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>Great News! Does anyone know if the Tennis facility is >moving somewhere else. Are there plans to build a new one? There is no plans to build a new tennis facility. The teams most likely will be back at Forest Park or Sunset!

I think we should just deal with reality. This is an independant source. This might be a wake up call for all the koolaide drinkers.

Not your son!! But your quick defense on Roy lately is a little scary.

>hmmm i went to the tigerboard and did a poster search for >"vtime". imagine this. someone is posting a ton on that >board with your moniker saying stuff like we (as in >mi$$ouri) needs to sign powell. and posts starting with >"our (as in mi$$ouri) returning best player marshall brown", >etc. > >that is horrible that someone that is such an obvious tiger >fan is using your moniker. Hmmm, Imagine this old middle age man with no life patrols message boards all day. Really Roy, get a life.

>In looking back through some of the posts, which is actually >pretty interesting, it does seem that the majority of the >attacks on the MAIN BOARD come from Billiphan/Billsboy >against the same people that he/they argued with on the >Offseason board. However, it certainly is not just one >time. For some entertaining, but pathetic reading when put >in context, see below. > >There were plenty of other attacks, going both ways, >that clearly stem from politics. If you do not believe me, >just randomly look through the archives. It is fun to go >back and see some of the good comments so it is not a waste >of time, especially since the board is slow anyway. By the >way, this is not a knee-jerk reaction; the excerpts from >below go back over a year! > >The thing is that I do not post very much, but I read the >board regularly. I just get tired of wading through the BS >that seems, based on content, to stem from PAST political >disagreements (e.g. Billiphan constantly calls anyone who is >conservative the "moral police" of the board). >Additionally, one reason I do not post much is because I >seem to get attacked too often when I do post. I once >posted that I was proud of the Billikens or a player and >Billiphan just unloaded on me!!!! It had NOTHING to do with >the post that I wrote, he just hates my political views >(which he barely knows in the first place). I would pretty >much bet my net worth that Billiphan/Billsboy will rip on me >on this post too. It just gets old. > >If we bring the Offseason board back in the midst of an >election year, I think it will get very ugly on both boards. > Just my opinion based on reading the archives. > >For what it is worth, I did notice that virtually all of >your posts are good posts that are basketball related. Not >sure why you would have it out for me other than the >political thing, but I will just live with it. > >Here is the fun reading part.... > >"zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Boring. Wake me up when this guys self >important babble ends. I HATE ROY" > >Billiphan responding to slufanskip > >"I know John and his wife pretty well, and for a mortgage >guy who is notorious for over charging people with hidden >fees and points, should not refer to people they don't know >scum. Get a clue RoY!" > >Billsboy responding to Roy > >"How pious of you....Thank you Anal Bomb for another >enlightening post. I HATE ROY" > >Billiphan to ABomb > >"Well done Ace. Rich do everyone a favor and quit this >thread. Ace is making you like a bigger idiot than even you >make yourself look like. I HATE ROY" > >Billiphan commenting on Rich > >"A couple of weeks ago you were up in arms because Ching >made the world cup team. He played very solid tonight and >scored. But what do I know, a car salesman and a loan >officer know more than everyone!" > >Billsboy starting a thread titled "Just for (slufan)Skip" > >"Oh dear, what will we do? The great Roy is returing to >exile. How will the board manage without him? Could the >stupid comments and arguments have possibly come from Roy? I >guess he'll grace our presence again with he has some more >rumors to spread about another recruit. What a pompous, >hypocritcal jerk. Good riddance Roy. Don't come back." > >Billiphan responding to Roy > >"Let roy sulk in his little office in Belleville. Who really >cares. Maybe he is realizing that the glorious world under >Georgie Bush isn't so glorious after all." > >Billsboy commenting on Roy > >"It's actually a "low life" car lot owner. You were partly >right. You should redo your screen name to I wish I was >billsboys because your jealousy for my life and my daughters >career is sad. You are so predictable it makes it easy. >Skip, it's ok!! Your mom still loves you." > >Billsboy to Slufanskip > >"The only problem with that statement is that you have to >look at the people making the comments. They all stem from >the far right wing, pro Bush arguments we used to have on >the off season board. As we all know I was pretty much right >on the money with those arguements." > >Billsboy just babbling on and on at this point about >Slufanskip/Rich. > >"Skip, sorry but you are pathetic!" > >More Billsboy obsessing on Slufanskip...again. > >"Go back to your hole Goat." > >Billiphan turning on Goaty > >"Just "ignor" Bauman. He's a jacka*s. Right Bauman? You and >me know what I'm talking about. I'm sure you'll pretend it >never happened. Just "ignor" the post." > >Billiphan taunting Bauman > >"How about we make a list of everytime Roy Mueller is a >Jackass. Starting today, we're on number 382 for the year. >Keep it up." > >Billiphan going after Roy...attack number >9,445,588,564,564,978,892 > >"I'm just going to "ignor" you. Remember when we debated >last time and you went running scared into the night. You're >not worth the panties you slip into every morning." > >Billiphan back on Bauman > >"Time for your diaper change old man and then it's off to >bed. It's getting late. It's almost 4:00. I HATE ROY" > >Billiphan showing his respect for SLU72 > >"Welcome to the board. Roy and Billiken Rich(Bdick) are >angry, sad men. .... Roy can't appreciate the >accomplishments of St. Louis kids doing well. F Roy. He's >not even from St. Louis. > >Billiphan commenting on Roy > >"Obviously you are an idiot!!!!!! Roy, Rich and Skips >obsession" > >Billsboy...again > >"You're chastising me about civil conduct? I should have >included you under the hypocrisy banner. I'm sure all the AA >members enjoy you making light of their struggle. You're a >real ahole." > >Billiphan to Skip > >"So why do you four and the rest of the Hitler youth that >are so bent out of shape on this issue keep ignoring the >facts?" > >Billiphan to "Skip, 3 Star, Cheeseman, SLU72 = Morality >Police" and Roy > >"You are bigger freaking ***** than I thought. Go back in >your hole. >I HATE ROY" > >Billiphan to BRich You must have absolutely no life to post that post. Secondly, you left out all the posts that went back and forth from Roy, Skip, And Whipping boy. Once again you prove my point. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>Billsboy/Billiphan have just confirmed the reason to NOT >bring back the Offseason board just as I expected they >would. > >It always descends into name calling because of the way you >two (or is it one?) feel about certain individuals' >political beliefs. That is why the Offseason board is a bad >idea. > >I cannot understand how others cannot see how the Offseason >board impacts the regular board. The responses above should >be proof enough. You and Roy must talk. You make a statement and then accuse others and then come back and blame. Roy did the same last week. He called some posters on the board the 3 stooges than went on to complain about the name calling. Some of you are priceless. Just because you support the worst administaration ever makes no difference to me. But don't come on the board claiming the higher ground when you are just as low as anyone else. Thank You for proving my point.

