.6 13 72.2 9 +.014 137 .6844 29 105.4 34 97.7 30 .5802 82 6 Wisconsin 4 B10 24-9 .9401 112.4 24 85.9 4 58.9 344 -.010 200 .7147 13 106.2 14 97.1 14 .4201 255 7 Missouri 2 B12 30-4 .9384 125.5 1 96.2 76 66.3 151 +.033 91 .6554 48 104.4 51 98.1 46 .3526 312 8 Syracuse 1 BE 31-2 .9384 116.1 14 89.0 15 65.9 183 +.064 35 .6694 43 104.8 38 97.9 37 .4583 214 9 Memphis 8 CUSA 26-8 .9327 114.3 19 88.5 11 68.3 69 -.056 300 .6362 60 103.5 69 98.0 43 .6710 23 10 Wichita St. 5 MVC 27-5 .9297 116.5 10 90.6 19 67.0 123 -.001 178 .5909 89 103.0 84 99.4 98 .5857 76 11 Indiana 4 B10 25-8 .9219 120.1 4 94.4 60 67.5 105 +.001 171 .7070 19 105.7 21 97.0 13 .4078 273 12 Georgetown 3 BE 23-8 .9112 109.7 49 87.4 7 63.3 293 +.001 172 .6993 23 105.5 32 97.1 15 .5312 129 13 New Mexico 5 MWC 27-6 .9107 111.1 32 88.5 12 66.7 137 +.012 143 .5537 117 102.1 125 99.9 120 .3874 293 14 Baylor 3 B12 27-7 .9076 116.0 15 92.8 32 66.5 144 +.057 44 .7096 16 106.2 13 97.3 22 .4084 271 15 St. Louis 9 A10 25-7 .9073 110.5 36 88.5 10 62.8 303 -.051 286 .5859 95 102.9 92 99.4 99 .4399 229 16 Vanderbilt 5 SEC 24-10 .9030 115.0 16 92.5 31 65.6 199 -.041 265 .6966 24 106.0 17 97.7 31 .5665 96 17 Duke 2 ACC 27-6 .8969 117.0 9 94.7 62 67.6 100 +.072 25 .7342 5 106.6 9 96.5 8 .7221 14 18 Marquette 3 BE 25-7 .8944 112.2 26 91.1 21 71.4 15 +.048 63 .6911 26 104.4 50 96.5 7 .4964 176 19 Florida 7 SEC 23-10 .8911 120.9 2 98.5 119 64.9 234 -.035 252 .6849 28 104.1 62 96.5 6 .5122 157 20 Louisville 4 BE 26-9 .8862 103.6 124 84.8 2 67.6 99 +.021 121 .7056 20 106.0 16 97.3 20 .5200 143 21 Florida St. 3 ACC 24-9 .8824 107.9 63 88.6 14 67.7 98 +.039 79 .7087 18 105.8 18 97.0 12 .5748 88 22 Kansas St. 8 B12 21-10 .8803 109.7 47 90.3 18 67.2 114 -.037 257 .6899 27 105.2 36 97.3 21 .4117 266 23 Belmont 14 ASun 27-7 .8755 116.4 13 96.2 77 68.4 67 -.018 214 .4838 162 101.5 147 102.1 190 .6143 53 24 Purdue 10 B10 21-12 .8721 117.3 6 97.3 96 65.5 202 -.000 174 .7138 14 106.9 7 97.8 35 .4376 233 25 Michigan 4 B10 24-9 .8709 113.3 21 94.1 49 61.4 326 +.070 28 .7592 1 107.8 1 96.3 5 .4904 184 26 Virginia 10 ACC 22-9 .8701 104.8 105 87.0 5 60.4 339 -.044 269 .5910 88 102.8 96 99.1 89 .3550 309 27 California 12 P12 24-9 .8666 109.8 45 91.5 23 67.2 116 -.002 179 .5846 98 102.7 99 99.3 97 .4796 197 28 Texas 11 B12 20-13 .8633 112.3 25 93.8 46 66.0 172 -.057 302 .7198 11 106.7 8 97.3 18 .4946 179 29 Iowa St. 8 B12 22-10 .8564 111.8 31 93.9 48 67.3 111 -.010 198 .6785 34 105.4 33 98.0 44 .4084 272 30 Alabama 9 SEC 21-11 .8545 104.5 108 87.9 9 63.4 289 -.051 288 .6811 32 105.7 22 98.2 53 .6145 52 31 Cincinnati 6 BE 24-10 .8506 109.5 51 92.4 29 63.7 281 +.012 142 .6247 63 103.0 87 98.0 42 .2816 338 32 Gonzaga 7 WCC 25-6 .8496 110.0 43 92.9 33 65.9 181 -.009 192 .5189 140 102.5 107 101.8 180 .5277 133 33 Nevada Las Vegas 6 MWC 26-8 .8443 108.9 58 92.3 28 69.7 30 +.020 122 .6130 74 103.3 73 98.8 74 .5134 155 34 Temple 5 A10 24-7 .8325 113.5 20 97.1 93 67.0 126 +.045 69 .6702 42 105.5 29 98.5 64 .6809 20 35 Creighton 8 MVC 28-5 .8317 119.1 5 101.9 182 67.0 122 +.074 22 .5688 108 102.4 111 99.6 110 .4828 188 36 Long Beach St. 12 BW 25-8 .8308 109.0 56 93.3 38 67.3 110 -.038 259 .5288 133 102.3 114 101.2 162 .8298 2 37 Connecticut 9 BE 20-13 .8307 110.1 40 94.3 55 63.9 276 -.033 250 .7093 17 105.8 20 96.9 11 .5075 165 38 Miami FL ACC 19-12 .8294 110.7 34 94.9 64 64.8 242 -.045 272 .6720 36 104.3 52 97.3 19 .5544 105 39 Harvard 12 Ivy 26-4 .8256 107.3 72 92.2 25 61.2 329 +.033 90 .4769 173 99.4 256 100.3 125 .5287 132 40 Drexel CAA 27-6 .8200 108.4 59 93.5 43 61.0 333 +.036 86 .4492 198 98.8 279 100.8 148 .4573 215 41 Notre Dame 7 BE 22-11 .8165 109.4 52 94.6 61 61.3 327 +.046 66 .6641 46 104.5 48 97.7 33 .4347 236 42 West Virginia 10 BE 19-13 .8138 110.6 35 95.7 71 64.9 228 -.028 238 .6950 25 105.5 31 97.3 23 .5450 116 43 North Carolina St. 11 ACC 22-12 .8133 110.9 33 96.1 73 68.1 80 -.002 181 .6548 50 104.3 56 98.0 41 .5620 100 44 St. Mary's 7 WCC 27-5 .8121 112.5 23 97.5 100 64.0 271 +.054 49 .4739 179 101.7 141 102.7 231 .4265 250 45 UCLA P12 19-14 .8087 107.1 77 93.0 35 65.9 177 -.073 324 .6021 79 102.4 109 98.4 58 .5088 163 46 Arizona P12 23-11 .8055 107.5 71 93.5 44 65.6 196 -.051 289 .5885 94 103.1 81 99.6 107 .5198 145 47 Virginia Commonwealth 12 CAA 28-6 .8053 106.0 91 92.3 27 66.4 148 +.034 89 .4956 153 99.3 261 99.5 100 .5558 103 48 Brigham Young 14 WCC 26-8 .7993 104.6 107 91.4 22 73.4 5 +.021 120 .5028 149 102.8 97 102.6 223 .5046 173 49 Murray St. 6 OVC 30-1 .7989 107.7 66 94.1 52 66.0 171 +.039 78 .4012 262 100.1 210 104.1 293 .6124 57 50 Stanford P12 22-11 .7974 105.1 100 92.0 24 67.5 106 -.031 249 .5590 115 102.1 123 99.8 115 .4168 261 51 St. Bonaventure 14 A10 20-11 .7941 110.4 38 96.8 87 64.2 262 -.010 196 .5897 91 103.4 71 99.8 116 .4956 178 52 Oregon P12 23-9 .7921 113.2 22 99.4 140 67.7 96 +.052 53 .5839 99 101.7 142 98.4 59 .4607 212 53 Seton Hall BE 21-12 .7911 105.0 101 92.2 26 66.0 175 +.010 148 .6470 55 104.3 53 98.3 56 .4198 258 54 San Diego St. 6 MWC 26-7 .7894 106.2 87 93.4 42 66.7 138 +.057 45 .5890 92 103.1 82 99.5 105 .4157 264 55 La Salle A10 21-12 .7828 106.9 79 94.4 57 68.6 56 -.093 335 .5590 114 102.8 93 100.5 133 .3941 287 56 Minnesota B10 19-14 .7825 108.2 61 95.5 70 63.9 275 -.017 212 .6997 22 106.3 11 97.9 40 .3749 299 57 South Dakota St. 14 Sum 27-7 .7821 112.0 27 98.9 125 65.7 190 +.041 76 .4314 220 100.9 175 103.6 278 .5396 120 58 Xavier 10 A10 21-12 .7794 107.2 74 94.8 63 67.6 101 +.032 94 .6819 30 105.7 23 98.1 50 .6308 44 59 Tennessee SEC 19-14 .7779 105.5 96 93.3 40 65.3 206 -.031 247 .6704 40 105.5 30 98.4 61 .5055 172 60 Iona 14 MAAC 25-8 .7766 114.7 18 101.5 176 70.7 21 -.010 194 .4884 157 101.0 168 101.5 169 .6564 29 61 Middle Tennessee SB 26-6 .7759 106.5 85 94.3 56 66.3 153 +.001 170 .4806 167 101.1 167 101.8 183 .6048 61 62 Northwestern B10 19-13 .7750 115.0 17 101.9 184 63.4 291 +.047 65 .7208 10 106.2 12 96.8 10 .4718 204 63 New Mexico St. 13 WAC 26-9 .7716 107.6 69 95.5 69 70.9 19 -.045 271 .4683 