>For those of you who do not think that the nastiness from >the other board pours over to this board, let me give you a >FACT. About a year or so ago, I posted on the MAIN board >about an issue involving the media's reporting of the >Billikens. I was in err on what I posted. Several posters >pointed out my error in a civil and polite manner, the same >way you might correct a friend who had misspoke. >Then...there was Billiphan, a poster that I had never seen >before. His post included the phrase "crawl back under your >rock". I have never forgotten the abusive treatment that I >suffered at the hands of this infrequent poster ON THE >MAIN BASKETBALL ORIENTED BOARD. However, I could not >figure out why I was being attacked. Well, fast forward a >month or so and Billiphan began attacking a LOT of us with >whom he did not agree politically on the Offseason Board. >The attacks continued on BOTH BOARDS. The reality was now >clear. > >If you do not think that politically motivated attacks take >place on the basketball board you are either misinformed or >in denial. That is NOT an opinion, it is a demonstrable >fact. The archives will clearly and unamiguously bear this >out. > >I think that Steve, if he is honest, can also attest to >this. He put in place the "For the Time Being..." thread >several hours after ACE attacked me on the main board >calling me a "rabid dog". The postings are archived in more >than one place. I know that Steve specifically responded to >ACE saying the he was "not at all" the reason for the >change, but I respectfully challenge this assertion using >the PRIVATE and public factual dialogue that took >place regarding this as evidence. I will respectfully defer >to Steve for any comment in the event that anyone challenges >this assertion. > >Here is the bottom line: Let's keep this board 100% >Billiken Basketball. NO politics. It just inflames the >discussion. I have tried to reach out to those who disagree >politically (offered to send the private messages, offered >to buy them a beer if they stopped by my seats, etc), and >more often than not, they just ignored my offerings and kept >attacking (brehms was a rare and classy exception to this >seeming truism). > >I DO NOT WANT TO DISCUSS POLITICS on this board. Some have >suggested that the desire to avoid political discussion >relates to the inaccurate perception that some >conservatively minded individuals just do not want to >discuss politics because OTHERS perceive, however >inaccurately, that the conservative cause is suffering. >This is not accurate. Yes, I still 100% support Bush and I >still believe 100% in what he is doing so I am not trying to >avoid any issues, I just do not think that this is the venue >for the discussion because it ABSOLUTELY, UNDENIABLY >DOES CARRY OVER TO THE MAIN BOARD. >PERIOD. I wish it didn't, but it does. Just because >you do not READ the Offseason Board doesn't mean that you >can escape the political vitriol that carries over to the >main board. Again, that is FACT, not opinion. > >Now, if Steve or David or Terrence want to police every >comment and spend innumberable hours babysitting all of us, >then, fine, bring back the Offseason board, but if you want >to keep the discussion to Billiken Basketball, DO NOT!!!!! > >Alternatively, maybe the solution is a separate >Billikens site that focuses ONLY on Basketball like previous >sites. Then, this current site can be about a lot of >things, including Billiken Basketball and politics. >But those who want to avoid the political backbiting, can >just go to the other site. Alumni, Nice try!! That was such a coward post. You claim you don't want to talk about politics and then you state your loyalties. It was pretty pathetic.

>my vote didnt count either. and i totally echo >billikenbooster's thoughts. and i too believe the quality >of the main board reached it's nastiest low about the time >Steve pulled the plug on that board and started enforcing >billiken talk more. since then the quality of the main >board has gradually been getting better. > >dont bring it back here. go to the sports lounge for >offseason talk. Roy, if I were you I would say that too. Seems like you are cutting and running!!!

I find it ironic Roy is talking about the 3 stooges. I guess he has not seen his own picture on his mortgage website. Secondly, I have been on vacation and because I have a life and don't need to break posting records on this board, I don't need to post everyday. Lastly, the topics of Ian coming back, brad not recruiting, and what area prospects were not going to get run at nausium, posting is not something that I find interesting. Don't most MAJOR schools talk about football now. Oh yeah, SLU does not play the biggest sport in college athletics.

>even stranger, the biggest part of the giveaway will go to >the bill gates' foundation. yeah that makes sense. gates >needs it. Once again ROY!! A statement without much thought! Thanks for being consistent.

>>Halliburton is a huge company. The guilty parties have been >>indicted in this case. Enron was a much bigger scandle >>involving the people actully running the company. If that >>comes to pass with haliburton, call me. I'll call them out >>then too. > >Rich, how many times do I have to call you? I already had to >call you once. Follow the thread. I never said one scandal >was bigger than the other. You took issue with my statement >that Halliburton was an example of corporate greed and >immorality. Ripping off more than $100 million from the >taxpayers I think supports that classification. I can hear Whipping Boy back pedalling as the day goes on. Good job ACE!

I am convinced billikinguest is Biondi.

>you never saw tabb play in high school did you? SO! You never even played High School ball. And to your comments last week about Calipari were laughable calling him a scum. I know John and his wife pretty well, and for a mortgage guy who is notorious for over charging people with hidden fees and points, should not refer to people they don't know scum. Get a clue RoY!

>I whole-heartedly disagree with all of the negativity >towards this woman. She was always extremely helpful and >nice to me over this past year that I interacted with her >and I never once had a problem with her. I did hear one >complaint from one office in the AD, but their complaint was >selfish and I didn't pay much attention to it. > >I was actually sad to see that she resigned. She is a cool >lady and I only have good hopes for her in the future. Blue crew, Let me guess that you are a women and had limited contact with lori? That might explain why you had a favorable impression of Lori.

The wicked witch is gone. Thank God! She was one of the most hated people in the department. She favored certain coaches and treated others like dog crap. I think this is a great move for the department. She will not be missed at all. Neither will her mood swings!