184 101.4 150 102.6 222 .4800 195 64 Washington P12 22-10 .7712 108.2 62 96.1 74 70.0 29 +.037 84 .6009 81 103.3 74 99.2 92 .5200 144 65 Saint Joseph's A10 20-13 .7680 109.7 46 97.6 105 65.8 187 -.040 264 .6425 56 104.7 40 98.9 77 .5932 71 66 South Florida 12 BE 20-13 .7645 100.2 177 89.3 16 59.8 342 +.048 60 .7020 21 105.6 25 97.2 16 .5598 101 67 Dayton A10 20-13 .7628 111.9 30 99.8 147 65.2 213 -.015 208 .6192 69 103.3 72 98.6 65 .5334 126 68 Davidson 13 SC 25-7 .7612 110.5 37 98.7 122 68.1 79 +.019 124 .4376 211 100.2 205 102.7 227 .7336 10 69 Georgia St. CAA 22-11 .7540 100.7 172 90.3 17 64.9 223 -.064 311 .4040 259 99.3 257 103.2 250 .2986 334 70 Illinois B10 17-15 .7478 103.8 120 93.3 41 65.4 205 -.007 190 .7236 9 107.7 2 98.1 48 .4591 213 71 Ohio 13 MAC 27-7 .7448 104.2 114 93.8 47 67.2 115 +.021 118 .4626 190 100.9 176 102.4 207 .4089 270 72 Wyoming MWC 20-11 .7445 101.1 167 91.0 20 60.4 338 -.056 298 .5231 137 102.1 122 101.2 163 .2905 336 73 Clemson ACC 16-15 .7440 104.4 111 94.1 50 64.4 257 -.107 343 .5743 106 101.6 143 98.7 72 .3673 304 74 Southern Mississippi 9 CUSA 25-8 .7420 109.6 50 98.9 126 64.9 226 +.051 56 .6189 70 103.2 77 98.4 63 .5496 113 75 Colorado 11 P12 23-11 .7404 103.3 129 93.3 37 65.5 201 +.075 21 .6208 68 103.5 68 98.7 68 .5299 130 76 Colorado St. 11 MWC 20-11 .7323 111.9 28 101.5 174 64.7 246 +.077 20 .6308 62 103.4 70 98.1 49 .5348 124 77 Marshall CUSA 21-14 .7315 109.1 53 98.9 127 66.2 164 +.025 110 .6706 39 104.8 39 97.8 34 .6435 37 78 Akron MAC 22-12 .7303 106.6 83 96.8 88 67.4 108 -.020 219 .5465 120 102.6 103 100.8 146 .5907 73 79 Pittsburgh BE 17-16 .7280 110.0 41 100.0 149 63.8 280 -.052 293 .6709 37 104.6 43 97.6 27 .4271 248 80 Princeton Ivy 20-11 .7273 107.5 70 97.6 104 64.0 272 -.031 245 .5249 135 101.0 169 100.0 122 .6008 66

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considering all the history we have with Louisville, Cincy, Marquette and even Houston...the Big East is a natural fit for the Tigers.

What your history with the Billikens? You should have joined the A-10, because after UL and Cincy leave for the Big 12, the non hoops schools will start a new conference, and you're gonna be playing in a conference that's weaker than CUSA in hoops.

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What your history with the Billikens? You should have joined the A-10, because after UL and Cincy leave for the Big 12, the non hoops schools will start a new conference, and you're gonna be playing in a conference that's weaker than CUSA in hoops.

with the B12's looming TV deal it looks like they won't be expanding...why split 2.5 billion 2 more ways?

http://aol.sportingn...-tv-rights-deal

"...the new media revenue could effectively end any discussion of the Big 12 expanding back to 12 teams, not news that Louisville wanted to hear."

Memphis plays football, so for Memphis, a basketball first conference with BCS money is VERY appealing.

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