>A source close to the administration mentioned that the >coaches, staff, and administration in West Pine raised over >$12,000.00 in the last ten days, with 100% participation. > >If this is true, Larry should be happy that he still retains >his milking skills. This was an issue about 2 weeks ago. We all know the employees were forced to give. Secondly, the coaching staff is now out soliciting naming rights to offices in the new building. I am glad to see all the underpaid coaches and staff are responsible for paying for the new arena. Staff morale is really low and it seems that coaches are being put in uncomfortable positions to raise money for the arena. They already have fundraising responsibilites to the programs. Enough is enough.

>Easily the signing I am much pleased about. > >http://slubillikens.cstv.com/sports/m-socc.../053006aab.html Another solid recruit!!

>How can he effectively recruit when he only has a handful of >scholarships to spread around a full roster? Has this >changed in recent years? NO!! This was a nice little run for the baseball team. It surely saved some jobs this year. Let's not forget the A-10 is one of the weakest baseball conferences in America. Luckily if bob can just survive, he can easily stay in the top 3 of the conference year in and year out.

A couple of weeks ago you were up in arms because Ching made the world cup team. He played very solid tonight and scored. But what do I know, a car salesman and a loan officer know more than everyone!

Don't rip Lo Ro. Not only is he a great coach but a great man. Romar did a lot while he was here. He had SLU in the homes of kids that never had even heard of the school. He had some commitments, Hollins and Kern. I can remember Lo Ro introducing me to Salim Stoudamire and his mother on a visit. When you recruit the top kids you miss on alot of kids but if you get 1, that could lead to big things. I think we all remember Larry. Lorenzo knew if he kept going after the top kids he was going to start winning the recruiting wars. IMHO Romar is light years ahead of Brad with the recruiting. Remember Romar was recruiting Tommie while he was here and many felt that he would have had an earlier commitment from him if Romar had stayed. Lorenzo has a top 20 program now, so lets not try to compare brad and lorenzo, it's not really close.

>I think that is pretty standard in business. It's a courtesy >to the employee as well as the institution. Unless there is >a MAJOR scandal, details of most firings are kept under >wraps. Just to give you an example, a department that I work >closely with just released about 10 people. I have >information as to why they were fired. But the official word >was that "these people are no longer employeed by >Vanderbilt". It's better for everybody that way. Nashville, I would have no problem with that. I agree you don't need to go into details about someone being fired. My problem is this bs of people getting fired then telling everyone they are leaving to pursue other jobs or wanted to leave to spend time with families.

>so let's assume all three of these coaches indeed got fired. > in your infinite highly qualfied wisdom, why should they >have not been fired? > >as to not getting your resume, fine, but then dont throw >your supposed credentials around. anyone can say they run >ibm or killed jimmy hoffa or even played and coached >division one basketball and call themselves "billsboys". Once again you are missing the point. I could care less if people are fired or not. CL's job is her job. I have a problem with this crap of people being fired then telling everyone they want to spend time with their families. All you have to do is say they are going in a different direction. Why the lies??

>we are recruiting the second highest point guard in chicago >as well. that was posted last week. that is one. > >now if you mean there are 15 local point guards in the >immediate st louis area that is being more highly recruited >that will be a senior next year, please list them for me so >i can start following them. i enjoy watching good local >players as well! Roy, I think it's time for the self imposed vacation again. You take a few day's off and now your back posting more than ever!! Also, I seem to be involved in a lot of your posts. Your obsession with me is scary.

> Well Damn ... we do agree on something ... at least >partially. I agree he deserves this season ... I just don't >like the but if it doesn't work out your fired thing hanging >over a coaches head. If you aren't firing him then support >him ... If you decide to fire him next year ... then fire >him ... all the what if's are just that what if's. What if >he makes the tourney this year ... how much time does that >buy him? What if he makes the 2nd round, does that buy an >extra year? What if he makes 3 years in a row ... how many >years then? > > > Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. >Waldman and loyal subject of Billsboy and all ex D1 players >and coaches everywhere. You da man Billsboy Skip, thanks for the pub on all your posts. This posts talks about Sods getting fired, don't you mean to say he want's to spend more time with his family.

This is the third coach in the last couple of months, that Sports Info has spun their departure. I can assure you Jim Molloy was fired. I don't know why they continue to do this. If they come out and said that the coach was let go then I think we would all understand. I don't like the way we are spinning departures. When someone does decide to leave on their own, there will always be that doubt now. I don't like this policy set forth. But according to Roy and his band of brothers I don't know anything because I don't send them my resume and contact info. By the way guy's, your not going to get it!